Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

Why don’t you just deploy IPv6? If your upstream supports IPv6 excellent, just go ahead and ask an IPv6 link, pretty straightforward. Else if your upstream doesn’t do IPv6 yet, ask them to do so for you. And if they don’t want to do so, just pick one of your favorite transition mechanism and

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

The single biggest problem with IPv4 is NAT. The primary cause of NAT is address shortage. As such, I’d argue that IPv6 solves the two biggest problems with IPv4. Problem is that those who want to wait until everyone else moves forward before they do are a sufficient mass to severely hamper

Re: happy birthday, jon

> He'd be 78 today. yes, being a year senior, he used to give me a hard time about his being older and wiser. i think it was just his way of pulling rank :) > Still miss him, he was a great mentor and human being. indeed. still at usc; cool! patience and perseverance. randy

Re: happy birthday, jon

He'd be 78 today. Still miss him, he was a great mentor and human being. --celeste Get Outlook for Android From: NANOG on behalf of Randy Bush Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 11:48:18 AM To: North American Network Operators' Group

RE: Where to get IPv4 block these day

What is the average price per ip address for /24 with good reputation vs /24 with questionable reputation? Can you extrapolate too to /21 and /20? Jean From: NANOG On Behalf Of Tony Wicks Sent: August 5, 2021 4:08 PM To: 'NANOG' Subject: RE: Where to get IPv4 block these day

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

Randy Bush writes: > what i love most about the why ipv6 {has not deployed | does not work > for me | must be used immediately if not sooner | ...} is that it > provides such a rich field for posting to nanog etc. and folk think of > new brilliant discussion points every day. +1 The endless

Re: Abuse Contact Handling

Since my first formal abuse desk job in 2001 to now, all at large email providers, I’ve seen a lot of junk come to abuse mailboxes, that is true. YMMV depending on what sort of network you run / service you provide and what sort of customers you take on, but you do get a non trivial number of

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

>> It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity. >> Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? > Actually, yes. Many mobile networks are all v6 internally with NAT to > external v4 sites. what i love most about the why ipv6 {has not deployed | does not work for me |

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

> > IPhones handsets this part of the world are not common handsets to > majority of the end-users who are not middle class folk and even most > middle class folk still settle for cost effective Android handsets. > Android has had IPv6 support for what,10 years now? (Ignoring the SLAAC vs DHCPv6

happy birthday, jon

Re: Abuse Contact Handling

> > If you’re complaining about having to maintain an abuse desk or putting a > dummy address into your whois records, sturgeons law says most of the time > you’re the sort of provider who doesn’t want to staff an abuse desk. At my previous job for an ISP, I was the abuse desk among my other

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Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

It appears that Noah said: >It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity. > >Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? Actually, yes. Many mobile networks are all v6 internally with NAT to external v4 sites.

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

On 8/6/21 8:35 AM, Fred Baker wrote: On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Noah wrote: Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? Majority of people I know (due to economic factors) own lowend android handsets with no support for v6. This group forms majority of eyeballs that contribute

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, 18:35 Fred Baker, wrote: > > > > On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Noah wrote: > > > > Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? > > > > Majority of people I know (due to economic factors) own lowend android > handsets with no support for v6. This group forms majority of

Re: Abuse Contact Handling

If the way x is managing their network or (not) managing their customers means my network and my customers are affected .. route leaks? packet kiddies? phish sites? spammers? whatever. If what you’re doing or not doing affects someone else, expect complaints, possibly to your upstreams if

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Noah wrote: > > Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? > > Majority of people I know (due to economic factors) own lowend android > handsets with no support for v6. This group forms majority of eyeballs that > contribute revenue to local Telecoms

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, 18:11 Fred Baker, wrote: > > > > On Aug 6, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > > > v6 isn't a solution today for v4 problems. > > I don't know that IPv6 was ever intended to be a solution to IPv4 problems > per se. When a seed is planted in soil, a number of

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > v6 isn't a solution today for v4 problems. I don't know that IPv6 was ever intended to be a solution to IPv4 problems per se. It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity. signature.asc Description: Message signed

Re: Abuse Contact Handling

"we don’t get to tell someone they’re managing their network wrong" Sure we do. They don't have to listen, but we get to tell them. RFCs are full of things that one shall not do, must do, etc. We shame network operators all of the time for things they do that affect the global community.

Re: Abuse Contact Handling

Costs real money to figure out, for each customer scanning parts of the internet, if they’re doing it legitimately or maliciously. Costs real money to look into whether someone is spamming or just sending bulk email that customers signed up for. And what do you do if it is legitimate? Lots of

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

v6 isn't a solution today for v4 problems. Insults are not productive. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 5:31 PM Ca By wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 1:54 PM Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > >> *Sigh* >>

Re: Abuse Contact Handling

Is it even worth sending abuse reports anymore? Currently we just block bad IPs at our network border and move on but we have seen quite an uptick lately in attacks and probes from domestic IPs (US) on our VoIP platforms.Our #1 offender is coming from Microsoft Azure IPs. We have talked

Re: Abuse Contact Handling

I suppose if they did a better job of policing their own network, they wouldn't have as much hitting their e-mail boxes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Matt Corallo"