Re: thoughts?

2010-05-27 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:07 AM, James Bensley jwbens...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2010 12:10, Dorn Hetzel dhet...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/05/27/internet.crunch.2012/index.html?hpt=T2 Disgraceful scaremongery, CCN should be ashamed. Why should CNN be ashamed? They're

Re: pls help about mtu setting

2010-06-17 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Deric Kwok deric.kwok2...@gmail.com wrote: My DSL company asks me to set the modem 146 2 and my old company used 14 92 Why it is not standard 1 500? Because they're wrapping your packet inside another packet that they then transmit on a line with a 1500 byte

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-17 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Roy r.engehau...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/16/2010 7:43 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:  With a larger network, multiple IP blocks, ***numerous multihomed customers***, some of which use IP's we've assigned them, it gets a little more complicated to do. I could reject at

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-18 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Steve Bertrand st...@ipv6canada.com wrote: On 2010.06.18 09:06, William Herrin wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Steve Bertrand st...@ipv6canada.com wrote: I'm not sure what that accomplishes. It doesn't close any doors. With loose-mode RPF he can still

Re: Recommendation in Australia for ISPs to force user security?

2010-06-22 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Gadi Evron g...@linuxbox.org wrote: http://www.zdnet.com.au/make-zombie-code-mandatory-govt-report-339304001.htm A government report into cybercrime has recommended that internet service providers (ISPs) force customers to use antivirus and firewall software or

Re: Contract negotiations advice?

2010-06-29 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Patrick Giagnocavo patr...@zill.net wrote: And the wider issue of negotiating good rates with telecoms? Carrier neutral facility. When it's in their house its their rules and their rules aren't designed for your benefit. When it's somebody else's house, they

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Gadi Evron g...@linuxbox.org wrote: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/07/01/finland.broadband/index.html?hpt=T2 In the US, the Communications Act of 1934 brought about the creation of the Universal Service Fund. The idea, more or less, was that every phone line

Re: Stratogent CoLo/DC Info

2010-07-12 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Molnar ste...@csudsu.com wrote: Anyoneone know anything about Stratogent ( www.stratogent.com )? They look to me as a Internap reseller with SaaS direction.  I am being asked to have a meeting with them from one of my VP level guys. Networking vendors

Re: Looking for comments

2010-07-21 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Fred Baker f...@cisco.com wrote: IETF IPv6 Operations WG is looking at this draft, and we're interested in any comments you might have as well. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines  Guidelines for Using IPv6 Transition Mechanisms,

Re: Looking for comments

2010-07-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines There is a third major challenge to dual-stack that isn't addressed in the document: differing network security models that must deliver the same result for the

Re: Looking for comments

2010-07-22 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:49 AM, William Herrin wrote: From the lack of dispute, can I infer agreement with the remainder of my comments wrt mitigations for the one of my addresses doesn't work problem and the impracticality

Re: Looking for comments

2010-07-23 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: However, the fact is that various *extremely* large operators find themselves more or less forced into these scenarios by IPv4 exhaustion. Hi Brian, Respectfully, anyone betting on what the ISPs will be

Re: IPv4 Exhaustion...

2010-07-23 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Positively Optimistic positivelyoptimis...@gmail.com wrote: How do ISPs  handle RIAA notices when NATTING customers.. ?   We have several customers that don't require public address space that could be moved to private..   We're reluctant to make the move due to

Re: Appliance Vs Software based routers

2010-07-25 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm wondering why the software based router is not preferable in business even if they have high featured Processers, and high capcity of memory. What is the main deferent between Appliance router and Software based

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-03 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote: If it is a business, then accurate address does not seem to me an issue, if it is a private address, I think a bit of fuzziness is helpful An apartment complex/condo/etc is a business which contains private addresses. Do

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-04 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu wrote: On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:35 17AM, William Herrin wrote: For the latter, you're providing significant amounts of a public resource (IP addresses) to a business whose contact information you're contractually and ethically

