Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-14 Thread Greg VILLAIN
On Jun 14, 2008, at 12:26 AM, Mike Lewinski wrote: David Hubbard wrote: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for

.255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread David Hubbard
I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks today. From two of four ISP's it worked fine, from Verizon FIOS and

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:08:47 EDT, David Hubbard said: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks today.

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:08:47 EDT, David Hubbard said: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread David Andersen
On Jun 13, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:08:47 EDT, David Hubbard said: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Kameron Gasso
Christopher Morrow wrote: go-go-actiontec (vol sends those out, god do they suck...) Crappy CPE's are exactly why we don't hand out .0 and .255 addresses in our DHCP pools. :( -- Kameron Gasso | Senior Systems Administrator | visp.net Direct: 541-955-6903 | Fax: 541-471-0821

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Dambier
I have had a look into the manuals of my ISP's routers. Those boxes can think in /24 only. The split whatever you have down to several /24 and reserve both .0 and .255 in each of them. I have seen both .0 and .255 in the WLAN behind NAT working but you have to ifconfig the interface via telnet.

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Mike Lewinski
David Hubbard wrote: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks today. From two of four ISP's it worked fine,

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Mike Lewinski
Mike Lewinski wrote: The TCP/IP stack in Windows XP is broken in this regard, possibly in Vista as well, though I've yet to have the displeasure of finding out. A co-worker confirms that his Vista SP1 can access our .255 router via SSH.

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread William Allen Simpson
Mike Lewinski wrote: The TCP/IP stack in Windows XP is broken in this regard, possibly in Vista as well, though I've yet to have the displeasure of finding out. A co-worker confirms that his Vista SP1 can access our .255 router via SSH. Aww, that's too bad. I've long enjoyed setting

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Jared
Mike Lewinski wrote: David Hubbard wrote: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks today. From two of four

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:43:36 -0700 Kameron Gasso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Morrow wrote: go-go-actiontec (vol sends those out, god do they suck...) Crappy CPE's are exactly why we don't hand out .0 and .255 addresses in our DHCP pools. :( -- Kameron Gasso | Senior Systems

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Tim Durack
Funny this discussion surfaced now - I got bitten by this recently. Was using .255 for NAT on a secondary firewall. When the primary failed over, parts of the Internet became unreachable... Tim: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:43:36

RE: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Ian Henderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2008-06-14: RFC1519 is 15 years old now. I *still* heard a trainer (in a Cisco class no less) mention class A/B/C in the last few months. Some evil will obviously take generations to fully stamp out. We've faced two issues with .255 and .0: - Using /31 links

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 03:08:47PM -0400, David Hubbard wrote: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks