Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I have two thoughts in relation to this: 1) It's amazing how many threads end up ending in the (correct) summary that making an even minor global change to the way the internet works and/or is configured to enable some potentially useful feature isn't likely to happen. 2) I'd really like to be

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread John Levine
It appears that Chris J. Ruschmann said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >How do you plan on getting rid of all the filters that don’t accept anything >less than a /24? > >In all seriousness If I have these, I’d imagine everyone else does too. Right. Since the Internet has no settlements, there is no way to

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread Masataka Ohta
Jon Lewis wrote: Yeah, but in another couple years we'll breach the 1M mark and everybody will have fresh routers with lots of TCAM for a while. If that were the only issue, it'd be a matter of timing the change well. Everybody will need them.  Not all will get (or be able to get) them.

RE: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread Robert McKay
On 2023-01-25 00:10, Chris J. Ruschmann wrote: How do you plan on getting rid of all the filters that don’t accept anything less than a /24? In all seriousness If I have these, I’d imagine everyone else does too. Allow someone to advertise a covering /24 (and route onward to the longer

RE: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread Chris J. Ruschmann
How do you plan on getting rid of all the filters that don’t accept anything less than a /24? In all seriousness If I have these, I’d imagine everyone else does too. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Justin Wilson (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 9:19 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Smaller

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:04 AM Jon Lewis wrote: The "other problem" is, every day more gear receiving full routes gets closer to (or farther past) the point where the resources to hold either the FIB or RIB just aren't there. For those using these

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:04 AM Jon Lewis wrote: > The "other problem" is, every day more gear receiving full routes gets > closer to (or farther past) the point where the resources to hold either > the FIB or RIB just aren't there. For those using these devices, lowering > the bar and bringing

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:19 AM Justin Wilson (Lists) wrote: Have there been talks about the best practices to accept things smaller than a /24? Hi Justin, The short version is: it could happen but it won't. There's no technical obstacle. It's

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:19 AM Justin Wilson (Lists) wrote: > Have there been talks about the best practices to accept things smaller than > a /24? Hi Justin, The short version is: it could happen but it won't. There's no technical obstacle. It's purely administrative. Tens of thousands of

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread Ian Chilton
Hi, On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, at 6:19 PM, Justin Wilson (Lists) wrote: > Have there been talks about the best practices to accept things smaller than > a /24? I qm seeing more and more scenarios where folks need to participate in > BGP but they do not need a full /24 of space. Yes, I think one of

Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

2023-01-24 Thread Justin Wilson (Lists)
Have there been talks about the best practices to accept things smaller than a /24? I qm seeing more and more scenarios where folks need to participate in BGP but they do not need a full /24 of space. Seems wasteful. I know this would bloat the routing table immensely. I know of several

Re: Starlink routing

2023-01-24 Thread Masataka Ohta
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