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu wrote: Clearly, the apartment complex owners could do that if they so choose.  I'm not sure who you suggest should buy a box from mail boxes etc. yourself and set up mail forwarding each time you set up a new apartment complex

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:49 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:04:47 EDT, William Herrin said: If you feel that way, I suggest you take the issue up on the ARIN public policy mailing list. Solicit public consensus for a change in handling for SWIPs for apartment

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:54 AM, ML m...@kenweb.org wrote: There's usually a 50/50 split between the HOA (Home Owners Association) and the individual that are our customers.  In the case of a HOA it's not that the HOA is reselling it's that we are contracted to service every member of the HOA

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:17 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:58:48 EDT, William Herrin said: It takes some creative reading to think I claimed using an alternate but still correct address (e.g. supplied by mailboxes etc.) constituted fraud. Alternate != redacted

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:37 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:23:12 EDT, William Herrin said: Absent such a change, redacting identity and contact info for the apartment management company remains simple fraud. fraud is usually defined as deception with intent

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:00 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:30:45 EDT, William Herrin said: A false representation of a matter of fact whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of what should have been disclosed

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: http://www.circleid.com/posts/psst_interested_in_some_lightly_used_ip_addresses/ I don't entirely understand the process.  Here's the flow chart as far as I've figured it out: 1.  A sells a /20 of IPv4 space to B for, say,

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Vadim Antonov a...@kotovnik.com wrote: How come ARIN has any say at all if A wants to sell and B wants to buy? Trying to fend off the imaginary monopolistic hobgoblin? Because that portion of the address-using community, people just like you, that shows up and

Re: 600 acres and a mule, was Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-14 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:00 AM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: And in complete fairness - why should folks who received vast tracts of addresses for little or no cost under a justified-need regime now have free reign to monetize their sale? All of the real estate in my part of New York

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:23 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/annual_rprt.html  In between meetings, this topic is probably best suited for the arin-discuss mailing list as opposed to the nanog list. John, Is arin-discuss still a closed

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: ARIN fees and budget are a member concern, not a public concern. Oh really? The money ARIN spends managing the public's IP addresses (and how it collects that money and the privileges conferred on the folks from whom it's

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:  The last round of improvements to the LRSA (version 2.0) added several  circumstances that result in pre-contract status quo, and additional  ones could be added if the community wants such and the Board concurs. John, I

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Aug 15, 2010, at 9:20 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: ARIN fees and budget are a member concern, not a public concern. I seem to recall that attitude was how

Re: BCP38 exceptions for RFC1918 space

2010-08-16 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Marco Hogewoning mar...@marcoh.net wrote: On 15 aug 2010, at 20:05, Randy Bush wrote: rfc1918 packets are not supposed to reach the public internet.  once you start accommodating their doing so, the downward slope gets pretty steep and does not end in a nice

Re: Should routers send redirects by default?

2010-08-24 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Christopher Morrow christopher.mor...@gmail.com wrote: Polling a little bit here, there's an active discussion going on 6...@ietf about whether or not v6 routers should:  o be required to implement ip redirect functions (icmpv6 redirect)  o be sending these by

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-02 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Zhiyun Qian zhiy...@umich.edu wrote: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~zhiyunq/pub/oakland10_triangular-spamming.pdf One of the high-level findings is that we developed probing techniques to verify that indeed most ISPs are only blocking 1) outgoing traffic of

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-03 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Daniel Senie d...@senie.com wrote: Ingress filtering is the correct tool for the job. Not really. Ingress filtering only ever protected you from being the source of spooding attacks, not the destination. The point of Zhiyun's results is that it doesn't fully

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-13 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il wrote: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/09/paid-prioritized-traffic No, the founders anticipated source-declared priorities for unpaid military and government traffic. Commercial Internet really wasn't on their radar. On

