open source tools available.
Bitbucket and Codeplex are another couple that come to mind.
-- Michael Dillon
On 18 September 2011 07:49, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
one to post overly aggressive defensive messages on nanog
I am not convinced that Mr. Bush is best placed to comment
On 13 July 2011 14:08, Larry Stites nc...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Given what you know now, if you were 21 and just starting into networking /
communications industry which areas of study or specialty would you
prioritize?
Number 1 - Learn how to learn. If you can't already do what Scott
Young
The last v6day was an isoc effort, there can be a separate nanog effort or
your own.
It does make a lot of sense for NANOG (perhaps jointly with RIPE and
other NOGs) to organize monthly IPv6 days with a theme or focus for
each month. If you have a focus, then you can recruit a lot of IPv6
.
This actually reduces the pressure on the IPv4 address supply without
expensive carrier grade NAT services and makes the transition to IPv6
less turbulent.
--Michael Dillon
.
Actually, it translates to
http://xnrmckbbajlc6dj7bxne2c.xn--wgbh1c/ in the browser which
then redirects to the URL that you quoted above.
Got to pay attention to these details if you want to keep up your
troubleshooting skills.
--Michael Dillon
instead, they build two multicast trees,
send a copy of each packet into each tree, and arrange that the
paths which the trees use are entirely separate. That means
separacy of circuits and routers and switches.
-- Michael Dillon
I sent this information to the rwhoisd mailing list originally but I've
been informed that the mailing list is mostly dead now.
This is normal.
rwhoisd is very old software that has had no development attention for
many, many years.
Years ago I gave up trying to figure out why it would not
NANOG (maybe it shouldn't be exactly that name).
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/29470/nanog
If you have questions, comments, or want to commit to using the site
for QA, please visit it and join in. It accepts Google, Yahoo,
MyOpenID, AOL and Facebook credentials.
--Michael Dillon
http
the mailing list
traffic.
What do you think? (Probably best to answer this on the NANOG group over at...
--Michael Dillon
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=13566587
.
--Michael Dillon
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=13566587
One of the biggest problem v6 seems to have had is that its designers seemed
to think the problem with v4 was that it didn't have enough features. They
then took features from protocols that ipv4 had killed over the years, and
added them to v6, and said, Look, I made your new IP better. And
a backup of your blog to a SIP PABX.
--Michael Dillon
P.S. if anyone has money to invest, contact me and let's talk.
them addresses under ARIN policy and nothing
has changed to justify pulling the addresses back. These addresses are in use,
i.e. configured in devices that provide a commercial internetworking
service with
packets flowing 24 hours a day.
--Michael Dillon
to the trading workstations, while the Internet traffic is
allowed pretty much everywhere.
You could make various biological analogies such as the specialised
layers of human skin cells or
the micturating membrane in amphibians.
--Michael Dillon
not
be treated as second class citizens when there is enough IPv6 address wealth
to share around.
--Michael Dillon
by colons. The last 4 chunks represent the
interface identifier and the first 4 chunks are the network prefix.
-- Michael Dillon
a federation of such pockets...
That is too top down, and sounds too much like the ITU, a federation
of governments.
I don't think that would work but a voluntary manifesto that people
could sign up to would work.
--Michael Dillon
operators would
actually be willing to sign. 2019 seems like a date the people could
actually commit to, in fact even 2016 may be workable and is perhaps
desirable because it will be within the planning horizon of a lot of
folks starting next year.
--Michael Dillon
and not trying to
engineer away their choices.
--Michael Dillon
this on the ARIN PPML
list full of innuendo and character attacks, you will be booted out of
there too.
--Michael Dillon
the 100Mbps Ethernet
broadband service that many consumers now use.
--Michael Dillon
of diffserv.
--Michael Dillon
.
--Michael Dillon
P.S. If you do this, it would be interesting to report back to NANOG
on how you configured
it, and what are the strengths and weaknesses.
that led to this report?
This is where the claim of runout in December 2010 comes from.
http://news.techworld.com/networking/3227420/last-ipv4-addresses-could-run-out-by-december/
--Michael Dillon
, ipv6 isn't all bad.
On this we agree.
The problem is not IPv6, it is the failure to deploy IPv6 soon enough.
Not enough trained people, not enough testing, not enough bugs shaken
out.
