Re: BGP-iSec: Improved Security of Internet Routing Against Post-ROV Attacks

2023-11-14 Thread Amir Herzberg
Job, many thanks for this detailed feedback! I copy Nanog on my response below, since you sent there, but maybe we could move future emails off list to avoid spamming people not into this subject. * It appears that BGP-iSec requires a deployment flag day per Autonomous > System, rather than

Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
Mike asked: Well, and "better" for what purpose? Pull string? -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474

Wifi Carrier Off-load (T-Mobile ? )

2023-11-14 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hello, Is there any one here on Nanog list that has experience or information on how to setup T-Mobile Wifi Carrier Off-load ? (Passpoint), for enterprise use ? (I am familiar with and working with Google Orion, I am needing to do the same for T-Mobile) Will greatly appreciate any or all

Re: Zayo woes

2023-11-14 Thread michael brooks - ESC
If it makes you feel any better, we have been waiting for a simple BCI Circuit from Comcast for over a year (not 100% their fault, they had to permit a canal crossing). Two weeks ago, we received a construction completion email from our account manager, and I scheduled a turnup for the following

Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I saw a map once showing that they seemed to come into town from the west via I-88 (while other westerly routes traveled via the Rock Island). I only know of CenturyLink (then Digital Teleport) going west from 88, so maybe that's where they got their route from? I wonder where their huts\POPs

Re: Strange IPSEC traffic

2023-11-14 Thread Niels Bakker
* Shawn L [Mon 13 Nov 2023, 18:12 CET]: Is anyone else seeing a lot of 'strange' IPSEC traffic? This mail server running FreeBSD did: (timestamps in CET, UTC+1) Nov 10 00:58:55 mailserver kernel: ipsec_common_input: no key association found for SA 77.174.253.13/77b4/50 Nov 10 01:26:09

Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, and "better" for what purpose? Some glass may not work out well for longhaul 25+ terabit services, but would be fine for metro loops of regular services. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com -

Re: Zayo woes

2023-11-14 Thread Billy Earley via NANOG
Navigating the Zayo maze has become my five-month odyssey, attempting to breathe life into a new wave circuit. Yet, at every turn, the elusive Letter of Authorization (LOA) emerges as a formidable opponent, adorned with syntax problems or entangled in the chaos of already occupied ports.

Re: Strange IPSEC traffic

2023-11-14 Thread Tom Beecher
> > Last week somebody on the internet started a campaign to scan and perhaps > to exploit some zero day ipsec vulnerabilities. > I've seen traffic like this for the better part of at least the last 7 years, fairly consistently. It's definitely not something new. On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 12:42 

Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-14 Thread Tim Požar via NANOG
One consideration about older fiber, is it may not be maintained. I know of one large city owned installation that has older fiber that is being abandoned in order to pull higher count and better glass in. The old fiber will end up being cut due to construction, etc. so it is worthless.

Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-14 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 11/14/23 15:04, Mike Hammett wrote: "It would be nice if some folks on the list could provide some solid information, even if only for one large carrier." One of the busts that I never found much on was the Enron network. Where did it end up? I'd be interested in local route and POP

Celebration: RADB appears to now filter RPKI-invalid IRR route/route6 objects

2023-11-14 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
Dear NANOG, It appears the WHOIS service at whois.radb.net is now filtering out RPKI-invalid IRR route/route6 objects for common expansion queries! This really is exciting and excellent news. I'll elaborate a bit on what this exactly means. Example ROA & IRR object Take

Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-14 Thread Mike Hammett
" It would be nice if some folks on the list could provide some solid information, even if only for one large carrier." One of the busts that I never found much on was the Enron network. Where did it end up? I'd be interested in local route and POP details, offlist would be fine as well.

Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-14 Thread Mike Hammett
There were obviously many facets, but I think one of the turns was due to DWDM. You no longer needed a pair for every circuit. That then contributed to the glut of strands. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: Am I the only one who thinks this is disconcerting?

2023-11-14 Thread Giorgio Bonfiglio via NANOG
On a related note, I recently noticed Google became reachable again over IPv6 from Cogent (I didn't have any automated testing in place so this can well have happened long ago - last posts I can find about the issue are from mid-2020). It's apparently through Tata/6453 so looks like