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,

2010-09-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:59:23 CDT, Joe Greco said: What prevents a service provider from saying We're selling you a 15M/2M circuit, and we guarantee that we've got sufficient capacity to consistently deliver at least 4M/512K

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:44 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: Your statement misses the point, which is, *who* gets to decide what traffic is prioritized? And will that prioritization be determined by who is paying my carrier for that prioritization, potentially against my own

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:28 PM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: Will the provider unbundle the components so that it's feasible for a niche vendor to sell me custom connection services? No? Then the provider doesn't get to decide. It's about control. As the customer, the guy with the green, I

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-20 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Michael Sokolov msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: Ditto with CLECs like Covad-now-MegaPath: even though they don't get access to the FTTN infrastructure, no telco is evicting their legacy CO presence.  Therefore, if a kooky customer like me wishes to forego fiber

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,

2010-09-20 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Tony Varriale tvarri...@comcast.net wrote: Of course the high level of oversub is an issue We'll disagree then.  Oversub makes access affordable. Sure, at 10:1. At 100:1, oversub makes the service perform like crap. With QOS, it still performs like crap.

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,

2010-09-20 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Justin Horstman justin.horst...@gorillanation.com wrote: Devil's Advocate here, What would you say to ISP A that provided similar speeds as ISP B, but B took payments from content providers and then provided the service for free? Gives you the choice, ISP A,

Re: Cisco 6509/6513 cable management...

2010-09-21 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Positively Optimistic positivelyoptimis...@gmail.com wrote: Do any of our fellow nanog members have experience with cable management on 6509/6513 cisco switches?   We're upgrading infrastructure in some of our facilities,..  and until it came to cable

Re: Software-based Border Router

2010-09-26 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Nathanael C. Cariaga nccari...@stluke.com.ph wrote: Thank you for the prompt response.  Just to clarify my previous post, I was actually referring to Linux/Unix-based routers.  We've been considering this solution because presently we don't have any budget for

Re: What must one do to avoid Gmail's retarded non-spam filtering?

2010-09-28 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Erik L erik_l...@caneris.com wrote: An increasingly large number of our customers are using Gmail or Google Apps and almost all of our OSS/BSS mail is getting spam filtered by Google. Among others, these e-mails include invoices, order confirmations, payment

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-09-29 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 08:38:17AM -0300, jim deleskie wrote: WOW full of yourself much.   Many of us use gmail and others to manage the load of mail we received from various lists.  I doubt we anyone needs your sympathies,

Re: the lazy mans HW research

2010-09-29 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:47 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:        i find myself in need of a multiport (8-16) 1 Gig ethernet HUB.        or a switch smart enough to do transparant port mirroring to at least        four ports. Bill, Out of curiousity, why? Would a set of gig-e

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-01 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette r...@tristatelogic.com wrote: Oh yea, and the snail mail addresses given in the WHOIS records for the domains will usually/often be tracable to UPS Store rental P.O. boxes... those are standard spammer favorites, because...as they well know...

Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time

2010-10-01 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:32 AM, David Miller dmil...@tiggee.com wrote: I am merely refuting the statement, which I have heard many times in many different forums, that ARIN (or any RIR) makes address allocations and then walks away with no further active involvement in the use of these

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-01 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:12 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: this is still less than a /8, which lasts ~3 months in ARIN region and less if you could across RIR's... Which is sort of like saying: Citizen: Hello, police?  There is a crate of M-16's and a truckload of ammunition

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-01 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:31 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: Quite possible if one is using it to distribute a virus. RE: Spanair flight JK-5022 http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1578877.php/C omputer-viruses-may-have-contributed-to-Spanish-2008-plane-crash

Re: ARIN IP/AS Assignment

2010-10-02 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Imran Moin imranm...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering how long it is taking ARIN these days to assign new IP block and AS Number. We are a new startup and looking to build our network over the next few months. Imran, The last few times I ran through the

