Re: Famous operational issues

2021-02-23 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:46:38 -0800, Randy Bush said: > maybe late '60s or so, we had a few 2314 dasd monsters[0]. think maybe > 4m x 2m with 9 drives with removable disk packs. > > a grave shift operator gets errors on a drive and wonders if maybe they > swap it into another spindle. no luck, so

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 10:51:51 -0800, Sabri Berisha said: > Well, considering this RIPE article that talked about IPv7 already.. > > https://lists.ripe.net/pipermail/ripe-org-closed/1993/msg00024.html Bonus points for those who remember/know where v5 and v8 were from :) pgpdrYkPJgCF0.pgp

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-15 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 22:25:56 -0800, William Herrin said: > This particular problem could be quickly resolved if the OSes still > getting updates were updated to default name resolution to prioritize > the IPv4 addresses instead. That would allow broken IPv6 > configurations to exist without

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:04:43 -0800, Owen DeLong said: > Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with RFC-1918 > without running out of > addresses and without creating partitioned networks. OK.. I'll bite. What network design needs 40M endpoints and can't tolerate partitioned

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-05 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 05 Feb 2021 17:25:34 -0800, Doug Barton said: > I am genuinely curious, how would you explain the problem, and describe > a solution, to an almost exclusively non-technical audience who just > wants to get the bits flowing again? "The people who did Disney's software wrote it for the

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-01-22 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:07:42 -0800, Sabri Berisha said: > Financial incentives also work. Perhaps we can convince Mr. Biden to give a > .5% > tax cut to corporations that fully implement v6. That will create some bonus > targets. And how would you define "fully implement v6", anyhow? Case in

Re: Parler

2021-01-13 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 18:41:55 -0500, Matt Corallo said: > In case anyone thought Amazon was being particularly *careful* around their > enforcement of Parler's ban...this is from > today on parler's new host: > > $ dig parler.com ns > ... > parler.com. 300 IN NS

Re: Parler

2021-01-10 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:08:24 -0500, Izaac said: > demonstrated consistently different behavior between them, i.e. the > @potus account is used for official communications and @realdonaldtrump > for personal communications with the public. The former is indeed How does that square with the White

Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 08 Jan 2021 14:10:41 -0600, Richard Porter said: > I missed that... *he says as he deletes Keybase* Hopefully not before you told your Keybase contacts where you were going. :) pgpytCcsAjPkH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Show NOCs: OIG report: Should you charge extra for NOC tours?

2021-01-07 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 23:35:06 +, "Jay R. Ashworth" said: > > From: "Brandon Svec" > > It is not really different than most other tourist attractions. Some are > > amazed > > and curious to see the largest ball of twine > Those would be people who *don't* do this for a living, mostly... > >

Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study

2021-01-05 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:48:47 -0500, b...@theworld.com said: > How much faster? If it took one minute of battery life off a 10 year > battery would that be a problem? 30 minutes? I suspect the proper time units are closer to months rather than minutes. > How much power would a bit of circuitry

Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study

2021-01-04 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 04 Jan 2021 15:33:10 -0500, b...@theworld.com said: > Why wouldn't we just build this into 10-year battery smoke alarms, a > simple radio receiver? First, that means your smoke alarm batteries run down faster, which is a major issue. I didn't bother thinking past that show-stopper,

Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study

2021-01-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 03 Jan 2021 18:00:22 -0700, "Keith Medcalf" said: > This is the same thing I tell shithead politicians and pollsters that cause > my phone to ring. If you wish to speak with me then you can pay to install > your own communications equipment at your own expense. Um... Keith? Pretty much

Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study

2021-01-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 03 Jan 2021 09:26:07 +, Mark Foster said:' > Yeah my family got a PS4 for Christmas. But we've had an Xbox One for > the last few years. There are quite a few streaming apps, true. But a > lot fewer of those than worldwide telcos, or jurisdictions, or emergency > services. You

Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study

2021-01-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 03 Jan 2021 18:59:37 +1300, Mark Foster said: > In my mind it's simple.� The streaming companies need to have a channel > within their streaming system to get a message to a 'currently active > customer' (emergency popup notification that appears when their app is > open or their

Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study

2021-01-01 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:12:40 -0500, Matt Hoppes said: > How would that even work? Force a pop up into web traffic? That's not going to play nicely at all in a world of https:// > What if the end users is using an app on a phone? I'm having a hard time thinking of what app I could *possibly*

Re: 10g residential CPE

2020-12-28 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 20:02:36 +, Mel Beckman said: > This means your staffing must be large enough to never have any queuing, or > you’re giving away your paying customers' time to non-paying customers. > Neither > approach is scalable in a competitive business environment, because SOMEBODY

Re: [External] Re: 10g residential CPE

2020-12-27 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:57:17 +0100, Baldur Norddahl said: > Here in the civilised world we bury the wires ;-) Even the long-haul 765kv and up connections across the power grid? In the US, they're out on towers for a reason - you can fly along them in a helicopter and easily spot parts of cable

Re: [External] Re: 10g residential CPE

2020-12-26 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 12:58:42 -0800, Michael Thomas said: > can go on for days. We have a generator because of this, but everybody > getting a generator in the middle of the Berkeley Hills would be > something of its own horror show, but it will probably come down to that. Egads. Especially if a

Re: 10g residential CPE

2020-12-26 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 17:50:28 +, Mel Beckman said: > If vendors saw a 10GbE CPE market, they would serve it. Obviously they don’t > see a market. Why don’t people insisting vendors build their hobby horse see > that? It’s like they’re being deliberately obtuse :) The number of people

Re: 10g residential CPE

2020-12-26 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 00:32:49 -0500, b...@theworld.com said: > I suppose that depends a lot on what the actual prices of a flat-rate > 1gb vs a fully saturated 10gb. If it's $50 vs $100/mo perhaps some > would say ok I'll risk the $50 overage, if it's $50 vs $500/mo maybe > not. > > And today we

Re: The Real AI Threat?

2020-12-10 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 18:56:04 -0500, Max Harmony via NANOG said: > Programs have never done what you *want* them to do, only what you = > *tell* them to do. Amen to that - there was the time many moons ago when we launched a copy of a vendor's network monitoring system, and told it to

Re: AFRINIC IP Block Thefts -- The Saga Continues

2020-11-17 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:02:01 -0800, Jay Hennigan said: > In the old days on the NANAE newsgroup, such bogus threats of legal > action were categorized as one calling their "cartooney". People who > huff and puff and threaten to sue rarely do so. If someone actually > plans on suing you, your

Re: AFRINIC IP Block Thefts -- The Saga Continues

2020-11-16 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 09:22:33 +, Elad Cohen said: > Did I start legal proceedings with AfriNIC with conspiracy theories or with > facts and data? OK.. I'll probably end up regretting this, but... Is there any actual independently verifiable proof that legal proceeding have been started?

Re: Telia Not Withdrawing v6 Routes

2020-11-16 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 17:36:58 -0800, Sabri Berisha said: > Also, in the case that I described it wasn't a Junos device. Makes me wonder > how bugs > like that get introduced. One would expect that after 20+ years of writing > BGP code, > handling a withdrawl would be easy-peasy. Handling a

Re: Virginia voter registration down due to cable cut

2020-10-13 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:11:53 -0400, Christopher Morrow said: > sorry I meant that: 1) yes clearly it's still the middle of > roadwork/backhoe season, 2) i'm surprised that a single path failure > for their production datacenter was enough to take the system offline. > 'spof' there meant: "Wow, a

Re: Florida: Voter registration website overwhelmed at deadline

2020-10-09 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 22:10:07 -0700, "Constantine A. Murenin" said: > People act like 1.1 million requests per hour is a huge number. > > That's only 305 requests per second! > > Cheapest NVMe SSDs are capable of 160k+ IOPS. > > You can literally serve the whole thing from a single server on a >

Re: Gaming Consoles and IPv4

2020-09-28 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 21:33:56 -0400, Daniel Sterling said: > It is true that I've yet to see any FPS game use ipv6. I assume that's cuz > they can't count on users having v6, so they have to support v4, and it > wouldn't be worth their while to have their gaming host support dual-stack. > just a

Re: SRv6

2020-09-19 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 18:24:36 +0200, Mark Tinka said: > On 17/Sep/20 17:56, mark seery wrote: > > Perhaps all the more reason why end-to-end encryption should be part of the > > buyer beware conversation (not arguing against operator encryption in saying > > that - privacy is something everyone in

Re: Ipv6 help

2020-08-26 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:42:14 +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG said: > The crazy thing is that PSN doesn't (up to my knowledge) yet work with IPv6 . Has anybody heard if they plan to fix that with the imminent Playstation 5? The PS4 OS will actually talk IPV6 far enough to DHCPv6 and answer

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

2020-08-08 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 07:29:49 +0200, Mark Tinka said: > On 6/Aug/20 21:05, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > Isn't this just, really: > > 1) some network gear with SDN bits that live on the next-rack over > > servers/kubes > > 2) services (microservices!) that do the SDN functions AND NFV > >

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:03:15 +0100, adamv0...@netconsultings.com said: > Hopefully well end up in a world where all checks one can do to figure out > why iBGP session is down along with suggested corrective actions will be coded > in some network self-healing workflow. /me places bets this

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 23:04:30 +0200, Robert Raszuk said: > attempt to open innovation into networking ... allowing one to invent > protocols at will as well as setup forwarding tables with arbitrary All of which either get layered onto port 443 or you have to wait for your CGNAT vendor to provide

Re: L2VPN/L2transport, Cumulus Linux & hardware suggestion

2020-07-08 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
(re-adding Adam's text that didn't get quoted, but matters) On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 13:49:56 +0300, Saku Ytti said: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 13:46, Radu-Adrian Feurdean > wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, at 00:09, Adam Thompson wrote: > > > Good luck with tunnelling LACP, no matter what boxes you have -

Re: netflix proxy/unblocker false detection

2020-06-28 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 10:21:47 +0200, Mark Tinka said: > Sadly, PlayStation still don't support IPv6. Hopefully, it comes with > the PS5, although I see no reason why the PS4 and PS3 can't. The PS/4 will in fact dhcpv6 at startup, and it will answer pings from both on subnet and from elsewhere, and

Re: Contact at Ubiquiti Networks?

2020-05-27 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 26 May 2020 21:53:55 +0200, Baldur Norddahl said: > Even the big guys like Juniper fail at basic functionality. Our brand new > MX204 fails to select the correct source address when doing ARP requests > and apparently that is a known will not fix. 1987 called and wants their bug back.

Re: Friday Reminder: Web Site Security

2020-05-15 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 15 May 2020 12:15:13 -0700, "Ronald F. Guilmette" said: > This is your helpful Friday reminder to always pay close attention to > the security settings of all of the web sites under your administration. > Otherwise, anonymous skript kiddiez could show up at any moment and > deface one or

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

2020-05-13 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 13 May 2020 17:17:07 -, David Hubbard said: > LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read. You clearly don’t have > even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that the octet > display concept is simply for human benefit. IPv6 can be implemented with >

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

2020-05-13 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 13 May 2020 17:00:14 -0400, Jon Lewis said: > When you've convinced Cisco, Juniper, Arista, and a few other router > vendors to implement, and have submitted patches for the Linux kernel and > userspace to implement IPv4+ (good luck with all that...and expect to be > met with "Can we have

Re: An appeal for more bandwidth to the Internet Archive

2020-05-13 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 13 May 2020 10:40:36 +0300, Denys Fedoryshchenko said: > What about introducing some cache offloading, like CDN doing? (Google, > Facebook, Netflix, Akamai, etc) > I think it can be rolled pretty quickly, with minimum labor efforts, at > least for heavy content. The thing is that if

Re: Abuse Desks

2020-04-29 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:25:19 -0400, sro...@ronan-online.com said: > Perhaps some organization of Network Operators should come up with an > objective standard of what constitutes “abuse” and a standard format for > reporting it. > If only there was such an organization. A different

Re: 24x7 vs 24x7x365 Re: Constant Abuse Reports / Borderline Spamming from RiskIQ

2020-04-16 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 22:06:52 -0700, Ben Cannon said: > I call our NOC “24x7x365” I hear that in my head as “twenty-four > (hour) - BY > - Seven (days a week) - BY - 365 (days a year, indicating we don’t close on > any holidays). x365 is fine, to distinguish from 24x7x360 operations

