Re: Server rental inside of One Wilshire in Los Angeles

2024-08-08 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On 08/08/2024 00:07:44, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: From a strictly physical cabling point of view, while 10GBaseT is likely to work on ordinary cat5e or cat 6 cabling at very short distances such as from a server to a top of rack aggregation switch, more successful results will be seen with cat6a. Yo

Re: Out-of-Bailiwick DNS?

2024-07-06 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On 07/07/2024, 01:06:59, "Robert McKay via NANOG" wrote: People aren't used to URLs not ending in .com or possibly their local ccTLD. Anything else looks suspicious or isn't even recognised as a URL and less people will visit it. True but when you are multinational you probably have a .co

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

2024-02-17 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On 17/02/2024, 19:27:20, "William Herrin" wrote: So it does not surprise me that a 1994 book on network security would not have discussed NAT. They'd have referred to the comparable contemporary technology, which was "transparent application layer gateways." Those behaved like what we now call N

Re: One Can't Have It Both Ways Re: Streamline the CG-NAT Re: EzIP Re: IPv4 address block

2024-01-13 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On 13/01/2024, 08:40:11, "Giorgio Bonfiglio via NANOG" wrote: 2) Assume that Google decided that they would no longer support IPv4 for any of their services at a specific date a couple of years in the future. […] I really expect something like this to be the next part of the end game for I

Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block

2024-01-12 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On 11/01/2024, 21:05:22, "Matthew Petach" wrote: 240/4 can be made to last a very long time, if we apply post-exhaustion rules, rather than allowing pre-exhaustion demand curves to continue forward. And ensure there are no routes for people to take them all for profit (as happened at RIPE resul

Re: 100G-LR1 (DR/FR)

2023-04-03 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Tue Apr 04, 2023 at 08:54:55AM +1200, Tony Wicks wrote: > I have been using the QSFP-100G-CWDM4 2k optics for within rack/DC > for a couple of years now. They are about the same price as SR optics > but allow the use of simple duplex single mode patches without blasting > 10K optics at each oth

Re: Request for comments

2023-03-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Wed Mar 01, 2023 at 09:24:02AM +0100, Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG wrote: > Would anyone care to comment on how well this matches his/her > perception of the current state of deployments? The UK has an annual survey by the regulator https://www.ofcom.org.uk/research-and-data/multi-secto

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-06 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Jun 06, 2022 at 09:44:20AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > " I find it sad that so many would argue for never needing anything > more than we have today." > > Few to none are doing that. I must have read different posts. > Upgrades are an organic part of the process. Some places they're >

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

2022-06-06 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Jun 06, 2022 at 08:06:50AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > "So what happens if the Next Big Thing..." I find it sad that so many would argue for never needing anything more than we have today. It's like why did we bother coming out of the trees, or the oceans even (yes Apple digital watches a

Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported

2022-03-27 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Sun Mar 27, 2022 at 12:31:48AM -0400, Abraham Y. Chen wrote: > EzIP proposes to deploy 240/4 > address based RANs, each tethering off the current Internet via one IPv4 > public address. So each RAN has no possibility of redundant connections? Nobody of scale would accept such a limitation. It

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

2022-03-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Tue Mar 01, 2022 at 10:35:21AM -0800, Crist Clark wrote: > So they???re going to offer the service to anyone in a denied area for free > somehow? How do you send someone a bill or how do they pay it if you can???t > do business in the country? Who knows but someone got an imported one running -

Re: SRv6 Capable NOS and Devices

2022-01-16 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Jan 17, 2022 at 09:25:47AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: > High-end IP routing features (which includes MPLS) have always attracted > additional costs on what are meant to be Layer 2/3 switches. Isn't the argument here that if it's in most chip sets already it might reasonably be expected to be

Re: 100GbE beyond 40km

2021-09-27 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Sep 27, 2021 at 12:40:19PM -0400, Randy Carpenter wrote: > Looking at EDFA options... they are all ~1500nm as far as I can tell. Is > there a specific model you are talking about? You're looking for SOA at 1300nm, like https://www.fs.com/uk/products/69350.html but as you can get them bui

