Re: BGP peering question

Okay I will just throw this, in addition to what the others have said. From an ISP point of view, assuming the neighbor is able to provision their end of the cross-connect, you need to check the common POP cost requirements, and also consider if the neighbor is willing to either pay for the

Re: BGP peering question

: Martin Hannigan <hanni...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:41 PM To: craig washington Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: BGP peering question On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:12 PM, craig washington <craigwashingto...@hotmail.com<mailto:craigwashingto...@hotmail.com>> wrot

Re: BGP peering question

Hi, I'm not sure if this is mentioned already but here goes, You need to understand the difference between peering and a direct interconnect. with an interconnect you have to think about is the traffic enough to "dedicate" a port for that connection on your edge. ( cost of port vs cost if you

Re: BGP peering question

If you develop a well tuned process for creating BGP sessions and even a moderate system for monitoring not the individual sessions, but meaningful traffic events on your network, then, maintaining a large number of peers and a promiscuous peering policy is not such a daunting process. As a

Re: BGP peering question

Speaking as a small ISP with 10 to 20 Gbps peak traffic. We are heavy inbound as a pure eyeball network. We use the route servers. We only maintain direct BGP sessions with a few large peers. Think Google, Netflix, Akamai etc. The reason for this is simply administrative overhead. Every BGP

Re: BGP peering question

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:12 PM, craig washington < craigwashingto...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > > Newbie question, what criteria do you look for when you decide that you > want to peer with someone or if you will accept peering with someone from > an ISP point of view. > You didn't say

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Is your AS registered with ARIN?2 byte or 4 byte ASN number?How many devices are you peering with?Dual homed, multi homed?Bandwidth?Type of traffic? There are alot more... Regards,Cyrus Ramirez   On Wednesday, July 12, 2017, 3:11:38 PM EDT, David Hofstee wrote:

Re: BGP peering question

I would state that peering gives more control over the traffic you handle (since it is not going over someone else's network). Every hop is a possible problem to your operations, I guess. David On 12 July 2017 at 09:13, Wolfgang Tremmel wrote: > > > On 11. Jul

Re: BGP peering question

* craig washington > Newbie question, what criteria do you look for when you decide that > you want to peer with someone or if you will accept peering with > someone from an ISP point of view. Routing hygiene. I expect the would-be peer to keep the number of advertised routes that are either 1)

Re: BGP peering question

> On 11. Jul 2017, at 21:43, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: >> 1) Are they present an IX where I am present? >> >> 2) Can they configure BGP correctly? >> >> 3) … Beer? > > > 1) do they have a pulse? 4 ) are they in PeeringDB and keep their entry up to

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Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > 1) Are they present an IX where I am present? > > 2) Can they configure BGP correctly? > > 3) … Beer? Naah, way overthought. I prefer the traditional: 1) do they have a pulse? Nick

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On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > Then you need to decide if you want to be a hop between those two peers > or if you want them to serve you only. You can change your routing so that > both providers know of your routes but you are not sharing

Re: BGP peering question

> Then you need to decide if you want to be a hop between those two peers or if > you want them to serve you only. You can change your routing so that both > providers know of your routes but you are not sharing routes between the two > providers. The definition of “peering” to most ISPs would

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craig washington wrote: > Newbie question, what criteria do you look for when you decide that > you want to peer with someone or if you will accept peering with > someone from an ISP point of view. If you're new to the game, peer with everyone you can and use route servers aggressively. You have

Re: BGP peering question

Considering the wording you use, I would include this, 'Peering' is not always necessary. If you can get an upstream provider to give you a pack of IP's and it is sufficient to just use them as a gateway instead of setting up peering that would be preferred. If you decide you want to have

Re: BGP peering question

There is one more thing to consider based on your app or content latency criteria needs. Do you provide a service that performs better with low latency - such as live desktop, live video/voice. You may wish to peer to have more control and more direct path to your customer base. If you identify

Re: BGP peering question

* br...@shout.net (Bryan Holloway) [Tue 11 Jul 2017, 19:28 CEST]: Also worth looking at your telemetries to see if it makes sense from an inbound/outbound point of view. That is, you'll get more bang for your buck if you're eyeballs and peering with a content provider (or vice versa), as

Re: BGP peering question

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:12 PM, craig washington < craigwashingto...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Newbie question, what criteria do you look for when you decide that you > want to peer with someone or if you will accept peering with someone from > an ISP point of view. I assume you mean "reciprocal

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Also worth looking at your telemetries to see if it makes sense from an inbound/outbound point of view. That is, you'll get more bang for your buck if you're eyeballs and peering with a content provider (or vice versa), as opposed to eyeballs <-> eyeballs or content <-> content. On 7/11/17

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1) Are they present an IX where I am present? 2) Can they configure BGP correctly? 3) … Beer? Private interconnect requires actual thinking. Putting a procedure in around public peering is just overhead we don’t need. -- TTFN, patrick > On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:12 PM, craig washington

BGP peering question

Hello, Newbie question, what criteria do you look for when you decide that you want to peer with someone or if you will accept peering with someone from an ISP point of view. Thanks.