Re: The Cost of Paid Peering with Chinese ISPs

2020-04-01 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 01 Apr 2020 20:58:17 -0700, Matt Corallo said: > If your goal is to force companies the world over to host domestically, where > they follow local licensing regimes (yes, including censorship, as well as > data > access), it’s highly effective. You missed the point. There's a

Re: The Cost of Paid Peering with Chinese ISPs

2020-04-01 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 01 Apr 2020 12:47:22 -0700, Matt Corallo said: > No one suggested it isn’t censorship, you’re bating here. Not deploying > enough international capacity is absolutely a form or censorship deployed to > great avail - if international sites load too slow, you can skimp on GF >

Re: Sunday traffic curiosity

2020-03-22 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 13:17:59 -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG said: > As someone who 1) wasn't around during the last Internet scale foray > into multicast and 2) working with multicast in a closed environment, > I'm curios: > > What was wrong with Internet scale multicast? Why did it get

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:43:45 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: > And before you ask, I get "important news" directly. I'm glad to hear you're someplace on the planet where covid-19 doesn't count as important news. Hopefully the news will arrive to you directly before the virus does.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:08:05 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: > I don't know but we just issued travel restrictions to the United States > as it is now a Hot Spot for the unrestricted spread of the coronavirus > which causes COVID-19. Hopefully they're more sensible restrictions than the US policy

Re: Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

2020-03-08 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 08 Mar 2020 17:17:37 -0400, b...@theworld.com said: > Which primarily leaves the question of why this Kabuki theater by the > FCC et al pretending as if it's some vast, uncontrollable evil like > the corona virus etc.? Because even in today's climate of regulatory capture posing as proper

Re: China’s Slow Transnational Network

2020-03-02 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 01 Mar 2020 21:00:05 -0800, Pengxiong Zhu said: > There are a few things noteworthy regarding the phenomenon. First of all, > all traffic types are treated equally, HTTP(S), VPN, etc., which means it > is discriminating or differentiating any specific kinds of traffic. This sentence is

Re: ATT Microcell in Austin, TX

2020-02-16 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 16:57:24 -0600, Chris Boyd said: > Since people on here like to talk about the generatorn run time on cell > towers, I thought y’all might like to see an ATT microcell in downtown > Austin, > TX. No apparent generator or battery on it. > https://imgur.com/a/RY9Tg7h

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-14 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 09:39:09 -0800, Ahmed Borno said: > The thread started with bandwidth surges and now power hogging is > mentioned, I wonder what else might happen as a side effect to a small > number of console/gaming companies not taking a direct responsibility in > how they release large

Re: Prominent horse racing identities (was Re: Elad Cohen)

2020-01-27 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 07:10:02 +, Large Hadron Collider said: > As much as Mr Cohen's minor libel of Spamhaus and ARIN exposes him as perhaps > having something to hide on this subject, Mr Guilmette's message here, among > the other screeds of his I have read, seems to leak anti-Semitism from

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-24 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 08:55:12 -0600, "Aaron Gould" said: > Thanks Jared, When I reminisce with my boss he reminds me that this telco/ISP > here initially started with a 56kbps internet uplink , lol I remember when a "gateway" was a Microvax II with an ethernet card and a bisync card, and fuzzballs

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-23 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 17:13:15 +0100, Bryan Holloway said: > Game releases are hardly a new thing, but these last two events seem to > be almost an order of magnitude higher than what we're used to (at least > on our predominantly eyeball network.) > > Any thoughts from the community? We're taking

Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

2019-12-20 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 00:14:33 -0800, Large Hadron Collider said: > Is it legally a spoofed robo-call if I robo-call someone who has > consented to be robo-called, with the caller-ID of a number that is > affiliated with me but not with the telco I'm calling from? Every 8 weeks, the vampires at the

Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

2019-12-19 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 16:02:42 -0700, "Keith Medcalf" said: > That stupid people do stupid things has no bearing on me. If there is a > legal requirement for these people to be "notifying" then they are required to > notify. > I do not want to receive robocalls period. End of Line. No

Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

2019-12-19 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 13:59:00 -0800, Jeff Shultz said: > I've occasionally thought that a tactical air strike on a couple of > call centers might just convince the others of the errors of their > ways. Having a US-owned A10 strafe a Philippines-based call center is probably a bad idea