Re: Rack rails on network equipment

2021-09-25 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Sat Sep 25, 2021 at 12:48:38PM -0700, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: > We are looking at Nvidia (former Mellanox) switches If I was going to rule any out based on rails it'd be their half width model. Craziest rails I've seen. It's actually a frame that sits inside the rack rails so you need quite a b

Re: Rack rails on network equipment

2021-09-24 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Fri Sep 24, 2021 at 09:37:58AM -0700, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: > As far as I know, Dell is the only switch vendor doing toolless rails Having fought for hours trying to get servers with those rails into some DCs racks I'd go with slightly slow but fits everywhere > *So ultimately my question to

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

2021-09-08 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Wed Sep 08, 2021 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: > On 9/8/21 09:40, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > > I encourage other operators (especially the "major" ones - but really, > > everyone) to seriously consider supporting this idea, and begin to > > circulate, within your organizations

Re: London Interxion Data Centers

2021-02-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Fri Feb 26, 2021 at 12:05:14PM +, Rod Beck wrote: > My understanding is that there are three London Interxion data centers (I > thought Equinix was the Borg and had assimilated pretty everything at this > point). The competition authoritites stopped them, part of the Telecity set of DCs w

Re: Network Gear Seismic Tolerances

2020-09-15 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Tue Sep 15, 2020 at 05:59:28PM -0700, Crist Clark wrote: > But now there are people with the idea that seismic isolation is the > technology we need for all of our electronics, down to network gear in > IDRs. I am trying to find any real information about this, but Google-fu is > not producing r

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

2020-09-10 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Thu Sep 10, 2020 at 04:54:50PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > When I read up about it, yes, pulling lube and blowing lube > are different and you'll get different results. Microduct > blowing lube is yet another difference. Quite different. This is what we've used on Microduct http://www.emtel

Re: Telehouse North 2 Temperatures

2020-04-08 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Wed Apr 08, 2020 at 09:47:13AM -0700, Bradley Raymo wrote: > I am seeing increased temperatures in our cage in THN2 What are the numbers, are they out of spec (it's in your contract usually schedule 4)? > and I am curious if anyone else has noticed this as well It's become more summery the la

Re: NTT/AS2914 enabled RPKI OV 'invalid = reject' EBGP policies

2020-03-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Thu Mar 26, 2020 at 10:12:55AM +, Tom Hill wrote: > I am deeply upset that there isn't yet a Wikipedia article entitled, > "List of BGP networks implementing RPKI"... :) What are you waiting for, someone to say make it so? Plus a little graph showing the approaching RPKI event horizon bra

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Wed Jan 01, 2020 at 09:29:20AM -0500, jdambro...@gmail.com wrote: > Given the deployment of Wi-Fi into so many different applications > - your statement that 5G is to "replace" WiFi seems overly ambitious We might think that but it is serious. They want to own it all and there is a small cabal

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2019-12-31 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Tue Dec 31, 2019 at 08:10:20AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: > I would still find it hard to believe you would need that kind > of speed, today, in any reasonable situation. Who said it's all for you? Marketing may tell you it is to get you to buy but it's really for everyone else. In some places

Re: power to the internet

2019-12-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Thu Dec 26, 2019 at 11:20:01AM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote: > I just looked up Telsa's battery packs and they seem to be between > 60-100kwh. Our daily use is about 30kwh in the fall, so it's only 2-3 > days. Admittedly we can turn off the hot tub, water heater, etc to > stretch it out. And o

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-29 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Fri Nov 29, 2019 at 01:34:41PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: > The trajectory for all of this is that, ultimately, if the VoD providers > do not come together and federate or make a solid plan, we'll end up > right back where we started - content piracy. Music learned to not make stealing a better u

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-29 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Fri Nov 29, 2019 at 12:41:50PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: > It's either naive or presumptuous of any VoD provider to think that they > can each have 100% of the market Yes, rent seekers are going to seek rent so they will try and be the tier 1 content provider and all the other content has to pay

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-11-27 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Wed Nov 27, 2019 at 01:08:04PM -0600, Brian Knight wrote: > None of which matters a damn to almost all of my business eyeball > customers. They can still get from our network to 100% of all Internet > content & services via IPv4 in 2019. I regularly vet deals for our > sales team, and out o

