Re: Deployments of Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)

2023-08-25 Thread Phil Bedard
Hi Etienne, Those replies are accurate. There are still some large PBB deployments since once you deploy technologies it’s hard to change. However, there haven’t really been new PBB deployments in many years now. Vendors are also not developing the features to support it any more. I would

Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-09 Thread Phil Bedard
From: Mark Tinka Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 2:03 AM To: Phil Bedard , nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Routed optical networks On 5/8/23 21:53, Phil Bedard wrote: There are quite a few QDD pluggables in production today capable of supporting 100G signals over 1000s of km or 400G near

Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-08 Thread Phil Bedard
From: NANOG on behalf of Mark Tinka Date: Friday, May 5, 2023 at 12:55 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Routed optical networks On 5/4/23 19:32, Phil Bedard wrote: It’s my personal opinion we aren’t to the days yet of where we can simply build an all packet network with no photonic

Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-04 Thread Phil Bedard
It’s not necessarily metro specific although the metro networks could lend themselves to overall optimizations. The adoption of ZR/ZR+ IPoWDM currently somewhat corresponds with your adoption of 400G since today they require a QDD port. There are 100G QDD ports but that’s not all that

Re: uPRF strict more

2021-09-29 Thread Phil Bedard
Disclosure I work for Cisco and try to look after some of their peering guidelines. Agree with Adam’s statement, use uRPF on edge DIA customers. Using it elsewhere on the network eventually is going to cause some issue and its usefulness today is almost nil. That being said we still see

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-11 Thread Phil Bedard
On 6/11/20, 1:19 PM, "Saku Ytti" wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 19:49, Phil Bedard wrote: > As for normal v6 forwarding, the way most higher speed routers made recently work there is little difference in latency since the encapsulation for the packet is done in a co

Re: [c-nsp] LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-11 Thread Phil Bedard
Just to clarify the only routers who potentially need to inspect or do anything with those headers are endpoints who require information in the extension header or hops in an explicit path. In the simple example I gave, there are no extension headers at all. I'm pretty agnostic to IPv6

Re: LDPv6 Census Check

2020-06-10 Thread Phil Bedard
In its simplest form without TE paths, there isn't much to SRv6. You use a v6 address as an endpoint and a portion of the address to specify a specific VPN service. You completely eliminate the label distribution protocol. Thanks, Phil On 6/10/20, 2:49 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Saku Ytti"

Re: YANG module designer tool

2020-05-04 Thread Phil Bedard
There is a good extension for VS Code called Yangster, it is uses a language server to do many of the functions so also requires Java. ANX as mentioned by the other reply is really good for exploring existing models and is very easy to get up and running via docker. Thanks, Phil On

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-18 Thread Phil Bedard
I’m pretty sure Comcast, along with most other MSOs in NA, use squat space for various endpoints because they have run out of public and private IPv4 space. Everyone obviously wants to get to all IPv6 but there are millions of end devices and other gear they speak to which do not support it.

Re: Anyone using Arista 7280R as edge router?

2017-04-14 Thread Phil Bedard
There isn’t really anything super special about it if you know about the memory space on the Jericho chipset and the LPM/EPM tables. Cisco is doing relatively the same things with their 5502 platform, it supports 1M FIB entries in the base memory model. Most of it banks on the fact the bulk

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-17 Thread Phil Bedard
Cisco and Juniper both have working ORR implementations, although config on the Juniper one is a bit clunky right now. One interesting thing is they also allow feeding topology data via BGP-LS, so BGP is the only protocol you need to run to/from it. Phil -Original Message- From:

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-17 Thread Phil Bedard
Cisco and Arista are both able to squeeze a current full Internet table into the base space on their Jericho boxes, using the right space partitioning. Cisco added this in 6.1.2 without anything in the release notes, but you’ll notice they bumped the datasheet spec on the base 5502 to 1M FIB

Re: BGP Route Reflector - Route Server, Router, etc

2017-01-13 Thread Phil Bedard
The vRR image and the vMX have always been separate. The vRR image is what Juniper sells as a solution for control-plane only applications like vRR. It’s also the image they run as part of their Northstar controller to speak BGP-LS to the network. It’s very lightweight, you can run a bunch

Re: IP and Optical domains?