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-12 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:47:29 -0800, Large Hadron Collider said: > Tcl still exists, though I don't think they use it for this anymore. At least on Fedora, expect 5.45.4 is linked against libtcl8.6.so. pgpW5_X20d9ag.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Short-circuited traceroutes on FIOS

2019-12-11 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 19:26:09 +0200, Saku Ytti said: > On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 19:14, Rob Foehl wrote: > > > Support claims that it was a mistake, but it's also been 15+ months and > > it's pretty deliberate behavior. Draw your own conclusions... > > TTL decrement issues are fairly common across

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-05 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 05 Dec 2019 14:18:07 -0800, Michael Thomas said: > My suspicion is that the root problem was buffer bloat -- i flashed a > new router with openwrt and was a little dismayed that the bufferbloat > code is a plugin you have to enable. The buffer bloat got a lot better Friends don't let

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-05 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 05 Dec 2019 14:41:30 -0600, "Aaron Gould" said: > Tarko. wow, gaming again ! It's not going away. gaming traffic is growing > in a big way it seems. And it's only going to get worse. Sony has already announced that the Playstation 5 will have a (probably) 1-2 terabyte SSD. And even

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-04 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 17:56:10 +, Rod Beck said: > Can someone explain what is all the fuss? SDN is like the latest telecom > craze but the articles do a poor job of explaining the advantages. I seek > concrete examples. It's called the "cycle of reincarnation". Way back when, a "router" was

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:58:59 -0800, FREDERICK BAKER said: > I think he is saying that companies like Reliance JIO have started with a /22 > of IPv4 and a /32 (or more) of IPv6, As I said - you need IPv4 space to dual-stack. How does Reliance do this without any v4 address space?

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:47:25 +1100, Mark Andrews said: > Why not use someone else’s IPv4 addresses? Really. What is wrong with > using > someone else’s IPv4 addresses if it achieves the need? As far as I can tell > nothing. Other than the fact that a /24 is being advertised out of one AS

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:12:27 +1100, Mark Andrews said: > Email is often out sourced so you don’t need your own IPv4 addresses for > that. > Then there is in the cloud for other services, again you don’t need your > own IPv4 > addresses. Are you seriously trying to say "If you're a new

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-02 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:04:24 -0800, Fred Baker said: > > I believe that Dmitry's point is that we will still require IPv4 addresses > > for new > > organizations deploying dual-stack > > I think I understood what you meant, but not what you said. > If someone is dual stack, they are

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-11-30 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 13:47:36 -0800, Matthew Kaufman said: > User apps prefer IPv6, Netflix stops, users complain And fallback to IPv4 fails to happen, why, exactly? pgphoWWsRXmVA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-11-29 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 23:26:04 -0500, Brandon Martin said: > definitely the lagging factor, here. I suspect it's at least partially > because high-ratio NAT44 has been the norm for enterprise deployments > for some time, and, among those who might otherwise be willing to > support first-class dual

Re: replaying captured traffic

2019-11-26 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 13:29:21 -0500, harbor235 said: > I am with you on the easy google fu, however, weeding through the > challenges and a real implementation I was hoping to leverage some > lessons learned and best practices. Well, it's going to depend a *lot* on why exactly you're doing the

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-11-25 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:46:52 +1100, Mark Andrews said: > > On 26 Nov 2019, at 03:53, Dmitry Sherman wrote: > > > >  I believe it’s Eyeball network’s matter to free IPv4 blocks and > > move to v6. > It requires both sides to move to IPv6. Why should the cost of maintaining > working

Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them?

2019-11-19 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 13:39:56 -0500, Tom Beecher said: > They are essentially equating 'business' with 'VPN provider'. Not at all surprised. Many moons ago, I had a Tor *relay* running on one machine in my home network, and Hulu decided that my connections from a *different* home machine were

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:58:34 -0500, "Brian J. Murrell" said: > I guess the question is, will Disney content compel users who are not > already streaming to start streaming? I can foresee a lot of families subscribing to Netflix *and* Disney+ because neither one has all the content the family

Re: all major US carriers received text messages overnight that appear to have been sent around Valentine's Day 2019

2019-11-08 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:23:17 -0800, Jared Geiger said: > What likely happened is that messages were queued on host to go out, SMPP > binds go down, queue fills up, host crashes. Then someone realizes the host > is down and brings it back up and the queue empties when the load is low. What I've

Re: Russian government’s disconnection test

2019-11-02 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 14:49:58 -0400, Christopher Morrow said: > I think the disconnect idea is actually a good one... I don't know > that I want to DO IT, but :) it certainly seems like a reasonable > disaster recovery planning exercise :) (likely doing it is the only > way to really suss out the

Re: Request comment: list of IPs to block outbound

2019-10-23 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:09:05 -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG said: > > Easing the operation of CGN at scale serves no purpose except stalling > > necessary change. It is like installing an electric blanket to cure the > > chill from bed-wetting. > > Much like humans can move passenter plains, even

Re: IP Geolocation

2019-10-16 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:50:17 -, Ryland Kremeier said: > >I believe we have found 1 customer that is infected with a botnet or malware. > I've dealt with plenty of botnets working as a repair technician in the past > but never had one change the public IP address of the user. Not entirely sure

Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

2019-10-11 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 12:02:30 +0200, Warren Kumari said: > I haven't found the actual work that is being referenced here, and I > *am* quite skeptical based upon the title / premise -- but, I suspect > (well, hope) that this is just another instance of complex technical > material being munged by

Re: worse than IPv6 Pain Experiment

2019-10-09 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 17:43:00 -0400, b...@theworld.com said: > URLs are an obvious candidate to consider because they're in use, seem > to basically work to identify routing endpoints, and are far from a > random, out of thin air, choice. So explain in detail how a router gets from "URL" to

Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment

2019-10-09 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:51:12 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > Owen DeLong wrote: > > Yes, thanks for yet another condescending comment proving that > > you completely missed the point of my post. It's always a pleasure. > You should really feel indebted to me because it's not a pleasure > for me to

Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment

2019-10-08 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 19:12:30 -, Nicholas Warren said: > Sweet deals, would you kindly share your vendor? Well, I just type "128G DIMM" into google, and the very first hit tells me that I can get a 128G DIMM for $1,398, that and 8 DiMM slots gets me to 1T just over $11K. If I have 16 DIMM

Re: Update to BCP-38?

2019-10-08 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 11:53:33 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: > So while the cost of doing the thing may be near-zero, it is not zero. And in fact, there's more than just the costs of doing it. There's also the costs of having done it. Obfuscating your OpenSSH versions is a *really* good way to

Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment

2019-10-07 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 07 Oct 2019 03:03:45 -0400, Rob McEwen said: > Likewise for spam filtering - spam filtering would be knocked back to > the stone ages if IPv4 disappeared overnight. IPv6 is a spam sender's > dream come true, since IPv6 DNSBLs are practically worthless. Riddle me this: Why then have

Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment

2019-10-06 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 06 Oct 2019 17:47:24 -0400, b...@theworld.com said: > All a strictly IPv4 only host/router would need to understand in that > case is the IHL, which it does already, and how to interpret whatever > flag/option is used to indicate the presence of additional address > bits mostly to ignore

Re: Update to BCP-38?

2019-10-04 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sat, 05 Oct 2019 07:01:58 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > One of a stupidity, among many, of IPv6 is that it assumes > links have millions or billions of mostly immobile hosts Can somebody hand me a match? There's a straw man argument that needs to be set afire here. pgp1MMtG4U3Ba.pgp

Re: Update to BCP-38?

2019-10-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 08:20:22 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > As for requirements for IPv6 routers, how do you think about the > following requirement by rfc4443? 3 Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMPv6) for the Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Specification. A. Conta, S. Deering, M.

Re: Update to BCP-38?