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-02 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: That _seems_ fairly simple [...] it's straightforward corporate forensics, and the establishment of provenence, or the equivalent of an 'abstract of title' for real-estate. Hi Robert, It may seem simple but it only

Re: do you use SPF TXT RRs? (RFC4408)

2010-10-04 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Greg Whynott greg.whyn...@oicr.on.ca wrote: A partner had a security audit done on their site. The report said they were at risk of a DoS due to the fact they didn't have a SPF record. how many of you are using SPF records?  Do you have an opinion on their

Re: Scam telemarketers spoofing our NOC phone number for callerid

2010-10-06 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Dan White dwh...@olp.net wrote: If your PBX is SIP based, you might be victim of a SIP registration hijack, which are on the rise, based on traffic we've been seeing in our network. I had my unpublished asterisk box up for all of two days before getting half a

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-10-20 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote: I am trying to set up a local IPv6 network and am curious why all the examples I come accross do not seem to use the 40-bit pseudorandom number? What should I do? Use something like fd00::1234, or incorporate something

Re: network name 101100010100110.net

2010-10-20 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Day Domes daydo...@gmail.com wrote: I have been tasked with coming up with a new name for are transit data network.  I am thinking of using 101100010100110.net does anyone see any issues with this? Two helpful rules of thumb when picking a domain name: 1.

Re: Why ULA: low collision chance (Was: IPv6 fc00::/ 7 — Unique local addresses)

2010-10-21 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote: That's assuming ULA would be the primary addressing scheme used.  If that became the norm, I agree, the extra uniqueness would be desirable, perhaps to the point that you should be asking an authority for FC00::/8 space to be

Re: Why ULA: low collision chance (Was: IPv6 fc00::/ 7 — Unique local addresses)

2010-10-21 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: On 10/21/10 6:02 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote: That's assuming ULA would be the primary addressing scheme used.  If that became the norm, I agree, the extra

Re: Why ULA: low collision chance (Was: IPv6 fc00::/ 7 — Unique local addresses)

2010-10-22 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: On 10/21/10 6:38 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Jack Bates wrote: On 10/21/2010 5:27 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Announce your gua and then blackhole it and monitor your prefix. you can tell if you're

Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

2010-11-07 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: It's really quiet in here.  So, for some Friday fun let me whap at the hornets nest and see what happens...  ;-) And so, ...the first principle of our proposed new network architecture: Layers are recursive. Hi Scott,

Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

2010-11-08 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: And so, ...the first principle of our proposed new network architecture: Layers are recursive. : Anyone who has bridged an ethernet via a TCP based : IPSec tunnel understands that layers are recursive. WRT the paper

Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread William Herrin
Hiya folks, Why are your respective companies treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter instead of a standard technical change request like IP addresses or BGP? Sprint and Qwest, I know you're guilty. How many of the rest of you are making IPv6 installation harder for your customers than it needs

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:24 PM, George, Wes E [NTK] wesley.e.geo...@sprint.com wrote: Sprint and Qwest, I know you're guilty. [WES] Bill, I know that you mean well and you're just trying to push IPv6 deployment, and sometimes a little public shame goes a long way, but in the future, before you

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-19 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote: as most of you are aware, there is no definite, canonical name for the two bytes of IPv6 addresses between colons. This forces people to use a description like I just did instead of a single, specific term.