2016-06-22 Thread Phil Bedard
We have a single IP and optical group, but that’s not common at most larger carriers. We have a fairly complex national dark fiber backbone as well as complicated metro networks. You see a lot of vendors tout IP/optical integration around optimization of resources, but the starting point is

Patch panel solutions for 4x10GE breakout

2016-05-05 Thread Phil Bedard
So the newer equipment we are looking at uses QSFP+/MTP with 4x10GE breakouts to deliver 10G. We are not wiring these up to things in the same rack, they will be going to patch panels and then elsewhere in a facility. It could potentially get messy with the panels we have today so we are

Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-02-29 Thread Phil Bedard
-Original Message- From: NANOG on behalf of Saku Ytti Date: Monday, February 29, 2016 at 08:31 To: Nick Hilliard Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX >On 29 February 2016 at 15:05, Nick Hilliard

RE: sFlow vs netFlow/IPFIX

2016-02-28 Thread Phil Bedard
What HW are your looking at our are you rolling your own probes? Router/switch HW almost never does both. Netflow/IPFIX puts the flow intelligence in the router, but with that comes more limitations. Sflow typically uses more BW because you are sending headers for each packet. The sflow

RE: PCH Peering Paper

2016-02-12 Thread Phil Bedard
I was going to ask the same thing, since even for settlement free peering between large content providers and eyeball networks there are written agreements in place. I would have no clue on the volume percentage but it's not going to be near 99%. Phil From: Livingood, Jason Sent: Friday,

Re: New Switches with Broadcom StrataDNX

2016-01-19 Thread Phil Bedard
nor" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org >on behalf of colton.co...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>I was hoping this new Broadcom chip would be able to support enough routes >>to hold a full BGP table, and be used for something like cumulus linux. I >>have no need for 100G, but 10G

Re: New Switches with Broadcom StrataDNX

2016-01-19 Thread Phil Bedard
to support enough routes to hold a full BGP table, and be used for something like cumulus linux. I have no need for 100G, but 10G and 40G on a platform with deeper buffers sounds nice. On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Phil Bedard <bedard.p...@gmail.com> wrote: The BCM88670 (Jericho) is w

Re: New Switches with Broadcom StrataDNX

2016-01-18 Thread Phil Bedard
The BCM88670 (Jericho) is what powers the new Cisco NCS55XX devices. The processor is linerate above around 100 bytes per packet without external TCAM, supports 256K IPv4/64K IPv6 FIB entries (or mixed amounts). These chips are being used for high scale 100G, the initial NCS5508 linecard is a

Re: WiFI on utility poles

2015-09-09 Thread Phil Bedard
There are Comcast people on the list who may have more info, but it’s just expansion of their WiFi hotspot network and part of the CableWifi consortium. http://www.cablewifi.com, or you can go to http://wifi.xfinity.com to see Comcast’s specific deployment. Cable companies have thousands of

RE: Super Core Hardware suggestions

2015-08-09 Thread Phil Bedard
Do you need redundant control plane cards? That's usually what pushes a device beyond the 2RU point. If you do you could look at the ASR9004 or MX240,those are above your 2RU limit though. The PTX1000 or QFX10K or even the QFX5100 might work fine. You aren't going to find deep buffers in

RE: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-08 Thread Phil Bedard
The real answer to this is being able to cram them into a single chassis which can multiplex the network through a backplane. Something like the HP Moonshot ARM system or the way others like Google build high density compute with integrated Ethernet switching. Phil -Original

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Phil Bedard
Forgot to send this yesterday… We use them in our networks along with ASR9Ks and MXs. There are a lot of them deployed around the world doing very similar things as ASRs and MXs. The config is more like Juniper than Cisco IMHO. Being kind of the “3rd” vendor they have a tendency to

RE: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Phil Bedard
The show stuff is certainly there but the config is a bit different. You may have to get used to using the info command. :) They also use logical IP interfaces which are then tied to physical, you don't directly configure L3 on a physical interface. You also have designations between

RE: Cisco's IOS-XE and PCEP implementation

2015-04-08 Thread Phil Bedard
One of the downsides to having four (at least) different control plane operating systems across your product lines. Phil -Original Message- From: Mohamed Kamal mka...@noor.net Sent: ‎4/‎8/‎2015 5:13 AM To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cisco's IOS-XE and PCEP implementation Here

RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Phil Bedard
I think Brocade has one already announced. It might be based off the Trident2+ though, I can't remember. Either way, in 6 months everyone will have 1RU switches with 100G uplinks like they have 40G now. Phil -Original Message- From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com Sent:

RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Phil Bedard
Everyone. These should also support 25/50G Ethernet. Phil -Original Message- From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com Sent: ‎4/‎8/‎2015 10:01 PM To: Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch From which vendors? On

RE: BCOP appeals numbering scheme -- feedback requested

2015-03-13 Thread Phil Bedard
The RFC index is updated when a new RFC updates or obsoletes one or more existing RFCs. The old entry has pointers to the new RFCs and vice-versa. Now which parts are updated is usually left as an exercise but it's usually not too hard to figure out. There is also an errata system in place.

Re: draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-16

2015-02-19 Thread Phil Bedard
ASR9K IOS-XR 5.3.0 Release Notes: IPv6 Support in MPLS LDP: Starting from release 5.3.0, support for native MPLS LDP over IPv6 is enabled to continue providing existing services seamlessly while enabling new ones. The attributes and capabilities of the existing MPLS LDP have been extended to

Re: Low cost WDM gear

2015-02-07 Thread Phil Bedard
Is this for 10G? I'm kind of assuming 10G. What kind of equipment is being plugged into these? 300km is way beyond what you'll get with a passive solution, it's definitely in the long-haul terrtory. If you are launching out of a router the best pluggable optic you can generally get is rated

Re: Metaswitch ax1000 as a RR

2015-02-07 Thread Phil Bedard
I've been testing various vRR solutions recently but haven't taken a long look at Metaswitch, but I may contact them. On paper, their RR doesn't support all the AFI/SAFI combinations I require. There are a few commercial options which have come to market very recently namely: ALU VSR

Re: Low cost WDM gear

2015-02-07 Thread Phil Bedard
- From: Phil Bedard bedard.p...@gmail.com To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net, NANOG nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 1:17:48 PM Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear Is this for 10G? I'm kind of assuming 10G. What kind of equipment is being plugged into these? 300km is way beyond what

Re: scaling linux-based router hardware recommendations

2015-01-26 Thread Phil Bedard
Kind of unsurprisingly, the traditional network vendors are somewhat at the forefront of pushing what an x86 server can do as well. Brocade (Vyatta), Juniper, and Alcatel-Lucent all have virtualized routers using Intel's DPDK pushing 5M+ PPS at this point. They are all also tweaking what

Re: Recommended L2 switches for a new IXP

2015-01-20 Thread Phil Bedard
:04 AM, Marian Ďurkovič m...@bts.sk wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:37:35PM -0500, Phil Bedard wrote: I think in fairly short order both TRILL and 802.1AQ will be depercated in place of VXLAN and using BGP EVPN as the control plane ala Juniper QFX5100/Nexus 9300. We also evaluated VXLAN

Re: Recommended L2 switches for a new IXP

2015-01-19 Thread Phil Bedard
On 1/17/15, 7:15 PM, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: On (2015-01-17 12:02 +0100), Marian Ďurkovič wrote: Our experience after 100 days of production is only the best - TRILL setup is pretty straightforward and thanks to IS-IS it provides shortest-path IP-like routing for L2 ethernet packets