--Michael Dillon
to be camping on except the registrant
and their network is geographically distant from yours.
--Michael Dillon
P.S. At this point, the IPv6 transition has failed, unlike the Y2K
transition, and
some level of crisis is unavoidable. In desperate times, people take desparate
measures, and adopting IP
that the increased awareness of network security that
resulted would pay dividends in business and home use of networks.
--Michael Dillon
include all Internet PoPs and datacenters which
would be rather dumb.
--Michael Dillon
are now at a point where we see that network sloppiness
and insecurity are becoming such major issues that action is needed.
Let's act first, and evaluate the usefulness of the work, later.
--Michael Dillon
be an oversight so you should really ask them Clearly, if
nobody bothers to ask about bulk transfers, then nobody uses them and
nobody cares, so shutting them down is the right thing to do.
--Michael Dillon
discover that your business model isn't actually
profitable because you didn't think through your pricing structures in
enough detail, and some companies more clever than you have locked
in contracts that you really should not have signed at that price point.
--Michael Dillon
to test your data centre
to come up with some kind of vulnerability rating?
Would a Faraday cage be sufficient to protect against cosmic ray bit-flipping
and how could you retrofit a Faraday cage onto a rack or two of gear?
--Michael Dillon
customers. There is simply no benefit
to you or to the networking community in allocating a prefix longer
than /56.
--Michael Dillon
is
cheating the rest of their neighbors then you should turn them in.
--Michael Dillon
On 9 April 2010 18:36, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote:
On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Michael Dillon wrote:
All ARIN fees are set by the ARIN members.
No they are not.
According to https://www.arin.net/fees/overview.html:
The Fee Schedule, is continually reviewed by ARIN's
and what makes you think that there is anyone looking after the
mailing lists any more. There have been few network operational
threads in recent months, and the Jim Fleming IPv3 bot is given free
rein on the NANOG lists. Go look at the traffic for nanaog-futures
this month. 100% of the postings
at present.
This is an open offer. If anyone else on the list is interested in buying the
bridge, I will entertain any offers.
--Michael Dillon
:-J
enough, or else they would demand that
the fees be changed. All ARIN fees are set by the ARIN members.
--Michael Dillon
P.S. When you send your proposal to ICANN, please post a notice
here on the NANOG list so that we can all go have a look at it.
been any questionable IPv6 delegations
noticed anywhere yet.
--Michael Dillon
P.S. A block of /19 in IPv4 is the same percentage of the total IPV4
address space as a block of /19 in IPv6 is of the total IPv6 address space.
that the CC is making an attempt.
So, I propose a new rule: To flame the CC, you MUST have volunteered to be on
the CC.
Right, so you are an unvolunteer on the CC. Why do we only hear from
unvolunteers?
--Michael Dillon
have no problem getting a /48. If you need multiple sites then
IPv6 Multiple Discrete Networks would apply.
--Michael Dillon
to point connections?
The best advice is to use a /64 unless you have read and understood
RFC 3627 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3627
Is there any newbie guide for ipv6 subnetting?
http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/IPv6_Addressing_Plans
--Michael Dillon
. And
the running costs of IPv6 are also lower,
--Michael Dillon
is a good way to get such
traffic both directly from curious NANOG members and indirectly from
the URLs that get recorded in various NANOG email archives.
Please don't copy his URLs if you reply to one of his messages.
--Michael Dillon
would require massive forklift upgrades.
IPv6 is already in place and has been for over 5 years. We just
have to start using it.
--Michael Dillon
in order to continue network growth, most ISPs are in the fortunate
position that their network hardware already supports it well enough, so
the investment required is minimized.
--Michael Dillon
.
--Michael Dillon
the name of such a document
providing guidance using Python.
If someone wanted to play the game and trump me, then they would
quote the title of another book, or at least a substantial website tutorial,
that uses another programming language.
--Michael Dillon
more,
and it doesn't escape the need to invest in IPv6. The network industry
has now reached consensus that IPv6 is the way forward, and you
have to catch the wave, or you will drown in the undertow.
--Michael Dillon
that when a customer moves across town, you can connect them up
in their new home.
--Michael Dillon
the same stuff.
So do some digging to find out what Chinese factories are building kit
for Billionton,
Netgear and all the rest.