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-19 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: On 11/19/10 12:45 PM, William Herrin wrote: The meaningful boundaries in the protocol itself are nibble and /64. If you want socially significant boundaries, add /12, /32 and /48. It is possible and desirable to be able

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-20 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 23:52, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: I thought about that. Have a one colon rule that IPv6 addresses in hexidecimal format have to include at least one colon somewhere

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: fd00:68::1 and fd:0068::1 mean different things now. The former means fd00:0068::1 while the latter means 00fd:0068::1. I would instead have them mean the same thing: fd00:6800::1. The single-colon separator gets syntax but no

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread William Herrin
in the IPv6 address. He's gonna be trouble. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:12:09 EST, William Herrin said: 260:abcde:123456:98::1 260 - IANA to ARIN, a /12 abcde - ARIN to ISP, a /32 123456 - ISP to customer, a /56 98 - customer subnet ::1

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 16:54, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Because in my version fd::/8 actually is the same as fd00::/8, which, as you rightly point out, is exactly what a normal human being would

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Michael Brown mich...@supermathie.net wrote: On 11/22/2010 02:58 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: 010 is how C represents an octal number.  This one is known in decimal as 8. Obviously, what Greg meant to type was: $ ping 012.0xA.10.1 PING 012.0xA.10.1 (10.10.10.1)

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions

2010-11-29 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/level-3-communications-issues-statement-concerning-comcasts-actions-2010-11-29?reflink=MW_news_stmp I understand that politics is off-topic, but this policy affects operational

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-11-29 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Ben Butler ben.but...@c2internet.net wrote:  It is not double billing, it is shared billing. Hi Ben, Nice try, but no. There are a couple forms of shared billing. The one you're probably talking about is The Dance. Everybody pays to get in to the dance. The

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-11-29 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Ben Butler ben.but...@c2internet.net wrote: Then consumer broadband came along, the subs went down, the headline speeds went up, service delivery becomes impossible in the face of the marketing BS and here we are. Hi Ben, So you're saying: treat it like

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-11-29 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Andrew Koch andrew.k...@gawul.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 22:17, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: So if we can't bill you by usage, and at a consumer level we can't, then we have to find another way. Statistics and prayer isn't working out as well

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-11-30 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM, William Warren hescomins...@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com wrote: On 11/30/2010 12:09 AM, Andrew Koch wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 22:17, William Herrinb...@herrin.us  wrote: So you're saying: treat it like electrical service. I have a 200 amp electrical

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-11-30 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote: On 11/30/10 9:07 AM, William Herrin wrote: My Verizon Blackberry plan says unlimited data. Including the tether. Its 5GB, trust me on that one. I checked it out when I updated my credit card number online recently

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-12-01 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Derek J. Balling dr...@megacity.org wrote: On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:25 PM, William Herrin wrote: There are a couple forms of shared billing. There's a third kind you failed to mention that doesn't require equal footing of the parties. The broker. I might pay

Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks

2010-12-02 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Jay Nakamura zeusda...@gmail.com wrote: I really want to move all newly installed internal and customer racks over to all 208v power instead of 120v.  As far as I can remember, I can't remember any server/switch/router or any other equipment that didn't run on

Re: Want to move to all 208V for server racks

2010-12-02 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Ingo Flaschberger i...@xip.at wrote: I really want to move all newly installed internal and customer racks over to all 208v power instead of 120v.  As far as I can remember, I can't remember any server/switch/router or any other equipment that didn't run on

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-12-02 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Steve Gibbard s...@gibbard.org wrote: Regardless of whether the apartment broker comparison holds up, there are many examples of what economists call two-sided markets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-sided_market They don't all have the same fee-splitting

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-12-03 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Steve Gibbard s...@gibbard.org wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-sided_market They don't all have the same fee-splitting systems, and you can find an example to site as precedent for just

Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.

2010-12-03 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: Sunday Night Football at the top last week, with 7.1% of US homes watching. That's over 23 times as many folks watching as the 0.3% in our previous math! Ok, 23 times 150Gbps.

Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.

2010-12-03 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:47 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Perhaps the eyeball networks should build, standardize and deploy a content caching system so that the popular Netflix streams (and the live

Re: BGP multihoming question.