Re: DDOS solution recommendation

2015-01-11 Thread Phil Bedard
Many attacks can use spoofed source IPs, so who are you really blocking? That's why BCP38 as mentioned many times already is a necessary tool in fighting the attacks overall. Phil On 1/11/15, 4:33 PM, Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote: I didn't necessarily think I was shattering

RE: Charter ARP Leak

2014-12-29 Thread Phil Bedard
The CM is just a bridge for that traffic. It has a management IP assigned to it by the provider but that's a different network so to speak. Phil -Original Message- From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com Sent: ‎12/‎29/‎2014 12:52 PM To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Charter ARP Leak

RE: Charter ARP Leak

2014-12-29 Thread Phil Bedard
They generally use IPDR on the CMTS for accounting, and I don't believe it counts ARP. Phil -Original Message- From: Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com Sent: ‎12/‎29/‎2014 11:34 PM To: Corey Touchet corey.touc...@corp.totalserversolutions.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re:

RE: Estonian IPv6 deployment report

2014-12-27 Thread Phil Bedard
The access boxes and BNG typically have protection mechanisms in place. Also even though customers are in a shared VLAN and IP subnet they aren't typically on the same broadcast domain. In the case of active Ethernet you use things like private Vlans or other access controls. Phil

RE: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-23 Thread Phil Bedard
Yes when I took networks as part of my CS degree 12 years ago most of it was socket programming and had very little to do with infrastructure management. I don't think that has changed much talking to recent graduates. Phil -Original Message- From: Kinkaid, Kyle kkink...@usgs.gov

RE: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer0)

2014-12-17 Thread Phil Bedard
Not for basic xconnect, they use MEMS arrays (mirrors). You need power to change things and some do offer more advanced stuff like VOA, protection, etc requiring power. Phil -Original Message- From: Tom Hill t...@ninjabadger.net Sent: ‎12/‎17/‎2014 5:30 AM To: nanog@nanog.org

RE: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer0)

2014-12-15 Thread Phil Bedard
seen a bunch of vendors with 192/384 systems. Phil -Original Message- From: Arnold Nipper arn...@nipper.de Sent: ‎12/‎12/‎2014 6:33 PM To: Phil Bedard bedard.p...@gmail.com; nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer0

Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)

2014-12-10 Thread Phil Bedard
Curious what the use case is where a photonic or L1 switch wouldn't get the job done? With the robotic system you still need to wire everything up so it's available to be xconnected. FiberZone was another vendor who made robotic patch panels, but I'm not sure they are around anymore.

RE: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Phil Bedard
It won't overlap with the one you are using for yourself on the same device. DOCSIS has service flows with different priorities. I don't know if they are allocating specific channels for it or if it's just a different service flow, but either way it is a lower priority and should not cause

Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-27 Thread Phil Bedard
In the post you quoted it says: In my last post I pointed out the do not announce to peers community AS5580 was sending to Cogent, Level3 and who knows who else. So any ASN that is not a customer of Cogent or Level3 wont learn the 5580 path from them. Verizon, ATT, and the rest of those

Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-27 Thread Phil Bedard
or proxy. So I don't think this is related to any DDOS attack. On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Phil Bedard bedard.p...@gmail.com wrote: In the post you quoted it says: In my last post I pointed out the do not announce to peers community AS5580 was sending to Cogent, Level3 and who knows who

RE: Overlay as a link

2014-11-19 Thread Phil Bedard
There are certain protocols and mechanisms tied to a physical medium or MAC layer. If you are doing L3 tunneling you lose those options, if you are doing L2 tunneling you may lose less of them depending how transparent the tunnel is. Things like Ethernet pause frames or 802.3ah instead of

Re: Route Science

2014-11-16 Thread Phil Bedard
Didn't Avaya completely drop the old Route Science line at this point? Internap still sells their FCP appliance which does similar things and of course Internap has their own MIRO system they have been using for probably 15+ years now to optimize paths out of their own datacenters/colos.

Re: Tail-F

2014-11-02 Thread Phil Bedard
Tail-F's ConfD can operate as a front-end CLI and do the things he wants it to do in an operational sense but I would agree it may not be the easiest to use tool for simply monitoring and grabbing interface state/statistics. It's fairly flexible and can do a lot of abstracted things through its

Re: TE offline tools

2014-11-02 Thread Phil Bedard
You can look at tools like NS2/NS3 or OMNet++, but these are not going to do what you want out of the box, they are a framework for network simulation but you'll have to program them to do what you want, they are more used in academic settings. If you want a nice interface you are kind of stuck

Re: ESPN worldcup streaming traffic

2014-07-13 Thread Phil Bedard
MSO in the US, traffic from Akamai (who delivers the ESPN traffic) was up about 30% vs. last Sunday at the same time. Overall it was kind of negligible. It wasn't as high as it was for the USA vs. Germany match since that one was during the week and not after working hours. I imagine the

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

2014-05-10 Thread Phil Bedard
The UK only does this with BT OpenReach since they were the telco monopoly that originated as a government entity. Virgin Media (well all the people who now form Virgin Media) built and operates their own fiber/HFC access networks, the same as MSOs in the US, and does not offer wholesale access

Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post

2014-04-28 Thread Phil Bedard
MSOs run expansive IP networks today, including national dark fiber DWDM networks. They all have way more people with IP expertise than they do RF expertise. Even modern STBs use IP for many functions since they require 2-way communication, the last hold-out is your traditional TV delivery. Even

Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post

2014-04-28 Thread Phil Bedard
On 4/28/14, 9:23 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote: And it has a settlement free peering policy - with a stated requirement that traffic exchanged be symmetrical. http://www.comcast.com/peering Applicant must maintain a traffic scale between its network and Comcast that

Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post

2014-04-27 Thread Phil Bedard
The Fast Lane perhaps starts as not counting traffic against metered byte caps, similar to what ATT did on their mobile network. If the content/service provider is willing to pay the provider, then the users may not pay overage fees or get nasty letters anymore when they exceed data caps. The

Re: Pluggable Coherent DWDM 10Gig

2014-04-26 Thread Phil Bedard
I'm a big fan of the Terastream setup and have done a lot of research into it, it makes sense if the density and bandwidth needs are fairly low and the distances not so great. Terastream also makes use of a LOT of raw fiber which most do not really have access to. Right now only one router

Re: Pluggable Coherent DWDM 10Gig

2014-04-25 Thread Phil Bedard
What are you trying to do? Why do you need the receive side to be tuned to a specific narrowband wavelength? Coherent doesn't really make sense in 10G becaue 10G long-haul is still on/off keyed and doesn't care about phase. Coherent detectors are needed where phase of the signal is important

Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?

2014-02-20 Thread Phil Bedard
On 2/20/14, 3:41 PM, Edward Roels edwardro...@gmail.com wrote: Curious if anyone else thinks filtering out NTP packets above a certain packet size is a good or terrible idea. From my brief testing it seems 90 bytes for IPv4 and 110 bytes for IPv6 are typical for a client to successfully

Re: Is there such a thing as a 10GBase-T SFP+ transciever

2014-02-01 Thread Phil Bedard
That was the reason for the push to the 10x10 MSA by people like Google and other providers who did not want to use MM bundles and didn't want to deal with the expense and power consumption of 100GBase-LR4. LR10 although hasn't really seen much adoption by the vendors, only compatible optics from

Re: Is there such a thing as a 10GBase-T SFP+ transciever

2014-02-01 Thread Phil Bedard
Pluggable SFP+ transceiver. There are plenty of fixed config 10GBase-T devices out there. Power/space in a SFP+ package just isn't there yet. Phil On 2/1/14, 4:18 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Phil Bedard bedard.p...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Why are we fixated on Multimode fiber for high bandwidth communication?

