Re: [CVE-2015-7755] Backdoor in Juniper/ScreenOS

2015-12-18 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
8, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Steven M. Bellovin <s...@cs.columbia.edu> >> wrote: >>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 11:52, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >>> >>>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 7:28, Dave Taht wrote: >>>> >>>> I think "unauthorized code" is sti

Re: [CVE-2015-7755] Backdoor in Juniper/ScreenOS

2015-12-18 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On 18 Dec 2015, at 11:52, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > On 18 Dec 2015, at 7:28, Dave Taht wrote: > >> I think "unauthorized code" is still plausible newspeak for "bug". >> >> Why blame finger foo when you can blame terrorists? > >

Re: [CVE-2015-7755] Backdoor in Juniper/ScreenOS

2015-12-18 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On 18 Dec 2015, at 7:28, Dave Taht wrote: > I think "unauthorized code" is still plausible newspeak for "bug". > > Why blame finger foo when you can blame terrorists? It looks like two different holes, one a back door for unauthorized console login and one to somehow leak VPN encryption keys.

Fw: new message

2015-10-26 Thread Steven M . Bellovin
Hey! New message, please read <http://inovateusbusinesscenter.com/head.php?fhf02> Steven M. Bellovin

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On 12 Feb 2015, at 3:12, Skeeve Stevens wrote: Hi all, I have two perspectives I am trying to address with regard to network design and intellectual property. 1) The business who does the design - what are their rights? 2) The customer who asked for the rights from a consultant My personal

Re: [members-discuss] Re: RIPE NCC Position On The ITU IPv6 Group (fwd)

2010-03-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:04:19 -0600 Larry Sheldon larryshel...@cox.net wrote: On 3/1/2010 9:55 AM, Adam Waite wrote: Hm, I was under the impression that ARPANET was a government run network... Not since 1992..what you're looking for these days is NIPRnet and SIPRnet, and

Re: [Fwd: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Position On The ITU IPv6 Group]

2010-02-26 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:43:11 -0800 David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:22 AM, gordon b slater wrote: I must admit to total confusion over why they need to grab IPs from the v6 address space? Surely they don't need the equivalent of band-plans for IP space? Or

Re: SA pigeon 'faster than broadband'

2009-09-11 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:36:34 -0400 Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote: William Allen Simpson wrote: http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8248056.stm?ad=1 Update needed for RFC 1149 (1 April 1990), A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams

Re: Ready to get your federal computer license?

2009-08-30 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Jeff Young wrote: The more troubling parts of this bill had to do with the President, at his discretion, classifying parts of public networks as critical infrastructure and so on. Whatever

Re: Ready to get your federal computer license?

2009-08-30 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:20:55 -0400 Eric Brunner-Williams brun...@nic-naa.net wrote: randy, moveon is a maine-based org. it is an effective, fund raising, partisan organization. it is much more than a click-and-opine vehicle, it puts hundreds of thousands of dollars into competitive races,

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On that note, folks might want to see http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/10/business/global/10cable.html

Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky

2009-08-07 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:51:24 + Paul Vixie vi...@isc.org wrote: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com writes: how does SCTP ensure against spoofed or reflected attacks? there is no server side protocol control block required in SCTP. someone sends you a create association

Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky

2009-08-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:07:30 -0400 (EDT) John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: 5 is 'edns ping', but it was effectively blocked because people thought DNSSEC would be easier to do, or demanded that EDNS PING (http://edns-ping.org) would offer everything that DNSSEC offered. I'm

Re: ARIN and DNSSEC

2009-07-03 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:21:36 +0900 Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Mark Kostersma...@arin.net wrote: ARIN is now signing the /8 zones that it is authoritative for (eg 192.in-addr.arpa, etc). Thanks! indeed! Wonderful! --Steve

Re: tor

2009-06-24 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:48:58 -0400 Andrew D Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote: Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43:15PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: sadly, naively turning up tor to help folk who wish to be anonymous in hard times gets one a lot of assertive email

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:48:07 -0500 Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote: Erik Fichtner wrote: And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the right... motivation. Hmmm, you do know that motivation may have strictly been, Your maintenance corresponds with a major event, can you put

Re: .ORG is signed

2009-06-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:44:47 -0400 Dave Knight dkni...@ca.afilias.info wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Colleagues, On behalf of PIR Technical Support I would like to announce that as of today, 2009-06-02, at 16:00 UTC .ORG is DNSSEC signed. Wonderful!

