Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation

[David Guo via NANOG]

Both options work, there’s no need to pay additional fee to ARIN unless you 
need something like unblock some websites. You can of course use RIPE IP and 
ASN in United Sates.

xTom GmbH

From: NANOG  on behalf of Edvinas 
Kairys 
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 4:44:58 AM
To: NANOG Operators' Group 
Subject: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation

Hello,

We're setting up IPv6 network is USA. Our company has branches and different 
legal entities in EU and US. We've some ipv6 PI subnets already allocated by 
RIPE for EU datacenters. I have few questions:

1) Is it possible to reuse some portion of RIPE allocated ipv6 addresses in USA 
? Or we need to ask for the new ones by requesting in ARIN ?
2) Can i request in ARIN just ipv6 subnets for USA DCs, but to use the same AS 
number which was allocated by RIPE in EU ?

Thanks

Re: .bv ccTLD

[Jay R. Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: "John Levine" 

> I suspect the Bougainvillians (Bougainvillains?) have a few more urgent topics
> to attend to.  The island's only significant asset is a huge copper mine which
> has been closed since 1989 when the civil war started.  If they can't figure
> out how to both get the mine open again and to deal with the environmental 
> mess
> left by the former operator, they won't have much of a country.

Well, sure, but with the copper deposit measured in double-digit billions, 
it seems sane to assume they've got a plan there...

Though given .TV's benefits to Tuvalu, and the number of Scandahoovian 
businesses that are BVs...

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274

Re: .bv ccTLD

[John Levine]

According to Jay R. Ashworth :
>- Original Message -
>> From: "John Levine" 
>
>> There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from.  GV or UV perhaps?
>
>I'm sure *I* would fight for a 3166 code that started with the first letter
>of my country name.  But it's not my country, so my concerns are esthetic,
>and academic (in either send of the word).

I suspect the Bougainvillians (Bougainvillains?) have a few more urgent topics
to attend to.  The island's only significant asset is a huge copper mine which
has been closed since 1989 when the civil war started.  If they can't figure
out how to both get the mine open again and to deal with the environmental mess
left by the former operator, they won't have much of a country.

R's,
John
-- 
Regards,
John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

Re: .bv ccTLD

[Jay R. Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: "John Levine" 

> There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from.  GV or UV perhaps?

I'm sure *I* would fight for a 3166 code that started with the first letter
of my country name.  But it's not my country, so my concerns are esthetic,
and academic (in either send of the word).

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274

Re: .bv ccTLD

[Sabri Berisha]

- On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:

Hi,

> NORID might try to make a case that BV is the common corporate abbreviation
> in their political subdivision... 

Same for .nl. Most people on this list will be familiar with AMS-IX BV.

Thanks,

Sabri

Re: .bv ccTLD

[Jay R. Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: "David Conrad" 

> Jay,
> 
> On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
>> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the 
>> domain
>> is still marked reserved at the Secretariat,
> 
> Sorry, which secretariat?  As far as I know, the official status of ISO 3166-1
> Alpha 2 codes is specified by the ISO-3166 Maintenance Agency and listed on 
> the
> ISO website (the “online browsing platform” output for BV being the URL I
> provided).

The ISO 3166 secretariat, yes.

>> which is to say they could not have assigned any domains in it yet, even if 
>> they
>> were inclined to which we are told they are not.
> 
> ISO 3166-1 Alpha-2 codes are used for more than TLDs.

True.

>> In short, I think this is a possibility not an impossibility or I wouldn't 
>> have
>> asked.
> 
> “With enough thrust, pigs fly quite well although the landing can be messy.”
> 
> However, realistically, I suspect you’d need to get the government of Norway 
> to
> actively pursue something like transitioning BV from their auspices to 
> anywhere
> else.  I also suspect the government of Bougainville (which I gather doesn’t
> yet exist) would need to request the change (and get an exception from the 50
> year hold down timer).  I am a bit skeptical...

Oh, there's a *formal* 50 year timer?  Apologies, I'd missed that one.

Yeah, as crappy as it will be for them to not have that 3166 code, you're 
probably
right that it won't happen.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274

Re: .bv ccTLD

[David Conrad]

Jay,

On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the 
> domain is still marked reserved at the Secretariat,

Sorry, which secretariat?  As far as I know, the official status of ISO 3166-1 
Alpha 2 codes is specified by the ISO-3166 Maintenance Agency and listed on the 
ISO website (the “online browsing platform” output for BV being the URL I 
provided).

> which is to say they could not have assigned any domains in it yet, even if 
> they were inclined to which we are told they are not.

ISO 3166-1 Alpha-2 codes are used for more than TLDs.

> In short, I think this is a possibility not an impossibility or I wouldn't 
> have asked.