2013-12-31 Thread Phil Bedard
Money, really. The optics and fiber cost is cheaper than SM. The standards around SM optics are to reach relatively long distances, so the transmitters and receivers are more expensive and they use way more power. That being said, I see MM in modern datacenters being used in-rack or very

RE: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Phil Bedard
Have you ever heard of Java and Flash? There is a reason why browsers explicitly disable Java, heck OSX removed it from the OS completely. Flash will run sandboxed in newer browsers but Java afaik cannot. Almost all malware is delivered using them, one research company I read about has lists of

Re: DOCSIS 3.0 and Multicast

2013-11-29 Thread Phil Bedard
I would take a look at the presentation in the other post, there are multitude of ways it can be accomplished and some of those are spelled out in the DOCSIS 3.0 specs. Like the other poster said, HFC architectures are very centralized and controlled at the head-end and the components in the

Re: What routers do folks use these days?

2013-11-29 Thread Phil Bedard
We use Juniper, Cisco, and ALU in different roles. All of them have their quirks and bugs but none have been a big enough issue to seriously look at moving away from them. We use the MX, PTX, EX, SRX on the Junipers and mainly 7600/ASR9K/Nexus for Cisco and 7750 for ALU. What are you doing on

Re: CDN node locations

2013-11-16 Thread Phil Bedard
On 11/16/13, 7:36 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather maintain without the help of the CDNs themselves. There are literally thousands of them, most do not serve the entire Internet, and they change frequently. And before you

Re: CDN node locations

2013-11-16 Thread Phil Bedard
From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com Date: Saturday, November 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM To: Phil Bedard bedard.p...@gmail.com, NANOG nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: CDN node locations Maybe, but I don't use their proxies, I've overriden them for speed. Phil Bedard bedard.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/16

Re: DNS and nxdomain hijacking

2013-11-05 Thread Phil Bedard
On 11/5/13, 7:25 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: I've noticed a lot more nxdomain redirects on providers (cox, uverse, tmo, I believe these ISPs have been servicing a mucked up recursive

Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic

2013-11-01 Thread Phil Bedard
On 11/1/13, 1:08 PM, Gary Buhrmaster gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Anthony Junk anthonyrj...@gmail.com wrote: ... It seems as if both Yahoo and Google assumed that since they were private circuits that they didn't have to encrypt. I actually cannot see them

RE: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Phil Bedard
succumbed to that prompt. Another practice of theirs I do not like. Phil From: Laszlo Hanyecz Sent: 10/26/2013 1:44 To: Chris Hartley Cc: Phil Bedard; Nanog Subject: Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone... When a user signs up for a social media account they generally do so

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Phil Bedard
I don't see that happening. I have heard of a couple companies sending out emails saying installing it violates company IT policies and I'm sure those using MDM will create policies to disable it. It's one of those things which should probably just fade into history quietly. Maybe

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-25 Thread Phil Bedard
There are companies like Tail-F who are trying to use things like YANG definitions to dynamically build a standardized CLI which is sort of cross-platform compatible. The CLI you connect to is external to any network equipment which records changes, does checking ahead of time, and records atomic

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-25 Thread Phil Bedard
the translation into whatever native format it uses, not someone having to write translation scripts which are a PITA when vendor syntax changes, or some new feature is added, etc. Phil On 10/25/13 11:03 AM, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: On (2013-10-25 10:22 -0400), Phil Bedard wrote

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Phil Bedard
I saw some antectdotal stuff on this yesterday but reading their engineering blog entry makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Oh nevermind, that's just the alcohol. This is perhaps one of the worst ideas I've seen concocted by a social media company yet. -Phil On 10/25/13, 6:56 PM, George

Re: FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread Phil Bedard
I think all of the MSOs in the US have long term (15-20 year) plans to also do FTTH. Advances in DOCSIS and coax technology seem to be outpacing those available on the telco twisted-pair side, so it delays forklifting the existing HFC plant. DOCSIS 3.1 requires some significant capital investment

Re: FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread Phil Bedard
That's no different than what MSOs are deploying as well. Using things like DSG the STB is using IP these days to communicate with application servers, VoD, etc. Really the same as your VZW example, the STB uses DOCSIS for OOB signalling instead of straight RF. PON can use a RF video overlay or

RE: Policy-based routing is evil? Discuss.

2013-10-11 Thread Phil Bedard
I'm having a discussion with a small network in a part of the world where bandwidth is scarce and multiple DSL lines are often used for upstream links. The topic is policy-based routing, which is being described as load balancing where end-user traffic is assigned to a line according to source

RE: nanog.org website - restored

2013-10-07 Thread Phil Bedard
Yeah isn't there some cloud provider like Amazon, Rackspace, or MS willing to donate some BW and CPU cycles? Would be a drop in the bucket. Phil From: Michael Thomas Sent: 10/7/2013 19:57 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: nanog.org website - restored On 10/7/13 4:24 PM, Andrew Koch wrote: Working

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-19 Thread Phil Bedard
Tens of millions of devices multiplied times a fairly large download = lots of bandwidth. It has an appreciable affect on the worldwide Internet. I would love to see some aggregate statistics. With most phones the carrier takes care of doing phone software updates and rollouts over a period of

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-18 Thread Phil Bedard
Large US MSO. Our overall traffic is up about 20% compared to this time yesterday, which equates to ~120Gbps. Mostly Akamai. -Phil On 9/18/13 1:38 PM, Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com wrote: So iOS 7 just came out, here's the spike in our graphs going to our ISP here

RE: 10G standalone switch to access in data center, cheap

2013-08-22 Thread Phil Bedard
Quanta is pretty cheap, basically a bare bones reference design. Mellanox as well. Juniper EX4550. Any other features you are looking for? From: Piotr Sent: 8/22/2013 10:59 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: 10G standalone switch to access in data center, cheap Hello, I looking some 10G switches, 24-48

Re: Ciena 6200 clue?

2013-07-03 Thread Phil Bedard
The ALU 7750/7450, etc. routers have a separate routing process/configuration for their OOB mgmt and as of the last time I looked do not support a default gateway. Phil On 7/2/13 7:30 PM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote: So I've got a bunch of Ciena 6200 kit in, with some of their

RE: Ciena 6200 clue?

2013-07-03 Thread Phil Bedard
Right that is the workaround. :) Phil From: Bryan Fields Sent: 7/3/2013 18:15 To: NANOG list Subject: Re: Ciena 6200 clue? On 7/3/13 5:41 PM, Phil Bedard wrote: The ALU 7750/7450, etc. routers have a separate routing process/configuration for their OOB mgmt and as of the last time I looked do

Re: internet routing table in a vrf

2013-03-08 Thread Phil Bedard
On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: On (2013-03-08 18:17 +), Matt Newsom wrote: If you run PIC and hide the next hop information between a loopback which is what will happen in a vpn environment Typical SP network has next-hop-self in INET BGP, and does

RE: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-01-30 Thread Phil Bedard
Cisco also now has the Nexus 6001 but I don't know of its ability to do BGP or support things like Netflow. 48x10GE+4x40GE in 1RU. Also likely doesn't have huge packet buffers. From: Piotr Sent: 1/30/2013 5:32 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC Someone use this

Re: Device specifically made for high capacity GRE tunnels for dozens of sites

2013-01-18 Thread Phil Bedard
I don't think you are going to find something made just for terminating GRE tunnels but the Cisco ASR1000 and the Juniper MX5-MX80 or SRX line can do what you want. -Phil On 1/18/13 12:51 PM, A. Pishdadi apishd...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Can anyone recommend a device that will allow for

RE: How are operators using IRR?

2013-01-17 Thread Phil Bedard
I have mainly worked at small and medium sized operators and we did not use IRR at all apart from registering our own and customer blocks with the one upstream provider we had (Level3) which required it. We maintained our own databases of customer prefixes tied to other customer information strict

RE: why haven't ethernet connectors changed?

2012-12-20 Thread Phil Bedard
There have been some smaller connectors but nothing with widespread adoption. Tyco has something called RJ point 5 which uses standard UTP cable but looks like a squashed RJ 45 and has double the density. Wouldn't save much space on a Pi thigh its meant more for bulk applications. From: Michael

Re: Inter-domain OTN, does it happen in the real world?

2012-10-23 Thread Phil Bedard
Most telcos can provide an OTU2 client interface but there is no peering, they are just mapping directly to a wavelength or to OTU3/4. So it's transparent service. Phil On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Will Orton w...@loopfree.net wrote: Reading about OTN networks, I see that IrDI is specified

Re: JUNOS forwards IPv6 link-local packets

2012-04-30 Thread Phil Bedard
On 4/30/12 2:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Chris Adams wrote: I don't think that will work, because there's an automatic direct route for fe80::/64 to all interfaces with family inet6 configured. The only way I see around it is to apply a

Re: JUNOS forwards IPv6 link-local packets

2012-04-27 Thread Phil Bedard
Just since I had everything hooked up I did a quick test on IOS-XR 4.2.0 on an ASR9000 and found it also forwards v6 traffic with a link-local source address and a global destination address. The destination was a Juniper box which I tried to DoS using ICMPv6 echo requests. The 200:11ff:fe00:0

Re: EPC backhaul networks

2011-01-30 Thread Phil Bedard
Easier to troubleshoot is the main reason but also, you would not put the MME/S-GW in every segment with the eNodeB anyways, so in the end you'd really want a L3 routed solution between them. One of the things I've seen is the L3 interface for the eNodeB terminates locally on an attached smaller

Re: EPC backhaul networks

2011-01-30 Thread Phil Bedard
I work for a MSO and while we do provide L2 services today for wireless backhaul, the services are based on requirements from the wireless providers and I haven't seen an RFP yet in which someone wanted a L3 service. If someone really wanted a L3VPN as a backhaul solution we could oblige them but

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-19 Thread Phil Bedard
The franchise fees in many markets are based on gross revenue. 5% is a fairly standard percentage charged by municipalities to cable companies for right of way access, etc. Not sure if I would call this a profit sharing plan, but it's not too much of a stretch. Today with local agreements

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions

2010-11-29 Thread Phil Bedard
Is L3 hosting content for Netflix? Netflix has become a large source of traffic going to end users. L3 likely could have held out on this one if the content they were hosting is valuable enough to Comcast's customers, but maybe what Comcast was asking for wasn't much in the grand scheme of

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-09 Thread Phil Bedard
I've done some recent testing and while the BGP download time isn't blazing fast, it can load 400k routes and propagate them to 20 other peers in a few minutes. Certainly not 2 hours. :) I've also done quite a bit of interop testing with the other main vendors as well and have yet to run

Re: BFD over p2p transport links

2010-02-05 Thread Phil Bedard
We use it on all of our links which are generally over our own DWDM/dark fiber network. All links are 10G LAN PHY. Our DWDM systems propagate link failures but one of the main reasons we implemented it was our router vendors did not drop link during reboots during software upgrades. GR

Re: Help needed - Cisco Netflow

2008-10-10 Thread Phil Bedard
It depends on how many active flows you have at any one time. Also, I don't think the SIP-601 supports full netflow V5 in hardware, only V8, which is aggregated netflow, which may not be what you want. It does do V5/V9 sampled netflow in hardware. The sampled netflow on that platform is

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