Re: datacenter scouting Boston area

2021-09-05 Thread Robert Taylor
There is Markley, which is right in Boston(and has a companion facility in Lowell). https://www.markleygroup.com/ There is coresite, which is in somerville, a stone's throw from boston: https://www.coresite.com/data-center/bo1-boston-ma I think Digital realty trust may have a facility in needham.

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Doug McIntyre
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 11:07:22PM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via NANOG wrote: > Another solution that I've used on occasion is to do your own > tunnelling: find a hosting provider that can provide you a VPS with a v6 > prefix and do your own tunnelling to that. This works by virtue of being >

Re: if not v6, what?

2021-09-05 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 9/5/21 3:28 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: I looked up CGN's this morning and the thing that struck me the most was losing port forwarding. It's probably a small thing to most people but losing it means to get an incoming session it always has to be mediated by something on the outside. Yuck.

if not v6, what?

2021-09-05 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/4/21 10:43 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: I view IPv6 as the biggest mistake of my career and feel responsible for this horrible outcome and I do apologise to Internet users for it. This dual-stack is the worst possible outcome, and we've been here over two decades, increasing cost and reducing

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
Hi Toke, On 9/5/21 3:07 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via NANOG wrote: Well, that's what I used to do back when I didn't have native v6 and ran into this issue: block v6 at the DNS level. I.e., simply filter out all records for offending service providers. Pretty simple to setup on your

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via NANOG
Grant Taylor via NANOG writes: > Hi, > > Does anyone have any recommendation for a viable IPv6 tunnel broker / > provider in the U.S.A. /other/ /than/ Hurricane Electric? > > I reluctantly just disabled IPv6 on my home network, provided by > Hurricane Electric, because multiple services my

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/5/21 18:22, Bjørn Mork wrote: I believe this is slowly sinking in among the technology evangelists and geeks who managed to drive the half-assed dual-stack transition a decade or two ago. No one will argue for dual-stack anymore. So where does that put us in a decade or two? Which

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/5/21 17:43, Brian Knight wrote: $DAYJOB (at a business SP) is much busier installing more VPNs in the form of SDWAN than anything IPv6 related.  There is a hell of a lot more customer demand for tools that route packets with finer control than just dest-based routing, not to mention

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Niels Bakker
* bj...@mork.no (Bjørn Mork) [Sun 05 Sep 2021, 18:24 CEST]: So where does that put us in a decade or two? Which protocol is optional? The one that costs money. You can already see this in mobile networks. -- Niels.

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Bjørn Mork
Saku Ytti writes: > I view IPv6 as the biggest mistake of my career and feel responsible > for this horrible outcome and I do apologise to Internet users for > it. This dual-stack is the worst possible outcome, and we've been here > over two decades, increasing cost and reducing service quality.

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 9/5/21 12:48 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: There we get to the heart of things. The problem is not with IPv6 or your ISP (*), but with the Netflix software. Hum Doing happy eyeballs and selecting an IP address out of the ones available that they *then* reject because they don’t like it:

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Brian Knight via NANOG
On 2021-09-04 23:33, Mark Tinka wrote: On 9/5/21 04:49, John Levine wrote: I have asked my ISP about IPv6 and their answer is that that they're not opposed to it but since I am the only person who has asked for it, it's quite low on the list of things to do. Supporting the routing and

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/5/21 06:44, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: Counting all the profit they make from a captive audience with no competition? ;) Well, with no more IPv4 to route and no IPv6 to deliver, those profits won't be lasting many more years. Mark.

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Carsten Bormann
> In fact, I am going to continue with said H.E. IPv6 tunnel, just without > advertising it to the network (RA / DHCPv6). I will have to statically > configure IPv6 on things that I want to use it on. There we get to the heart of things. The problem is not with IPv6 or your ISP (*), but

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-05 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 9/4/21 11:43 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: Municipal fiber. ;-) Which is the point, you cannot capitalise offering IPv6, so offering it is bad for business. People who have adopted IPv6 have eaten into their margins for no utility. I don't understand. :-/ I view IPv6 as the biggest mistake of

Re: Hurricane Ida updates

2021-09-05 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 5 Sep 2021, Eric Kuhnke wrote: During the peak of the rain storm in NJ+NY (see flooding deaths referenced in previous email), the wireless emergency alert systems were sending, simultaneously: 1) TORNADO WARNING SEEK SHELTER NOW GO TO BASEMENT [1] 2) FLOOD WARNING SEEK HIGH GROUND GET