Re: [External] Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Hunter Fuller via NANOG
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:03 PM Saku Ytti wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:53, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE < > l...@6by7.net> wrote: > > Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades? >> > > I would advise against this, OPEX nightmare. Who will NOC call when it is > down? What will they say

Re: Malicious SS7 activity and why SMS should never by used for 2FA

2021-04-20 Thread bzs
Something which binds them together are their insurance underwriters who generally want to set minimum requirements without having to review home-brewed security schemes. They want buzzwords and acronyms to put onto checklists. Others would be courts (e.g., when lawsuits arise) and government

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Saku Ytti
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:53, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE < l...@6by7.net> wrote: Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades? > I would advise against this, OPEX nightmare. Who will NOC call when it is down? What will they say to the other end to identify the circuit? When will it get fixed?

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* band support, where the directional antenna is pointing, etc. cellmapper.com has a good map of tower locations, sector coverage, etc. If you have an Android device, you can contribute to the crowd-sourcing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Robert Blayzor via NANOG
On 4/15/21 6:14 PM, Matthew Crocker wrote: I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer I'm in both locations as well. We have a 10MB static IP connection for them and I think it's like $50/mo. Depends on how "out of band" you want it to be. I also think Markley @ 1 summer

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
We don’t advertise it, but we’ll do the same where we can, which is most POPs. The 2mbit waived commit is smart, clean. I like it! Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades? —L.B. Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO l...@6by7.net

Re: Zayo or HE for IP transit

2021-04-20 Thread James Jun
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 04:28:12PM +, Luke Guillory wrote: > No issues with HE, only gripe was that if you had transit along with IX > peering, traffic will always prefer transit over IX ports. > > That's how it's supposed to work, and is not specific to HE. Customer routes > peer routes

RE: Zayo or HE for IP transit

2021-04-20 Thread Luke Guillory
No issues with HE, only gripe was that if you had transit along with IX peering, traffic will always prefer transit over IX ports. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Patrick W. Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 11:12 AM To: North American Operators' Group Subject: Re: Zayo or HE for IP transit

Re: Zayo or HE for IP transit

2021-04-20 Thread Adam Thompson
IMHO: * Zayo = worse coverage/connectivity, adequate connectivity to other Tier1/Tier2, massive fiber network * HE = less redundancy built into their network, but best-connected to leaves/edges of the internet (and still good connectivity to core) Others may have had different

Re: Malicious SS7 activity and why SMS should never by used for 2FA

2021-04-20 Thread Mel Beckman
Shop with your feet if security is weak. I changed banks because of SMS 2FA. -mel via cell On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Mike wrote:  An unfortunate fact is that many companies don't support anything other than sending a token via email, SMS, or sometimes a voice call. I've seen several

Re: Zayo or HE for IP transit

2021-04-20 Thread Nuno Vieira via NANOG
>From those two i would pick Zayo. HE.net don't allow you to play with communities and TE. cheers /nuno On Mon, 2021-04-19 at 21:30 +, James Lumby wrote: > What is the current experience with Zayo or HE? I’m looking at > possibly adding one of them into a mix of cogent and a mix from my >

Re: Zayo or HE for IP transit

2021-04-20 Thread Mike Lyon
I use both of them. I’d recommend you use either as a primary and bump cogent to secondary. Or axe cogent and use Zayo and HE. Cogent sucks. -Mike > On Apr 20, 2021, at 09:09, James Lumby wrote: > >  > What is the current experience with Zayo or HE? I’m looking at possibly > adding one

Re: Zayo or HE for IP transit

2021-04-20 Thread Robert Blayzor via NANOG
On 4/19/21 5:30 PM, James Lumby wrote: What is the current experience with Zayo or HE?  I’m looking at possibly adding one of them into a mix of cogent and a mix from my datacenter. Would be using BGP full routes.  Any experiences would be appreciated. Well AFAIK Zayo is not filtering

Re: Zayo or HE for IP transit

2021-04-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Hurricane has probably the most peering of any large network on the planet. They also carry more v6 traffic than anyone. But they have a famous problem with v6 - you cannot get to Cogent (174) from HE. Since you have Cogent, that should not be a problem. Private, smart people, customer service

Zayo or HE for IP transit

2021-04-20 Thread James Lumby
What is the current experience with Zayo or HE? I'm looking at possibly adding one of them into a mix of cogent and a mix from my datacenter. Would be using BGP full routes. Any experiences would be appreciated. Sincerely, James

Re: Malicious SS7 activity and why SMS should never by used for 2FA

2021-04-20 Thread Mike
An unfortunate fact is that many companies don't support anything other than sending a token via email, SMS, or sometimes a voice call. I've seen several large banks, insurers, etc. who do this. It's maddening when you sign up for access to something and are restricted to these options. On Mon,