“With enough thrust, pigs fly quite well although the landing can be messy.”

However, realistically, I suspect you’d need to get the government of Norway to 
actively pursue something like transitioning BV from their auspices to anywhere 
else.  I also suspect the government of Bougainville (which I gather doesn’t 
yet exist) would need to request the change (and get an exception from the 50 
year hold down timer).  I am a bit skeptical...

Regards,
-drc



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Re: .bv ccTLD

[John Levine]

It appears that David Conrad  said:
>> Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)
>
>Even if they did, transitioning codes is a long (99 year? I’ve forgotten) 
>process…

It's only 50, but yeah, it's not changing any time soon.

There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from.  GV or UV perhaps?

R's,
John

Re: .bv ccTLD

[Jay Ashworth]

In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the 
domain is still marked reserved at the Secretariat, which is to say they could 
not have assigned any domains in it yet, even if they were inclined to which we 
are told they are not. 

In short, I think this is a possibility not an impossibility or I wouldn't have 
asked.  

-- jra

On December 3, 2021 6:24:22 PM EST, David Conrad  wrote:
>On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth  wrote:
>> So, what's the actual status of .bv?  Assigned, or reserved?
>
>Assigned: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:BV 
>
>
>> Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)
>
>Even if they did, transitioning codes is a long (99 year? I’ve forgotten) 
>process…
>
>Regards,
>-drc
>

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Re: .bv ccTLD

[David Conrad]

On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth  wrote:
> So, what's the actual status of .bv?  Assigned, or reserved?

Assigned: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:BV 


> Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)

Even if they did, transitioning codes is a long (99 year? I’ve forgotten) 
process…

Regards,
-drc



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.bv ccTLD

[Jay R. Ashworth]

My favorite youtuber has just pointed out that Bougainville will separate 
formally from Papua New Guinea in 2027, which, surprisingly, is only 5 or 6
years from now.

So I looked up .bv, and of course... it's assigned to Bouvet Island, an 
uninhabited island whose political superior says anything that might go in
that TLD will go in .no instead. [Wikipedia]

So, what's the actual status of .bv?  Assigned, or reserved?  And if it 
is reserved at the 3166 secretariat level, can they reassign it?

NORID might try to make a case that BV is the common corporate abbreviation
in their political subdivision... but they're not selling those domains now,
so that doesn't seem compelling.

Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)

Cheers,
-- jra

-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274

questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation

[Edvinas Kairys]

Hello,

We're setting up IPv6 network is USA. Our company has branches and
different legal entities in EU and US. We've some ipv6 PI subnets already
allocated by RIPE for EU datacenters. I have few questions:

1) Is it possible to reuse some portion of RIPE allocated ipv6 addresses in
USA ? Or we need to ask for the new ones by requesting in ARIN ?
2) Can i request in ARIN just ipv6 subnets for USA DCs, but to use the same
AS number which was allocated by RIPE in EU ?

Thanks

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Analysis Summary


BGP routing table entries examined:  872006
Prefixes after maximum aggregation (per Origin AS):  330232
Deaggregation factor:  2.64
Unique aggregates announced (without unneeded subnets):  422156
Number of IPv4 prefixes with ROAs (including AS0):   249668
Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 72344
Prefixes per ASN: 12.05
Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   62105
Origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   25642
Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   10239
Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:369
Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table:   4.3
Max AS path length visible:  53
Max AS path prepend of ASN (265020)  50
Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table:   887
Number of instances of unregistered ASNs:   889
Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs:  37979
Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:   31483
Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table:  145463
Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:26
Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:1
Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:846
Number of addresses announced to Internet:   3072974336
Equivalent to 183 /8s, 41 /16s and 222 /24s
Percentage of available address space announced:   83.0
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Percentage of address space in use by end-sites:   99.5
Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations:  290540

APNIC Region Analysis Summary
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Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes:   231180
Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation:   64867
APNIC Deaggregation factor:3.56
Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks:  226302
Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:93047
APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   12095
APNIC Prefixes per ASN:   18.71
APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   3445
APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   1696
Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:4.5
Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 37
Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:   7281
Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet:  772945024
Equivalent to 46 /8s, 18 /16s and 52 /24s
APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431
(pre-ERX allocations)  23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319,
   58368-59391, 63488-64098, 64297-64395, 131072-151865
APNIC Address Blocks 1/8,  14/8,  27/8,  36/8,  39/8,  42/8,  43/8,
49/8,  58/8,  59/8,  60/8,  61/8, 101/8, 103/8,
   106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8,
   116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8,
   123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8,
   163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8,
   203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8,
   222/8, 223/8,

ARIN Region Analysis Summary


Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:256286
Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:   118209
ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.17
Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks:   255988
Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks:122305
ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet