Re: Question on peering strategies

2016-05-23 Thread Jac Kloots


Hi Max,

These do exist, at least in the NREN part of the internet.

Have a look at netherlight (www.netherlight.net) and the bigger picture GLIF 
(www.glif.is) and where you read 'lightpath' replace that with ethernet p2p.


Regards,

Jac

On Sun, 22 May 2016, Max Tulyev wrote:


Hi All,

I wonder why a "VLAN exchange" does not exists. Or I do not know any?

In my understanding it should be a switch, and people connected can
easily order a private VLAN between each other (or to private group)
through some kind of web interface.

That should be a more easy and much less expensive way for private
interconnects than direct wires.

On 16.05.16 20:46, Reza Motamedi wrote:

Dear Nanogers,

I have a question about common/best network interconnection practices.
Assume that two networks (let's refer to them as AS-a and AS-b) are present
in a colocation facility say Equinix LA. As many of you know, Equininx runs
an IXP in LA as well. So AS-as and AS-b can interconnct
1) using private cross-connect
2) through the public IXP's switching fabric.
Is it a common/good practice for the two networks to establish connections
both through the IXP and also using a private cross-connect?

I was thinking considering the cost of cross-connects (my understanding is
that the colocation provider charges the customers for each cross-connect
in addition to the rent of the rack or cage or whatever), it would not be
economically reasonable to have both. Although, if the cross-connect is the
primary method of interconnection, and the IXP provides a router-server the
public-peering over IXP would essentially be free. So it might makes sense
to assume that for the private cross-connect, there exists a back-up
connection though the IXP. Anyway, I guess some discussion may give more
insight about which one is more reasonable to assume and do.

Now my last question is that if the two connections exist (one private
cross-connect and another back-up through the IXP), what are the chances
that periodically launched traceroutes that pass the inter-AS connection in
that colo see both types of connection in a week. I guess what I'm asking
is how often back-up routes are taken? Can the networks do load balancing
on the two connection and essentially use them as primary routes?

Best Regards
Reza Motamedi (R.M)
Graduate Research Fellow
Oregon Network Research Group
Computer and Information Science
University of Oregon






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Re: Trusted Networks Initiative: DDoS fallback set of AS'es

2015-05-01 Thread Jac Kloots


Randy,

On Thu, 30 Apr 2015, Randy Bush wrote:


in any case the idea still seems silly.

not if you need to appear to be DOING SOMETHING!!!

Of course there is that. But in order to be appear to be doing something
one has to pledge to do BCP38 and various other things I would consider
BCP. All little bits help.


except the big logo marketing has the implication that all the rest of
us unwashed networks are untrustable.  this is not the cooperative
internet.


You can apply to become a member in the initiative.

Jac

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Re: BGPMON Alert Questions

2014-04-08 Thread Jac Kloots


Hi Mark,

On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Mark Tinka wrote:


On Thursday, April 03, 2014 02:22:44 AM Randy Bush wrote:


and, btw, how many of those whose prefixes were
mis-originated had registered those prefixes in the
rpki?


It is probably a bit of a hammer at this stage, but we are
in limited deployment of dropping all Invalids using RPKI.

We shall be rolling out, network-wide, in 2014, where all
Invalids are dropped. At this stage, short of a mis-
origination, it's mostly longer prefixes of an aggregate
that are not ROA'd.


Great to hear more people are planning on dropping all Invalids.

We (SURFnet, AS1103) are in the same position and I wrote an article about 
the evaluation we did before deciding on dropping invalids 
(https://blog.surfnet.nl/?p=3159)


I would encourage more people to do a similar analysis and start using a 
RPKI routing policy and start dropping invalids.


Only when people start using RPKI the way it is proposted to 
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7115)  we _all_ can benefit from this.


Regards,

Jac

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Re: BGPMON Alert Questions

2014-04-08 Thread Jac Kloots


Mark,

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, Mark Tinka wrote:


On Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:24:07 AM Jac Kloots wrote:


We (SURFnet, AS1103) are in the same position and I wrote
an article about the evaluation we did before deciding
on dropping invalids (https://blog.surfnet.nl/?p=3159)


Sounds great, Jac!

In your report, you mention that you're not validating
customer prefixes. Is this still the case?


Yes, we don't validate those prefixes cause we filter them strict. We know 
from all our customers which prefixes they use so we have prefix-filters 
placed on all their connections.


Jac

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Re: RPKI Dashboard

2013-07-03 Thread Jac Kloots


Hi folks,

On Wed, 3 Jul 2013, Thijs Stuurman wrote:


FYI, source information: 
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~delaat/rp/2012-2013/index.html#Presentations-rp2

Dashboard:

http://academic.slowpoke.nl/


This is the development server. The dashboard will soon be migrated to 
http://rpki.surfnet.nl (server is running, but no data in there yet).


Any comments and suggestions are welcome!

Regards,

Jac

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Re: Lightning Debates at NANOG 51

2010-12-07 Thread Jac Kloots




On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Owen DeLong wrote:


Ethernet: 40GE vs. 100GE


ROFL


Even more interesting is the 100GE Optics debate. Standardized (expensive 
and very scarce) 100GBASE-LR4 vs non-standard but cheaper and easier to 
manufacture LR10 (based on 10x 10Gbit/s on a very narrow DWDM-grid)..


Jac


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