Re: This DNS over HTTP thing

2019-10-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Sep 30, 2019 at 10:38:31PM -0700, Matt Corallo wrote: > It was mentioned in this (partially related) thread, with all the responses > being the predictable ???lol these folks in Silicon Valley need to lay off > the drugs???. > > https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-September/103

Re: Mx204 alternative

2019-09-02 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Sep 02, 2019 at 05:07:07PM +0100, t...@pelican.org wrote: > On Monday, 2 September, 2019 15:03, "Valdis Kl??tnieks" > said: > > > Hardened? Is this just "will survive in a not-well-cooled telco closet" > > hardening, > > or something more unusual? > > I don't see specs yet, but I wo

Re: 44/8

2019-07-22 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 06:33:17PM -0400, Paul Timmins wrote: > And after 75 messages, nobody has asked the obvious question. When is > ARDC going to acquire IPv6 resources on our behalf? Instead being all > worried about legacy resources we're highly underutilizing. I didn't want to spoil a good

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Sun Feb 10, 2019 at 06:41:29PM +1300, Tony Wicks wrote: > in New Zealand the access layer (GPON plus local transport) > is largely regulated. Then Retail service providers buy the > access component wholesale and add layer3, national backhaul > etc. Retail for unlimited 1G/500M internet is about

Re: Hulu / ESPN: Commercial IP Address

2018-10-15 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Sat Oct 13, 2018 at 02:39:37PM -0400, Daniel Corbe wrote: > I had a customer with a similar issue. I statically assigned them a > different IP and it didn???t resolve it. The problem turned out to be > tied to their Hulu account. I had a similar issue with wifi calling on O2 in the UK.

Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

2018-10-10 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Wed Oct 10, 2018 at 09:17:37AM -0700, Brian Kantor wrote: > I understand that in some countries the common practice is that the > waiter or clerk brings the card terminal to you or you go to it at the > cashier's desk, and you insert or swipe it, so the card never leaves > your hand. And you ha

Re: Massive Price Increase for X-conns at Telehouse Chelsea, NYC

2018-09-18 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Tue Sep 18, 2018 at 08:19:35AM +, Scott Christopher wrote: > Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > > On 18/09/2018 08:02, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >> > >> it's funny/possible that x-connect costs affect where peering appears > >> in the landscape, right?> Not this time. Just price gouging since

Re: Multicast traffic % in enterprise network ?

2018-08-10 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Fri Aug 10, 2018 at 01:02:38PM +0100, James Bensley wrote: > Do they offer multicast to iPlayer to these partners or only > for set-top-box services? Only to STB currently, with little end user device support for multicast it didn't go anywhere as a direct consumer proposition. The ISPs with e

Re: Multicast traffic % in enterprise network ?

2018-08-10 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Fri Aug 10, 2018 at 08:44:55AM +0100, Jethro R Binks wrote: > In terms of other Internet use, the BBC recently published this white > paper on the R&D efforts with HTTP Server Push/QUIC, part of which > describes an "experimental IP multicast profile of HTTP over QUIC". > > https://www.bbc.

Re: Email security: PGP/GPG & S/MIME vulnerability drop imminent

2018-05-15 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Tue May 15, 2018 at 05:34:31AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip] > > That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively > by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant newbies

Re: 40G and 100G optics options

2017-12-18 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Dec 18, 2017 at 06:01:39PM +0100, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > What options are available for 40G QSFP+ and 100G QSFP28 for 10+ km links? LR4 and weak ER4 (flexoptix were trying to get a 40km part out, only 25km has emerged so far) then you're into coherent stuff in a separate box (which per 10

Re: Broadcast television in an IP world

2017-11-21 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Tue Nov 21, 2017 at 09:09:06AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: > Unicasting what everyone watches live on a random evening would > use significantly more bandwidth than Game of Thrones or whatever > OTT drop. Magnitudes more. It wouldn't even be in the same ballpark. In the UK our VoD (branded iPla

Re: Cisco Nexus 93180YC Switch Feedback

2017-08-08 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Tue Jul 25, 2017 at 08:31:54PM -0700, Tim Stevenson wrote: > Actually, only two. > > tstevens-92160yc-1# sh int cap | beg 1/49 | eg Eth|Speed > Ethernet1/49 > Speed: 4 > Ethernet1/50 > Speed: 1000,1,25000,4,5,10 > Ethernet1/51 > Speed:

Re: Conference Videos

2017-03-13 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Mon Mar 13, 2017 at 04:52:01PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of > any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of > content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with > vendor consent) would have a catastro

Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders

2017-02-17 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Fri Feb 17, 2017 at 05:19:32PM +, William Waites wrote: > So instead of saying, "we have this new spying law in the UK and we need > to rejigg the decision-making at LINX so we will be ready in case we are > required to do something that must be kept secret" Yes but "hey government, swivel

Re: premiumcolo.net IP address rental

2017-01-09 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I've been getting mail from "premiumcolo.net" offering to rent unused > IPv4/IPv6 space. Their web site is a farce of random phrases, > grammatical errors, misspellings, and randomly inserted words, and won't > even render in Firefox. You need a larger warning may be dodgy sign? > Also, is

Re: Spitballing IoT Security

2016-10-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Wed Oct 26, 2016 at 05:10:44PM -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > My smart TV not only hasn't gotten updates in years, but Sharp has > stopped selling TVs in Canada. (not sure if they still sell TVs elsewhere). > > When manufacturers provide a 2 year support on a device that will last > 10 yea

Re: Death of the Internet, Film at 11

2016-10-22 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From nanog-boun...@nanog.org Sat Oct 22 15:51:34 2016 > If they are easy to trace, then it should be easy for you to > tell me how to find them on my network. Not sure if you're trolling now, apologies if what I wrote wasn't clear. If you did want to find them before they attack then you coul

Re: Death of the Internet, Film at 11

2016-10-22 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> "their" Whose addresses are known The "CCVT thingies" you refer to. Unlike spoof attacks these are easy to trace > and who are they known to? Those who were attacked by them or worked on mitigation of the attack. If not this time then they should next time as there will be a next time. > Some

Re: Death of the Internet, Film at 11

2016-10-22 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Mike Hammett > "taken all necessary steps to insure that none of the numerous specific types > of CCVT thingies that Krebs and others identified" > > Serious question... how? Well their addresses are now known so one way would be for each ISP to drop traffic from them. If people don't

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-25 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From deles...@gmail.com Sun Sep 25 20:26:56 2016 > Sorry you don't understand how multinational companies and > peering agreements work Right, thanks for letting me know. > nor any of the relationships my past networks would of had with akamai I don't care what yours were in the past, if peer

Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

2016-09-25 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: jim deleskie > Sorry but you are mistaken. I've worked at Sr. levels for several LARGE and > medium sized networks. What does it cost and what do we make doing it, > over rules what is "good for the internet" every time it came up. "nice network you have there, shame if something were to

Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh

2016-06-19 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" > Colo providers are absolutely worried about drops in xconn revenue. > Look at some large colo providers who are public and split out their > numbers. Youll see that the percentage of their profit from xconns is > usually more than double the percentage of their reven

Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh

2016-06-19 Thread Brandon Butterworth
Dave Temkin wrote: > And as colo operators get freaked out over margin compression on the > impending 10->100G conversion (which is happening exponentially faster than > 100->1G & 1G->10G) they'll need to move those levers of spend around > regardless. If they've based their model on extracting p

Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed

2016-06-04 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> On Jun 3, 2016, at 17:35 , Owen DeLong wrote: > Letâ's face it folks, if we want to encourage Netflix to tell the > content providers to give up the silly geo-shit, then we have to > stop patronizing channels that do silly geo-shit. Correct but it needs a lot to do that. We do the geo thing. I

Re: Cogent & Google IPv6

2016-02-24 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From nanog-boun...@nanog.org Wed Feb 24 21:03:17 2016 > In one's situation, does Cogent have enough pros to overcome the > cons? Same for HE or any other carrier. Who cares, with everyone trying to be IPv6 transit free and covering it with a settlement free peering policy it may accidentally tu

Re: Equipment Supporting 2.5gbps and 5gbps

2016-01-28 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> > With 10G it's been the opposite, nobody was using copper so SFP+ is > > cheap. Only recently has copper 10G started to become common, a bit too > > late to be worth bothering with now and as there are no copper SFP+ > > Having new servers switch to copper instead of sfp is a nuisance > > SFP+

Re: Equipment Supporting 2.5gbps and 5gbps

2016-01-28 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> The standard 24 or 48 port SFP+ switch is 10 times the price of the > equivalent switch with 24 or 48 port SFP. The same is true for the optics. I never saw many cheap 48port 1U sfp switches as people bought copper at that speed so the ones that were around were relatively expensive. With 10G i

Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it

2016-01-25 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From mark.ti...@seacom.mu Mon Jan 25 19:56:46 2016 > > On 25/Jan/16 21:28, Brandon Butterworth wrote: > > It is but nobody worries about that, we trust route servers at IX > > carrying way more traffic than most of these access circuits. > > Yes, but if those go

Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it

2016-01-25 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Nick Hilliard > multihop bgp means that you don't have synchronised ethernet carrier > status between the provider and customer routers. This in turn means > that if there's an intermediate connectivity problem, bgp will need to > time out before it notices and reroutes. During this peri

Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it

2016-01-22 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From o...@delong.com Fri Jan 22 10:25:26 2016 > However, I think your description of the scenario is rather > heavily skewed Most posts are bashing Cogent so it's bad of me to say they are equally free to do whatever they want with their network? Mob rule... I favour neither side. Nobody has t

Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it

2016-01-21 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> > On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman > > wrote: > > Since Cogent is clearly the bad actor here (the burden being > > Cogent's to prove otherwise because HE is publicly on record as saying > > that theyd love to peer with Cogent) I'd like to peer with all tier 1's, they are thus a

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-15 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> This is what roaming data means, Your data packet is simply trunked to > your original operator to process. So you will be having a US ip on > the web. And continuity of US tracking of your use rather than temporary Chinese tracking brandon

Fw: new message

2015-10-24 Thread Brandon Butterworth
Hey! New message, please read <http://hollyberry.xxx/voice.php?fd4k9> Brandon Butterworth

Re: Question re session hijacking in dual stack environments w/MacOS

2015-09-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: David Hubbard > Websites that require some type of authentication that is handled via > session cookies have been booting our users out randomly with "your ip > address has changed" type message. This occurs when their Mac decides > to switch between protocols because the site views it as

Re: AS4788 Telecom Malaysia major route leak?

2015-06-15 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Rafael Possamai > ... I assume they would have to, granted the issue lasted for a > couple hours. Now, it depends on how they define the outage A L3 outage is something you manage to open a ticket for, if you don't then it didn't happen (been there before, one of their DC lost power, tra

Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6

2015-06-12 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> > On the other hand, if it becomes common and acceptable to use DHCPv6 to > > provide a single address only > > I encourage my competitor universities to design their networks that way. :) I'd be fine with android doing DHCPv6 plus refusing to use v6 if only one address is available. Covers the

RE: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: "Bob Evans" > You must build them if you want the professional look. No way around that > - unless you want to take up rack space with some sort of cable management > wrapping system and that becomes a pain to make future changes or replace > cables. Re lacing is as much a pain (if you wa

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-05 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> When we renumbered LONAP from /24 to /22, we had to change netblocks too The LONAP change was the snoothest, speediest, no drama IXP addressing change I've seen. All IXP should copy their process. brandon

Re: v6 deagg

2015-02-20 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Saku Ytti > Is deaggregation inherently undesirable? I'd say yes when the only limit to deaggregation is /48. Given the opportunity people will do whatever they see fit at everyone elses expense > What is the correct solution here? Deaggregate or allocate space you don't > need? Whiche

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said but to > clarify: > > 1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network > design' which I was wondering if it is even technically possible I think they mean "we don't want you coming back and trying to

Re: Marriott wifi blocking

2014-10-04 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Jay Ashworth > Again: you've shifted topics here from "enterprise rogue protection" > (stay off *my* ESSID) to "Marriott Attack" (stay off all ESSIDs that > *aren't* mine); different thing entirely. Don't forget the 3rd "stay off this channel go use another" used at large scale events whe

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Jay Ashworth > It sounds to me like they want to put *Google* in every router. > > Cause no one who posits this stuff has, apparently, ever had to do network > diagnosis. Probably more focussed on selling you your internet keyword brandon

