Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-08 Thread Watson, Bob
Carrier oem churn (turnover /agitation cycles) First mover for features happen and leapfrog but the ones that matter get adopted across the line in time. On May 7, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: What churn rates are you talking about? Josh Reynolds CIO,

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Tim Franklin
I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list. It's definitely quite different from the CLI. I'm still dabbling, but the guys here who have been through the training and are immersed in it really like it.

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL :) On May 7, 2015 9:38:15 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote: More like at least be willing to man up and learn your way around some platform other than RHEL without whining if there is a business need for it. -r Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com writes: *grumble, grumble,

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Mick O'Donovan
as well as elements similar to Junos which is helpful. Phil -Original Message- From: Bob Evans b...@fiberinternetcenter.com Sent: ‎5/‎6/‎2015 11:55 PM To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) I will be getting one to try. I am pretty

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Phil Bedard
are all standard stuff and interoperate with everything else. Phil -Original Message- From: Colton Conor Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 17:48 To: NANOG Subject: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Chris Boyd
On May 6, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list. It’s not that hard to learn if you know the basics of IP routing. I just did an

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Craig
yep.. its way easier and faster to take a look at what is configured: A:R01configservicevprn# interface to-what-ever-eBGP A:R01configservicevprnif# info -- description L3 Ckt ID: enable-ingress-stats

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Rob Seastrom
Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com writes: It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many techs to

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Tim Franklin
It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many techs to get lazy. They simply can't seem to operate

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
*grumble, grumble, grumble* Get off my lawn! :) On May 7, 2015 8:49:43 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com writes: It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Trent Farrell
And if you ever need to find out what can commands exist for a certain string xxx tree flat detail | match xxx is a huge helper when learning. e.g. A:router# tree flat detail | match aspath-regex show router bgp routes [family [type mvpn-type]] aspath-regex reg-ex show router bgp routes

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many techs to get lazy. They simply can't seem to operate

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Craig
we do cry when we interview people that claim to have advanced knowledge of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we get a blank stare. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com writes: It really bothers me

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs. Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP for either a new series or a totally different vendor. New backhaul vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, juniper, HP,

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Rob Seastrom
More like at least be willing to man up and learn your way around some platform other than RHEL without whining if there is a business need for it. -r Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com writes: *grumble, grumble, grumble* Get off my lawn! :) On May 7, 2015 8:49:43 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Dan Snyder
wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Colton Conor
have been using them for almost 8 years now and have been pretty happy. What are you looking to use them for? Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Craig
...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Dan Snyder
We have been using them for almost 8 years now and have been pretty happy. What are you looking to use them for? Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Colton Conor
for almost 8 years now and have been pretty happy. What are you looking to use them for? Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) in their network? How does

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Stephen Fulton
them for? Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Scott Weeks
On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Scott Weeks
--- colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com Why is ALU never mentioned, but Juniper MX and Cisco are all day long? - Because they're really expensive, mostly bell head networks use them and we're mostly bell head free

Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Colton Conor
I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Bob Evans
was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Bruce
wrote: We have been using them for almost 8 years now and have been pretty happy. What are you looking to use them for? Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service

RE: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Phil Bedard
: Bob Evans b...@fiberinternetcenter.com Sent: ‎5/‎6/‎2015 11:55 PM To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) I will be getting one to try. I am pretty sure it will support the ol' show ? ,config ? If not that might be a problem :-) Thank

Re: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-08 Thread Christophe Lucas
of a fiber of 17.6 Tbps with 44 wavelengths which is roughly the whole 100GHz spaced grid Well, if you click through to his earlier piece, at http://newswire.telecomramblings.com/2013/02/france-telecom-orange-and-alcatel-lucent-deploy-worlds-first-live-400-gbps-per-wavelength-optical-link/ he

RE: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-07 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
- From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 7:04 PM To: NANOG Subject: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing http://www.telecomramblings.com/2013/02/alcatel-lucent-and-france-telecom-surpass-100g-implement-400g/ -- Jay R. Ashworth

Re: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
which is roughly the whole 100GHz spaced grid Well, if you click through to his earlier piece, at http://newswire.telecomramblings.com/2013/02/france-telecom-orange-and-alcatel-lucent-deploy-worlds-first-live-400-gbps-per-wavelength-optical-link/ he does explicitly say 400Gb/s per wavelength

Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-06 Thread Jay Ashworth
http://www.telecomramblings.com/2013/02/alcatel-lucent-and-france-telecom-surpass-100g-implement-400g/ -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-09 Thread piotr sawicki
The worst thing in it was bgp proto .. Router was unable to withstand 20+ peering sessions , most of that outgoing bgp session to customers , a few peerings , and only 1v2 incoming upstream providers When there was instability/surge in bgp updates , router was able to break itself tcp sess.

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-09 Thread Phil Bedard
I've done some recent testing and while the BGP download time isn't blazing fast, it can load 400k routes and propagate them to 20 other peers in a few minutes. Certainly not 2 hours. :) I've also done quite a bit of interop testing with the other main vendors as well and have yet to run

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-08 Thread piotr sawicki
Chris Wallace wrote: I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly MPLS based services and DIA. Any

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-06 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote: So my experience so far has been good product, good company, needs a real attitude adjustment in the support department. - ditto that! scott

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Dan Snyder
...@iamchriswallace.com wrote: I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly MPLS based services and DIA. Any

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote: I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly MPLS based services

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote: I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly MPLS based services

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Craig
, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: --- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote: I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Chadwick Sorrell
hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers.  We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line.  We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly MPLS based services and DIA.  Any comments are welcome,  good and bad

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- mirot...@gmail.com wrote: I'll have to second everything everyone is saying. Absolutely pleased with everything about them. Just wish I had more 7750s instead of 7450s. -- That reminds me of one thing that adds more complexity. We carry our

Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Jay Nakamura
Hello all, Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in the detail and you just never know what wall you run into until you actually try it so I wanted to see if anyone has used this and can point out

Re: Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in the detail and you just never know what wall you run into until you actually try it so I wanted to see if anyone

RE: Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Eric RICHARD
interface Really good feedbacks to provide . If you need further detail I can share. Eric -Message d'origine- De : Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2009 16:56 À : NANOG Objet : Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick Hello all, Looking for input on Alcatel

Re: Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick.  I can look up spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in the detail and you just

Re: Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick.  I can look up spec and other published information

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent

2008-05-14 Thread michael.dillon
vendor ears == ON Hopefully... ;-) Not likely! This is a motley crew of people who like to jabber, not a forum for your favorite vendor's customer support. I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to pay an order of magnitude more for an IOM. May I suggest that you will

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent

2008-05-13 Thread Kevin Billings
To run IPV6 on a 7750 you will need the new IOM 2 cards. They do cost a few $$$ more... -Original Message- From: Scott Weeks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From