Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:38:56PM -0400, Atticus wrote: What world do live in? Yes, we extend the life of IPv4 by increasing the numeric range. As for only needing port 80, I'm not really sure where you've been for the last decade or so. There's are hundreds of services using different ports,

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-29 Thread Tom Limoncelli
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 15:50 -0400, Steven King wrote: I am very curious to see how this would play with networks that wouldn't support such a technology. How would you ensure communication between a network that

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-29 Thread Atticus
What world do live in? Yes, we extend the life of IPv4 by increasing the numeric range. As for only needing port 80, I'm not really sure where you've been for the last decade or so. There's are hundreds of services using different ports, and tunneling them all makes absolutely no sense. Yes, we

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-29 Thread Atticus
What world do live in? Yes, we extend the life of IPv4 by increasing the numeric range. As for only needing port 80, I'm not really sure where you've been for the last decade or so. There's are hundreds of services using different ports, and tunneling them all makes absolutely no sense. Yes, we

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:45:03 EDT, Atticus said: What world do live in? Yes, we extend the life of IPv4 by increasing the numeric range. As for only needing port 80, I'm not really sure where you've been for the last decade or so. I hate to say this, but all of you who are actually thinking

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-29 Thread Atticus
I (unfortunately) cannot get native IPv6 from my ISP at this time, but do have several tunnels set up using Hurricane Electric's excellent tunnel brokerage service. All my local systems are dual-stack, my public access server has a routed /48 that I use to broker my own tunnels for devices (like

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:14:46 EDT, Atticus said: technology, and an inferior one at that. With IPSec compliance integrated into the protocol itself, and the hundreds of other benefits, why try to morph an old technology? You *do* realize that IPv6 IPSec is the *exact same stuff* that's in

33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-24 Thread IPv3.com
33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care? As some people (who understand IPv4) know, there is a SINGLE spare/unused bit in the IPv4 header that can be set to 0 or 1. Some religions require that it be set to 0. Adult content is marked with a 1. That single bit can be viewed

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-24 Thread Steven King
I am very curious to see how this would play with networks that wouldn't support such a technology. How would you ensure communication between a network that supported 33-Bit addressing and one that doesn't? On 7/24/10 3:26 PM, IPv3.com wrote: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-24 Thread William Pitcock
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 15:50 -0400, Steven King wrote: I am very curious to see how this would play with networks that wouldn't support such a technology. How would you ensure communication between a network that supported 33-Bit addressing and one that doesn't? 33-bit is a fucking retarded

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
isn't ipv3@gmail.com jim fleming? http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg04279.html (for reference) pls to not be replying to the list when ipv3.com posts to nanog.. -Chris On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-24