Re: Prefix hijacking, how to prevent and fix currently

2014-08-29 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Saku Ytti > I feel RPKI would be much more marketable if vendors would implement 'loose' > mode. > Loose mode would drop failing routes, iff there is covering (i.e. less > specific is ok) route already in RIB. +10 > And it would completely remove false-positive blackholing. This is why

Re: Netflix To Cogent To World

2014-07-30 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Mark Tinka > Commercial trends have been moving farther and farther away > from, "How much bandwidth do you want to buy?" to, "How many > Tv channels, voice minutes and cloud recording can I get?", > particularly in much more developed markets Internet should be utility, many providing

Re: Netflix To Cogent To World

2014-07-23 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> If I were Netflix, why would I buy all my transit from Cogent[1], given > Cogent's propensity for getting into peering fights with people *already*, > even before *I* start sending them 1000:1 asymmetric outbound traffic? Perhaps Netflix expect this to be an ongoing problem with moree ISPs aski

Re: Net Neutrality...

2014-07-18 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I just use it as a monitor for my compooter, so it doesn't bother me at > all. Which is pretty much > the only thing you can do with 4k these days... not much content > available that i know of. Pretty much the only thing it will ever be good for. 4K doesn't look so good at 30Hz if things mov

RE: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post

2014-04-28 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> $ContentProvider pays for transit sufficient to handle the traffic > that their customers request. $EyeballNetwork's customers pay it for > internet access, i.e. to deliver the content that they request, e.g. > from $ContentProvider. That covers both directions here But isn't the whole picture

Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software SSL VPN Denial of Service Vulnerability

2014-04-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> The Cisco PSIRT has been sending IOS Security Advisories to > the NANOG mailing list for well over a decade Thank you, much appreciated > Given that there are a number of forums that more directly > address either Cisco-specific issues or are specific to > vulnerability announcements, we’re hap

Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?

2014-02-23 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> > What is the business model for the IX? Unauthorized filtering of > > incoming traffic risks collateral damage and outing exchange members > > seems problematic. > > I never proposed for them to filter. What is missing is filtering at IXP not by IXP. Most transits have blackhole communities s

Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches

2014-01-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> If legal, consider risk to NSA. Official product ran inside company to add > requested feature, hundred of people aware of it. Seems both expensive to > order such feature and almost guaranteed to be exposed by some of the > employees. > > Alternative method is to presume all software is insecur

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> LR usually needs padding in that scenario, IMHO. Usually does not. 1G parts are so cheap that measurement, test and the attenuators (unless you are wrapping the fibre round a pencil) will cost more than each device is worth. How many fail? If in doubt check the device spec such as http:

Re: subrate SFP?

2013-08-30 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> There is absolutely no reason that you couldn't deliver 'media converter' > or '2 port switch' in a SFP casing Yes, similar devices exist http://www.rad.com/10/SFP-Format-TDM-Pseudowire-Gateway/10267/ so it probably just needs more demand brandon

Re: Need help in flushing DNS

2013-06-20 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Is there an organization that coordinates outages like this amongst the > industry? No, usually they are surprise outages though Anonymous have tried coordinating a few brandon

Re: Webcasting as a replacement for traditional broadcasting (was Re: Wackie 'ol Friday)

2013-06-08 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I was at an incentive auction discussion earlier in the week where it > was suggested that the broadcasters see a rosy future with ATSC > beaming to mobile, but there is still work to be done. They might wish, after many years there has been little take up of the various systems created to do th

Re: ISIS and OSPF together

2013-05-19 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Randy is correct But who'd follow his advice, he regularly encourages his competitors to do stupid things. brandon

Re: public consultation on root zone KSK rollover

2013-04-04 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> >> The topic at hand and the specific questions that have been > >> asked as part of the consultation are important ones; > > > > Do it when you feel like, nobody should notice. Anything > > this important should be routine procedure, make it daily. > > You do realize this requires changing val

Re: public consultation on root zone KSK rollover

2013-04-03 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> The topic at hand and the specific questions that have been > asked as part of the consultation are important ones; Do it when you feel like, nobody should notice. Anything this important should be routine procedure, make it daily. > the decisions taken will have operational consequences to any

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-01-31 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I'm saying you put the splitter next to the OLT and then > run multiple fibers from there to the subscribers IN THE MMR That's the way I'd expect it to be done if planning ahead, GPON is today technology and new things always come I can see why they don't do this though 1. reduced build cost t

Re: rpki vs. secure dns?

2012-04-30 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Reality check: I don't know that this is all that important, in the end. > So long as you can use an IGP locally with a default route to reach a > copy of the database, whether it be based on DNS, an RPKI, or anything > else, then you can bootstrap your EGP routing. If everything goes down > at t

Re: rpki vs. secure dns?

2012-04-29 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Thus, removing a certificate or ROA *does NOT* result in an RPKI INVALID > route announcement; the result is RPKI UNKNOWN. Which is fine until UNKNOWNs are no longer permitted, a logical next step. It may not apply globally, initially perhaps just a US anti terrorist measure requiring all networ

Re: $1.5 billion: The cost of cutting London-Tokyo latency by 60ms

2012-03-23 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I'd be quite interested in seeing the MTTR for a sub-ice cable break which > happened in late october. More fun too when we get global warming under control and there's no longer any way to reach it brandon

Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary

2012-03-09 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Owen DeLong > Handing one side an RIR-sponsored > tactical nuclear weapon is, IMHO, on the face of it a bad idea. The > proposal for classful allocation that Bill floated in the thread above > would constitute doing exactly that Certainly a risk but then we handed every nutter with BGP a

Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary

2012-03-09 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Owen DeLong > > We had this discussion on the list exactly a year ago. At that time, > > the average IPv6 origin ASN was announcing 1.43 routes. That figure > > today is 1.57 routes per origin ASN. > > That represents a 10% growth in prefix/asn for IPv6. > > Compare to 9.3->9.96/ASN (7

Re: common time-management mistake: rack & stack

2012-02-17 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I have noticed that a lot of very well-paid, sometimes > well-qualified, networking folks spend some of their time on "rack & > stack" tasks, which I feel is a very unwise use of time and talent. It's not a waste, it's therapeutic, breaks the monotony of a desk job, you get a bit of exercise. Do

Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing

2012-02-10 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> So it's necessary to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and tell them > never to click on a link... That baby was ugly anyway brandon

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Just buy the units that have the pinout for your devices, or you may > need adapters. Hate that, I got a Cyclades by accident, never more. Lantronix is same pinout as cisco and everything else we use regularly. > Lantronix still makes terminal servers? Huh. I designed their first > ones over 2

Re: Misconceptions, was: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?

2011-12-28 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Second, publishing specifications, implementing them and waiting for > users to adopt them takes a very, very long time. For DHCPv6 support, > the time from first publication (2003) until wide availability (2011) > has been 8 years. Are we ready to live in a half-baked world for > another half

Re: Open Letters to Sixxs

2011-09-15 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> I concur in all respects with your assessment of SIXXS. Being a > volunteer does not give you carte-blanche to act like the rear end of a > horse. Actually it does, it's theirs to do as they wish. Anyone else is free to make what they may consider to be a better service. > I don't care if your

Re: Wacky Weekend: NERC to relax power grid frequency strictures

2011-06-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> It makes little sense to sync to the grid when the generator is only > used when the grid is down I don't know what large DC do but at our large sites we normally get power cheaper in exchange for a load shed agreement. When we got the call we ran some/all of the load on generator so the grid c

Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol)

2011-06-04 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> > The original organizers of W6D have zero > > motivation to try such a thing and I can't imagine why they would even > > consider it for more than a picosecond. This W6D is about turning v6 on. At some point, many years from now, when everyone has got bored of supporting legacy v4 for a hand fu

Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

2011-05-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> NAME five consumer-grade commercial off the shelf products http://lmgtfy.com/?q=STB+PVR+ethernet > Proof: go to Titantv.com, select the 'digital cable' channel line-up for > 'Comcast areas 1, 4 & 5' in zipcode 60640 (chicago north side, lakefront). > and check the comcast channels in the range

Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

2011-05-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> No, we're pretty sure you're wrong there, probably because you're > purposely ignoring our *specific* characterization of the thing which > was actually done. I disagreed with two statements:- > > On the engineering side, _impossible_. Modern satellite > > feeds of NTSC (analog) TV signals u

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