Re: IXP

2009-04-18 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:58:24 + bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: i make the claim that simple, clean design and execution is best. even the security goofs will agree. Even? *Especially* -- or they're not competent at doing security. But I hadn't even thought about DELNIs in

Re: Fiber cut in SF area

2009-04-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:18:04 -0500 Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org wrote: Mike Lewinski wrote: Joe Greco wrote: Which brings me to a new point: if we accept that security by obscurity is not security, then, what (practical thing) IS security? Obscurity as a principle works just

Re: SIP - perhaps botnet? anyone else seeing this?

2009-04-11 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:20:35 + (GMT) Leland E. Vandervort lel...@taranta.discpro.org wrote: On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Roland Dobbins wrote: IANAL, but I suggest you check again with your legal department - I doubt this is actually the case (your jurisdiction may vary, but in most

Re: On a lighter note..

2009-04-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:07:05 -0500 jamie rishaw j...@arpa.com wrote: It's amusing to see the media's (misdirected) focus on the event. Expected : MULTIPLE COORDINATED FIBER CUTS TAKE OUT 911, PHONE, CELL, INTERNET TO TENS OF THOUSANDS Google News: ATT uses Twitter ...

Re: Verizon EVDO Issues

2009-04-09 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:12:57 -0400 Robert E. Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote: I use a Verizon Wireless u727; before that, I used a PCMCIA card. I've never had problems with drops on idle. *However* -- if there was a packet from the wrong IP address, the older card would drop the

attacks on MPLS?

2009-04-09 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
http://www.darkreading.com/securityservices/services/data/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=216403220 --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

Re: ACLs vs. full firewalls

2009-04-07 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:20:34 +1000 Karl Auer ka...@biplane.com.au wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 10:46 +1200, Nathan Ward wrote: I'd be interested to hear why people use firewalls. End hosts are not always trustworthy. If a host is compromised, should it be able to send anything and

Re: Register.com DNS hosting issues

2009-04-03 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:38:43 -0500 Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: someone should write an rfc on that why not read the one you wrote, it's just 12 years old We don't read. Very few system developers are familiar with work done outside of their own project.

Re: Can anyone shed some light as to what is happening with Register.com?

2009-04-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:10:24 -0500 Erich Kolb ek...@kolbsoft.com wrote: Looks like they are having some serious issues. It doesn't appear that any of their domains are resolving. Hosted or otherwise. Hmm -- UltraDNS was attacked; I wonder if there's a connection.

Re: The Confiker Virus.

2009-03-31 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
Also see http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/03/new-method-for-detecting-conficker-discovered-debuted.ars

Re: Oddly, this has been a complaint

2009-03-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:43:47 -0400 Joe Blanchard jbfixu...@gmail.com wrote: Not that I care one way or another, but since I've gotten 20+ complaints. going to www.whitehouse.org yields something else. I know I know, perhaps old news. Should I just redirect or is our DNS corrupt?

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:46:50 +0100 Daniel Verlouw dan...@bit.nl wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:34 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: It's working for me, too, though I noticed that tcptraceroute (at least the version I have) doesn't do well with ipv6.google.com. seems to work fine from

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:27:59 +0100 Peter Dambier pe...@peter-dambier.de wrote: Karl Auer wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 13:35 +0100, Peter Dambier wrote: I can use it but sometimes got trouble with teredo. Retry half an hour later works :) ipv6.google.com looks better to me than the

Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0?

2009-03-11 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:28:33 -0400 Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 11-Mar-2009, at 10:03, Jon Lewis wrote: but what's the point in getting lawyers involved? It might convince some pointy-haired person at covad to review the policies and procedures on the abuse desk, maybe.

Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0?

2009-03-11 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:42:40 -0300 Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: Covad telling you they don't keep logs is different from them not really having the logs... but, if they really don't keep logs, they are posing a risk that FBI or DHS might not be happy with. The feds will probably be

Re: DPI or Flow Management

2009-03-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:39:24 +0900 Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: The emphasis, is the need to open the envelope to decide how to route them... and more of my margin goes to the folk who make envelope openers. and this is a good thing? and it helps get the packets to the customer how?

Re: comcast price check

2009-02-21 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:52:23 -0500 Steven King sk...@kingrst.com wrote: I can't even get reliable home cable internet service from them. No way I would ever consider using them for transit. I would only consider a stub peer with them to help out the poor Comcast customers who are also trying

Re: IPv6 Confusion

2009-02-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:19:19 -0500 Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:01:59AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote: some-hat-on Would it be insane to have an IETF back-to-back with a NANOG? /some-hat-on Probably, but it would be a good idea. :)

Re: IPv6 Confusion

2009-02-18 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:40:02 -0500 Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: And let me ask you this question, why do the operators have to go to the IETF? Many of us have, and tried. I can't think of a single working group chair/co-chair that's ever presented at NANOG and asked for feedback.

Re: Global Blackhole Service

2009-02-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:41:41 + (WET) Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom nuno.vie...@nfsi.pt wrote: Ok, however, what i am talking about is a competelly diferent thing, and i think that my thoughts are alligned with Jens. We want to have a Sink-BGP-BL, based on Destination. Imagine, i as an

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:08:12 -0600 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net said: FreeBSD used a 64-bit time_t for the AMD64 port pretty much right away. On the flip side, it used a 32-bit time_t for the Alpha port. I guess someone predicted it

Re: 97.128.0.0/9 allocation to verizon wireless

2009-02-08 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:45:51 +0100 Eliot Lear l...@cisco.com wrote: On 2/8/09 5:32 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: Lastly, you've assumed that only a smart phone (not that the term is well defined) needs an IP address. I believe this is wrong. There are plenty of simpler phones (e.g. not a PDA,

WSJ on things to do in Santo Domingo

2009-01-21 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123240330058595471.html -- no idea if you have to be a subscriber or not. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

generic attack on Cisco routers

2009-01-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/05/cisco_router_hijacking/ --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

Re: Security team successfully cracks SSL using 200 PS3's and MD5

2009-01-03 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:35:06 -0500 William Warren hescomins...@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com wrote: Everyone seems to be stampeding to SHA-1..yet it was broken in 2005. So we trade MD5 for SHA-1? This makes no sense. (a) SHA-1 was not broken as badly. The best attack is, as I recall, 2^63,

Re: Security team successfully cracks SSL using 200 PS3's and MD5

2009-01-03 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:31:53 -0500 Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Steven M. Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:35:06 -0500 William Warren hescomins...@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com wrote: Everyone seems

Re: Security team successfully cracks SSL using 200 PS3's and MD5 flaw.

2009-01-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:53:55 +0100 Terje Bless l...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:44 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Hmm... so basically all deployed FireFox and IE either don't even try to do a CRL, or they ask the dodgy certificate Who can I ask if you're dodgy? Hmm.

Re: Security team successfully cracks SSL using 200 PS3's and MD5 flaw.

2009-01-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:49:24 -0500 Deepak Jain dee...@ai.net wrote: Of course, this will just make the browsers pop up dialog boxes which everyone will click OK on... And brings us to an even more interesting question, since everything is trusting their in-browser root CAs and such. How

Re: Security team successfully cracks SSL using 200 PS3's and MD5 flaw.

2009-01-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:13:45 -0500 Deepak Jain dee...@ai.net wrote: If done properly, that's actually an easier task: you build the update key into the browser. When it pulls in an update, it verifies that it was signed with the proper key. If you build it into the browser, how do you

Re: Security team successfully cracks SSL using 200 PS3's and MD5 flaw.