2010-12-09 Thread William Herrin
2010/12/9 b2 b...@playtime.bg: Hi , first sorry for lame question but i'm new to BGP. In my ISP I have two full BGP sessions with my two transit providers (X and Y), and for every provider i have assigned PA (Provider Aggregatable) networks. Is it possible (if there are no filters on other

Re: Windows Encryption Software

2010-12-09 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote: I want to know if there's software out there that will encrypt files on win2k3, winxp, win7, so that if someone decides to steal the computer and plug the harddrive into a USB external case, they won't be able to

Re: Windows Encryption Software

2010-12-10 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote: Software-based solutions have the advantage that they are somewhat more testable and reviewable.  If it's all in the disk, you can't really be sure that the data is encrypted with a static key, and the passphrase is used

Re: IPv6 - real vs theoretical problems

2011-01-06 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Deepak Jain dee...@ai.net wrote: Wouldn't a number of problems go away if we just, for now, follow the IPv4 lessons/practices like allocating the number of addresses a customer needs --- say /122s or /120s that current router architectures know how to handle --

Re: IPv6 - real vs theoretical problems

2011-01-07 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Deepak Jain dee...@ai.net wrote: Question - Whatever happened to the concept of a customer coming to their SP for more space? [E]very week we could widen their subnet without causing any negative impact on them? Clever folks figured that making the customer

Re: IPv6 - real vs theoretical problems

2011-01-07 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: NAT has no inherent security benefits whatsoever. Hi Roland, With that statement, you paint with a remarkably broad brush. As you know, folks use (or perhaps misuse) the term NAT to describe everything from RFC 1631 to

Re: IPv6 - real vs theoretical problems

2011-01-07 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Jan 8, 2011, at 8:54 AM, William Herrin wrote: I presume you don't intend us to conclude that a bastion host firewall provides no security benefit to the equipment it protects. If it's protecting workstations, yes

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-12 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 5:41 AM, Tarig Ahmed tariq198...@hotmail.com wrote: We have wide range of Public IP addresses, I tried to assign public ip directly to a server behined firewall( in DMZ), but I have been resisted. Security guy told me is not correct to assign public ip to a server, it

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-12 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:04:01 EST, William Herrin said: In a client (rather than server) scenario, the picture is different. Depending on the specific NAT technology in use, the firewall may be incapable of selecting a target

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-13 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Jack Bates wrote: The proxy capabilities of the firewall are additional security measures on top of the NAT (and definitely should be deployed for their higher security value). Not in

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-13 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote: On 1/13/2011 11:56 AM, William Herrin wrote: So all the folks who use reverse proxies like an http accellerator are wrong? They have their purpose. However, depending on the security rating of the accelerator versus

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-13 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message aanlktikixf_mbuo-oskpjsw98vn5_d5wznui_pl37...@mail.gmail.com, William  Herrin writes: There's actually a large difference between something that's impossible for a technology to do (even in theory), something

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-14 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: Unfortunately, a large number of web sites have been compromised, where an unseen iFrame might be included in what is normally safe content.  A device accessing the Internet through a NATs often creates opportunities for

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-14 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Ah, but, the point here is that NAT actually serves as an enabling technology for part of the attack he is describing. Hi Owen, Doug's comments on that were pretty abstract, so let me try to ground it a little bit. He

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-15 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Brian Keefer ch...@smtps.net wrote: 1.)  Allows you to redirect a privileged port (on UNIX) to a non-privileged port. For daemons that don't implement some form of privilege revoking after binding to a low port (and/or aren't allowed to run as root), this is

Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-17 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote: Our listing is misleading. They show me specifically what needs to be done and why and we will act on it. The problem is that they expect me to dig through our customer database and correlate various customers to

Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-17 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:58 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: I pulled up http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL100691 . There is a rather long list at that page of offending IP addresses

Re: Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-17 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote: I fat fingered the netmask, try now. Jeff, You have some work left to do. Much of it is exhibited in the Spamhaus listing. wget -nd http://eros-pharmacy.com/ --2011-01-17 19:54:44-- http://eros-pharmacy.com/

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