Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-18 Thread Leo Bicknell
On May 16, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com wrote: You want to stream a movie? No problem; the video player opens up a second data port back to a server next to the streaming box; its only purpose is to accept a socket, and send all bits received on it to /dev/null.

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-17 Thread Rahul Sawarkar
Ah! So somebody nudged me and pointed out that this is a reference to a satirical story and a standard part of the American curriculum. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:11 AM, deles...@gmail.com wrote: You shouldn't of stopped them I was eagerly ‎ waiting to find out how rtt was going to be

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com You want to stream a movie? No problem; the video player opens up a second data port back to a server next to the streaming box; its only purpose is to accept a socket, and send all bits received on it to /dev/null.

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread Brandon Ewing
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:26:02PM -0700, Matthew Petach wrote: You want to stream a movie? No problem; the video player opens up a second data port back to a server next to the streaming box; its only purpose is to accept a socket, and send all bits received on it to /dev/null. You can

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread McElearney, Kevin
I agree symmetry alone is a bad metric and efforts to build a service, or artifically game traffic in order to create symmetry will likely have negative consequences all around. I can¹t speak for all situations, but I believe relative ³balance was designed to be one of several criteria which

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread George William Herbert
On May 16, 2014, at 9:28 AM, McElearney, Kevin kevin_mcelear...@cable.comcast.com wrote: will likely have negative consequences all around. Actually, pretty focusedly more negative for the middlemen trying to charge for those packets' transit of their networks. -george william herbert

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread Rahul Sawarkar
You mean consume electricity in cpu cycles on the end devices and all the network middleboxes in between all over the world/Internet for dud data? For what? Just to stop a debate instead of resolving it thought intellectual brainstorming? For one thing it will slow down the TCP connections as

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread Phil Fagan
I agree with Rahul, seems like pointless cycles along the entire path. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Rahul Sawarkar srahul...@gmail.comwrote: You mean consume electricity in cpu cycles on the end devices and all the network middleboxes in between all over the world/Internet for dud

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Wow nanog, dissecting the architecture of a sarcastic proposal. Maybe the joke would have been clearer if Matt had used the phrase a modest proposal .. On Saturday, May 17, 2014, Phil Fagan philfa...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Rahul, seems like pointless cycles along the entire path. On

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread deleskie
Subject: Re: A simple proposal Wow nanog, dissecting the architecture of a sarcastic proposal. Maybe the joke would have been clearer if Matt had used the phrase a modest proposal .. On Saturday, May 17, 2014, Phil Fagan philfa...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Rahul, seems like pointless cycles

Re: A simple proposal

2014-05-16 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com wrote: You want to stream a movie? No problem; the video player opens up a second data port back to a server next to the streaming box; its only purpose is to accept a socket, and send all bits received on it to

A simple proposal

2014-05-15 Thread Matthew Petach
There's been a whole lot of chatter recently about whether or not it's sensible to require balanced peering ratios when selling heavily unbalanced services to customers. There's a very simple solution, it seems. Just have every website, every streaming service, every bit of consumable internet