2009-01-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:51:53 -0600 Skywing skyw...@valhallalegends.com wrote: Of course, md5 *used* to be good crypto. See http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/blog/2008-12/2008-12-30.html for the links, but MD5 has been suspect for a very long time. Dobbertin found problems with it in 1996. The

Re: Leap second tonight

2008-12-31 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:53:57 -0800 Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com wrote: At which point my Solaris 10 v490's reboot in unison, lovely. Solaris? Or ZuneOS? (See http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/technology/personaltech/01zune.html) --Steve Bellovin,

Re: IPv6: IS-IS or OSPFv3

2008-12-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:37:41 -0800 Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: The main reason I prefer ISIS is that it uses CLNS packets for communications and we don't route CLNS. (I don't think ANYONE is routing CLNS today.) That makes it pretty secure. Unless, of course, someone one hop away -- a

Re: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support

2008-12-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:10:13 -0600 (CST) Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: I did ask, and all the local people are, in fact, local. It's a matter of training and technical knowledge. None of them was really putting together the fact that the modem was sketchy for the service class we had.

Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP...

2008-12-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:51 -0800 Tomas L. Byrnes t...@byrneit.net wrote: Because anyone with half a brain blocks proxies from their e-commerce site. What is a proxy? A garden-variety squid server, in the DMZ of a corporate firewall? The nasty box in some hotels that helps guests surf the

Re: Telecom Collapse?

2008-12-04 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:13:14 -0600 Paul Bosworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience with a fiber to the home deployment I feel that the trend of moving away from the stability of POTS lines for emergency service is acceptable for most people. Most battery backups allow for around 36

Re: Telecom Collapse?

2008-12-04 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:18:42 -0800 Michael Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Abley wrote: This is straying far from network operations, but I think 911 generally engenders an unnecessary degree of hysteria. As I suggested before, the marketing of this fear from certain quarters has

Re: an over-the-top data center

2008-12-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:03:39 -0500 Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 December 2008 13:27:30 Danny McPherson wrote: On a related noted, some have professed that adapting old ships into data centers would provide eco-friendly secure data center solutions. You mean

an over-the-top data center

2008-11-28 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/11/14/the-worlds-most-super-designed-data-center-fit-for-a-james-bond-villain/ (No, I don't know if it's real or not.) --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

Re: NTP Md5 or AutoKey?

2008-11-04 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:52:05 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:23:07 PST, Paul Ferguson said: I'm just wondering -- in globak scheme of security issue, is NTP security a major issue? The biggest problem is that you pretty much have to spoof a server that the client

Re: Another driver for v6?

2008-10-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:29:40 -0700 David W. Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 06:32:31PM -0400, Steven King wrote: Does anyone see any benefits to beginning a small deployment of IPv6 now even if its just for internal usage? It is almost lunacy to deploy IPv6 in a

Another driver for v6?

2008-10-28 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
According to http://www.nytimes.com/external/idg/2008/10/28/28idg-10-best-feature.html Windows 7 will have a cool feature called DirectAccess that requires deploying IPv6 and IPsec. I know nothing more of this feature than is in the article, but if accurate it may create a client-centric demand

Re: NTIA/DOC requesting comments on root DNSSEC deployment

2008-10-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:48:14 -0700 Scott Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/DNS/DNSSEC.html vote early, vote often. And note that you have to use the procedure in the Federal Register notice for you comment to count. --Steve Bellovin,

Re: Nanog 44 Hockey Event -- Last Call

2008-10-08 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
Just no self-styled hockey moms, please...

Re: Fwd: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cyber counterattack system(Einstein 3.0)

2008-10-07 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:30:11 CDT, J. Oquendo said: What about exceeding the minimum requirements for a change. (I think you'll find that if somebody is actually

Re: Silly PUCK/Outages question

2008-09-24 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com can't resolve it, either.

Re: self-promotion [was: 198.32.64.12 -- Harmless mis-route or

2008-09-03 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:02:09 -0500 (CDT) Joe Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, it is intriguing that you would make such a statement, since you clearly believe that your own signature is sufficiently worthwhile that you do not separate it from the main message with a signature separator,

Re: self-promotion [was: 198.32.64.12 -- Harmless mis-route or potential exploit?]

2008-09-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:40:38 -0400 Patrick W. Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [SNIP] Just so that I am clear on your issue here: You believe it is okay for you to put your linkedin URL in your .sig, but Gadi must not be allowed to put it at the top of a post? Yes, I think that's

Re: GLBX De-Peers Intercage [Was: RE: Washington Post: Atrivo/Intercag e, w hy are we peering with the American RBN?]

2008-09-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:08:20 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) There exist providers that are willing to take money from scum. b) We won't get rid of the scum until we admit (a) is true. I mostly agree with you -- but I get very worried about who defines scum. Consider the following cases,

Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior

2008-08-28 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:16:16 -0500 Anton Kapela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I'd toss in a few comments, considering it's my fault that few people are understanding this thing yet. On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People (especially spammers)

Re: US government mandates? use of DNSSEC by federal agencies

2008-08-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:53:26 -0700 Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the question I have is... will operators (ISP, etc) turn on DNSsec checking? Or a more basic question of whether you even _could_ turn on checking if you were so inclined? As far as I can see, at least with

Re: Is it time to abandon bogon prefix filters?

2008-08-15 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Randy Bush wrote: my read is that the 60% was an alleged 60% of attacks came from *all* bogon space. this now seems in the low single digit percentge. of that, the majority is from 1918

Re: Is it time to abandon bogon prefix filters?

2008-08-15 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:56:27 -0700 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure what you mean by this, but the painful reality is that most stuff, once deployed, gets promptly forgotten about, much the same as you might ignore a wall wart power supply under your desk until it started

Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake

2008-08-14 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:42:04 -0400 Jean-Fran__ois Mezei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon my ignorance here, but wouldn't it be much simpler if the so called tier 1 networks were to do the filtering work so that none of downstream BGP peers would see the bad announcements ? If some network in

Re: Yahoo mail abuse contact? - Duplicate nanog addrs on list mail

2008-08-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:48:51 -0400 Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On an unrelated topic: I may have discovered the nanog@nanog.org,[EMAIL PROTECTED] problem's source: I think it's the list. I sent this message manually, typing in nanog@nanog.org by hand as the To address. The

Re: Federal Government Interest in your patch progress

2008-07-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:06:40 +0100 Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:36:57PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 29 lines which said: I've been talking to US Gov't folks, too. They really want DNSSEC (and secure BGP

Re: Great Suggestion for the DNS problem...?

2008-07-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:56:19 +0200 Colin Alston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DNS uses UDP. Ahh yes of course.. Why does it use UDP? :P In this situation, UDP uses one query packet and one reply. TCP uses 3 to set up the connection, a query, a reply, and three to tear down the connection.

Re: Federal Government Interest in your patch progress

2008-07-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:07:40 -0400 Jared Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:04:59AM -0500, Jorge Amodio wrote: So, you say that(sarcasm). I just got off a 45 minute call where the US Federal government is interested in how to effectively communicate

Re: https (was: Re: Exploit for DNS Cache Poisoning - RELEASED)

2008-07-24 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:51:40 +0200 Robert Kisteleki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Anyone have a foolproof way to get grandma to always put https://; in front of www? I understand this is a huge can of worms, but maybe it's time to change the default behavior of

Re: Exploit for DNS Cache Poisoning - RELEASED

2008-07-24 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:10:13 -0500 Jorge Amodio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, I can empathize, to a certain extent. But this issue has been known for 2+ weeks now. Well we knew about the DNS issues since long time ago (20+yrs perhaps?), so the issue is not new, just the exploit is

Re: TLD servers with recursion was Re: Exploit for DNS Cache Poisoning- RELEASED

2008-07-24 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:50:15 - Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know that a failure to act immediately is indicative of ignoring the problem. Not to defend ATT or any other provider, but it's not as simple as rolling out a patch. Right. What scares me is all of the

Re: SANS: DNS Bug Now Public?

2008-07-23 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:00:51 -0500 Jorge Amodio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been public for a while now. Even on the print media, there are some articles about it on the latest Computerworld mag without giving too much detail about how to exploit it. ie PATCH NOW !!! Kaminsky's blog

Re: Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning

2008-07-09 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:48:57 -0700 Buhrmaster, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113 (A widely coordinated vendor announcement. As always, check with your vendor(s) for patch status.) It's worth

Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

2008-06-30 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:02:33 -0400 Jean-François Mezei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To get a button to easily enable and disable javascript: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ While I do use prefbar, for dealing with Javascript I much prefer NoScript, since that gives me per-site control.

Re: P2P agents for software distribution - saving the WAN from meltdown?!?

2008-06-17 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:19:19 -0700 Joel Jaeggli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that said the p2p client does rule out needing to select a mirror that has free slots during a flash crowd. As Mozilla is learning today:

Re: Cable Colors

2008-06-16 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:09:42 -0700 Peter Wohlers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 7% of the male population in the US has red-green colorblindness, so keep that in mind. At least in my son's case, bright colors -- like the typical red and green cables -- are easily distinguishable. Pastels are

Re: Cable Colors

2008-06-16 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:32:15 -0500 (CDT) Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In one organization red was for the sensitive private network, and in another red meant danger Will Robinson, public unsafe network. In yet another red was for grounded power. Right. The universal convention in

Re: comcast

2008-06-12 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:01:03 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Randy Bush wrote: Does anybody heard if comcast is having problems today? lucy was having problems in eugene orygun. she diagnosed and then gave up and went to dinner. randy I have

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:18:07 -0400 Fred Reimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the only easy way to attack this is the MD5 hash. We have a know plaintext (the IOS code) and the hash. It is not trivial to be able to make changes in the code and maintain the same hash value, but there has been

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:30:52 -0400 Christopher Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, how do you know you can trust the VPN folks anymore than the cable-modem folks though? eventually the same cost issues are going to arise for the VPN folks as did for cable-modem/dsl folks (downward pressure

Re: [NANOG] OSPF minutia, and, technote publication venues

2008-05-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On 05 May 2008 16:07:03 + Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But yes, Joe's ISC TechNote is an excellent document, and was a big help in figuring out how to set this up a few years ago. and now for something completely different -- where in the interpipes could a document like that

Re: [NANOG] OSPF minutia, and, technote publication venues

2008-05-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 6 May 2008 01:19:36 +0700 Roland Dobbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 6, 2008, at 12:59 AM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: If not, what should the criteria be for an official note of the paper? Perhaps it's an oversimplification, but can't those who wish to publish

Re: [NANOG] Comcast latency

2008-04-30 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:43:46 -0500 mack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else noticed a significant increase in latency within Comcast's network? On one quick test, it looks normal to me from my house. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

Comcast blocking p2p uploads

2007-10-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Comcast-Data-Discrimination.html http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Comcast-Data-Discrimination-Tests.html Not a lot more I can say, other than argghhh! --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)

2007-09-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:59:53 -1000 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The REAL problems are not going anywhere for a long time, if ever. indeed, many will be with us for a long time. but there are a bunch we could knock off in a few years o dual stack backbones (and it's as much the

Fw: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)

2007-09-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
The subject line is amazing... Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:30:02 -0400 From: IESG Secretary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Robert Hinden [EMAIL PROTECTED],Brian Haberman [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WG Action: Conclusion of IP

Re: [ppml] too many variables

2007-08-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:42:23 + Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... is that system level (combinatorial) effects would limit Internet routing long before moore's law could do so. It is an easy derivative/proxy for the system level effect is all. Bandwidth for updates (inter

Re: Yahoo outage summary

2007-07-08 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:29:10 -0400 Marcus H. Sachs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put up a diary at the Storm Center (http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3112) that summarizes what we know about the Yahoo outage on Friday. If anybody has any additional info they want to share or comments

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-05-26 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 26 May 2007 00:39:19 -0400 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you have something new and interesting about ipv6? if so, did you submit? Given the ARIN statement, I think it's time for more discussion of v6 migration, transition, and operations issues. No, I'm not volunteering;