2019-10-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 03 Oct 2019 15:28:30 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: > On Thursday, 3 October, 2019 11:50, Fred Baker > wrote: > > A security geek would be all over me - "too many clues!". > Anyone who says something like that is not a "security geek". They are a > "security poser", interested primarily

Re: IPv6 Pain Experiment

2019-10-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 03 Oct 2019 20:11:23 +0100, Alan Buxey said: > trivial-ish (these days) - you have so much choice...and eventually > decent routers doing SLAAC will finally be able to serve > other details such as DNS/time/etc via SLAAC - servers? give them Well... if you want that... > that gets me on

Re: This DNS over HTTP thing

2019-10-02 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 02 Oct 2019 01:55:13 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: > It is a common fallacy that TLS connections are authenticated. The vast > majority of them are not authenticated in any meaningful fashion and all that > can be said about TLS is that it provides an encrypted connection between the >

Re: This DNS over HTTP thing

2019-10-01 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:24:30 -0400, Warren Kumari said: > "More concretely, the experiment in Chrome 78 will **check if the > user’s current DNS provider** is among a list of DoH-compatible > providers, and upgrade to the equivalent DoH service **from the same > provider**. If the DNS provider

Re: IPAM recommendations

2019-09-05 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:20:19 +0900, Mehmet Akcin said: > I was using another product till few days ago (i won’t mention name) i am > not happy and decided to go with something open source Can you mention why you're unhappy with the product? Price, a critical feature that was lacking, something

Re: Mx204 alternative

2019-09-02 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 02 Sep 2019 10:02:55 +0100, Aled Morris via NANOG said: > The forthcoming Juniper ACX700 sounds like a good fit for metro Ethernet > with 4x100G and 24x10G in a shallow 1U hardened form factor. Hardened? Is this just "will survive in a not-well-cooled telco closet" hardening, or

Re: Weekly Routing Table Report

2019-09-02 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 02 Sep 2019 14:02:43 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > If you think we should blindly believe your unfounded statement > not supported by any verifiable reference, that is the > condescending behavior. Well Masataka... If "Owen DeLong, who was widely known to have been in an actual job

Re: Weekly Routing Table Report

2019-08-31 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 09:04:03 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > > All I see there is some handwaving about separating something from > > something else, without even a description of why it was better than > > what was available when you wrote the draft. > > Read the first three paragraphs of abstract

Re: Weekly Routing Table Report

2019-08-31 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 12:04:43 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > The solution is: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ohta-e2e-multihoming-03 All I see there is some handwaving about separating something from something else, without even a description of why it was better than what was

Re: Weekly Routing Table Report

2019-08-31 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:51:16 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > Owen DeLong wrote: > >> With the current routing practice, the number will increase to 14M > >> with IPv4 and a lot more than that with IPv6. > > > > I$B!G(Bm curious as to why you think that the number is bounded at 14M fo r > > IPv4

Re: Weekly Routing Table Report

2019-08-30 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 20:27:10 -0600, Paul Ebersman said: > BGP when under 2k-ish and CLNP for sins in past lives... CLNP? Now there's a name I've not heard in a long time... (Go ahead, admit it, you read that in Alec Guiness's voice :) pgp6ZxG8xNXvp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: syn flood attacks from NL-based netblocks

2019-08-19 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:18:49 +0300, T�ma Gavrichenkov said: > If you're doing load balancing for *outgoing* traffic — and in exactly the > same manner as you do with incoming — then maybe. On the other hand, your servers should probably be doing non-loadbalanced outbound on a different IP

Re: syn flood attacks from NL-based netblocks

2019-08-19 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:44:47 +0300, T�ma Gavrichenkov said: > Not in a typical DC/ISP environment! With the solution you propose, a > perfect routing symmetry is a hard requirement, b/c you need to make > sure a returning SYN/ACK hits the very same machine as the initial > SYN. If your load

Re: new BGP hijack & visibility tool “BGPalerter”

2019-08-16 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:02:41 +0200, Robert Kisteleki said: > Hi, > > On 2019-08-15 17:38, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > This looks like fun! > > (a few questions for the RIPE folk, I think though below) > > > > What is the expected load of streaming clients on the RIPE service? (I > > wonder

Re: RPKI adoption (was: Re: Corporate Identity Theft: Azuki, LLC -- AS13389, 216.179.128.0/17)

2019-08-14 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 16:07:49 -, John Curran said: > > But I suspect a lot of companies are reading it as: "If a spammer sues you > > for using > > a block list that prevents them from spamming your customers, you can't end > > up > > owing money to the block list maintainers. But if you

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