--Michael Dillon
On 1 April 2010 00:05, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:
On 01/04/2010 00:40, Michael Dillon wrote:
In fact, consumer demand for IPv6 is close to 100%.
Michael, I think you fat-fingered 0%.
Just to be clear, I'm talking about the real world here.
I did not fat finger anything
thermostats and temperature sensors to the heating system, the
air conditioners,
and the ground heat exchangers.
But within 10 years, IPv4 will no longer be doing the heavy-lifting in
carrying packets
across the public Internet, and that is what counts for most of us.
--Michael Dillon
P.S
.
--Michael Dillon
it.
--Michael Dillon
system of building placement and street numbering.
On this map of Kiev, it shows the building numbers so you can see how
some of them are not easy to find from the street.
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=50.4454261lon=30.5302334z=16l=0m=m
--Michael Dillon
,L-3852744,00.htmlsl=autotl=en
--Michael Dillon
of
communication over the Internet
I'm on the side of folks who break the RFCs in order to keep things in
some semblance
of operational. And maybe someday, email will be known under another
name as well.
--Michael Dillon
to make a long-term design and make fewer mistakes that need to be
fixed later.
--Michael Dillon
that really are business
critical for their unique business. In this brave new world, only the
non-essential stuff will be bought in as packages.
--Michael Dillon
-affecting issue.
By the way, even break-fix changes can, and should be, tested in a lab
environment before you push them onto the network.
--Michael Dillon
, they can
be politely reminded that when RFS happened and that charging does not
start until AFTER that point.
--Michael Dillon
is ambiguous. It would be interesting to see what others
have to say about this
answer.
--Michael Dillon
Subscription info is here
http://lists.cluenet.de/mailman/listinfo/ipv6-ops
--Michael Dillon
--Michael Dillon
How do you announce an ASN?
Using RSS.
Doesn't ARIN already announce all allocations via RSS?
--Michael Dillon
a gateway outside the
Great Firewall.
I imagine we are not the only global network offering such
connectivity in China.
--Michael Dillon
with a /32 ACL.
For a hosting provider, I would think that this strengthens the
business case for IPv6.
--Michael Dillon
a /32 allocation. If you assign a /48 to
a data center site, then when you subnet it, try to maintain that growth ability
if you can. Don't skimp on address block sizes unless you are backed into
a corner for technical or business reasons.
--Michael Dillon
may learn this by
rote as a rule
to always use a /126 or a /112 for point-to-point links, but even then
it is best to
understand why.
--Michael Dillon
that 10.2.3/24 is not a class C
address, and 192.2/16 is not a legal address block.
--Michael Dillon
broker, why can't you?
--Michael Dillon
movement forwards past denial.
Confronting the Reality of Emotional Denial and Grief
http://www.cu.ipv6tf.org/pdf/CACH2F0T.pdf
BTW, that PDF really *is* about IPv6 deployment.
--Michael Dillon
a residential rate.
Charging a customer extra for more IPv6 addresses just will not fly in
a competitive
market.
--Michael Dillon
and deploying a replacement for IPv6 if that is ever
needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy Last time I checked, my
taps were still delivering fresh clean toilet water, not Brawndo energy drink.
--Michael Dillon
Wikipedia, follow it up with ARIN's
http://www.getipv6.info wiki site.
--Michael Dillon
.
Forget counting bits except between /32 and /48 for your ISP business and
between /48 and /64 for your network building business.
--Michael Dillon
and keep billing overhead costs down. Then UUNet
picked it up and suddenly just about everyone was offering a 95th percentile
billing model.
-- Michael Dillon
(for example, after a good thunderstorm, the wireless link will be down for
at least 12 hours, but will fix itself eventually.
Sounds like there are trees in the line of sight, and maybe they are getting
leafier over the years. The only solution to that is to change the path if
it is possible.
with honey than with vinegar.
--Michael Dillon
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On 2/25/09, Jim Willis jim.h.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
After having a brief conversation with a friend of mine over the weekend
about this new proposed legislation I was horrified to find that I could not
dig anything up on it in NANOG. Surely this sort of short minded legislation
should have
and meetings, but once things like BCP-38 reach consensus, how many
NANOG
members would consider going to something like FutureNet Expo and presenting
on the topic?
--Michael Dillon
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