Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-15 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 01:41:17PM -, John Levine wrote: The real way to get rid of tasting would be to persuade Google and Yahoo/Overture to stop paying for clicks on pages with no content other than ads, but that would be far too reasonable. Another way would be to eliminate all

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-15 Thread Steve Atkins
On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Al Iverson wrote: On 8/15/07, Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure tasting is criminal or fraud. Neither am I, we agree. I meant if there's subsequent criminality or fraud that should be dealt with separately. Dumb question, not necessarily

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-13 Thread Douglas Otis
On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:41 AM, John Levine wrote: The problems with domain tasting more affect web users, with vast number of typosquat parking pages flickering in and out of existence. Domain tasting clearly affects assessments based upon domains. With millions added and removed daily as

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-13 Thread Barry Shein
On August 13, 2007 at 10:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Otis) wrote: On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:41 AM, John Levine wrote: The problems with domain tasting more affect web users, with vast number of typosquat parking pages flickering in and out of existence. Domain tasting

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-13 Thread Steve Atkins
On Aug 13, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Chris L. Morrow wrote: but today that provision is: If you buy a domain you have 5 days to 'return' it. The reason behind the return could be: oops, I typo'd or hurray, please refund me for the 1M domains I bought 4.99

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-13 Thread Jeremy Hanmer
On Aug 13, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Steve Atkins wrote: A question to the registrars here: What fraction of legitimate domain registrations are reversed because the customer didn't know how to spell, and noticed that within the five day dictionary time? From what I've seen here, most customers

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-12 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Paul Ferguson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As bad as the domain tasting problem really is, will anyone from the Ops community speak up? http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-10aug07.htm I personally consider this issue to be one of

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-12 Thread Tony Finch
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Paul Ferguson wrote: As bad as the domain tasting problem really is, will anyone from the Ops community speak up? I'd like to but I don't know of a practical way to measure the impact of domain tasting on my services: how can I do 6 million whois lookups to analyse a

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-12 Thread John Levine
I'd like to but I don't know of a practical way to measure the impact of domain tasting on my services: how can I do 6 million whois lookups to analyse a day's logs to find what proportion of our email comes from tasty domains? Probably not much. Domain tasting requires a registrar who is

[policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-11 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As bad as the domain tasting problem really is, will anyone from the Ops community speak up? http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-10aug07.htm I personally consider this issue to be one of the most insidious policy issues facing the Ops