On 4/8/10 8:02 PM, John Curran wrote:
On Apr 8, 2010, at 7:51 PM, David Conrad wrote:
In the cases I'm aware of (which were some time ago), there was (to my
knowledge) no fraud involved.
If you see more recent cases of this occurring, please report them.
Or are you indicating the
Or are you indicating the mechanisms I described are in some way
fraudulent?
Potentially, yes.
pfui. the current security level is chartreuse. you will get 15,000
free flier miles for spying on your neighbor.
john, addresses are assets. people will transfer assets. get over it.
two
On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
john, addresses are assets. ...
Randy - You may believe that IP addresses are assets; feel free to do so.
ARIN's position follows RFC 2008 and RFC 2050 and will continue to do so
until the community directs otherwise. For the legal discussion,
The question discussed is the practice of performing resource review
as a result of fraudulent applications.
no. what was being discussed was transfers. you turned left, asserted
that they were fraudulent, and told people to turn in their neighbors.
randy
John,
On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:43 AM, John Curran wrote:
ARIN's position follows RFC 2008
This seems to be contradicted by ARIN's (perfectly reasonable) policies
regarding the assignment of provider independent address space to end users.
As to whether addresses are assets, I suspect we'll have
On Apr 9, 2010, at 12:20 PM, David Conrad wrote:
The question discussed is the practice of performing resource review as a
result of fraudulent applications.
Actually, no. The question was whether the practice of creating a company to
hold IP addresses then selling that company to
The question discussed is the practice of performing resource review
as a result of fraudulent applications.
no. what was being discussed was transfers. you turned left, asserted
that they were fraudulent, and told people to turn in their neighbors.
If a company can justify a /?? with
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 03:14:50PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:37 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 02:22:29PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Mr. James W. Laferriere
Try that fee while trying to
BIll,
On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:39 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
If you're not planning to announce a route into the DFZ, we have
RFC1918 or IPv6's ULA, address pools that are 100% and completely free
for your use.
er... you misunderstand... there is no single DFZ anywhere...
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 09:51:47AM -1000, David Conrad wrote:
BIll,
On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:39 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
If you're not planning to announce a route into the DFZ, we have
RFC1918 or IPv6's ULA, address pools that are 100% and completely free
for your use.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:39 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
er... you misunderstand... there is no single DFZ anywhere...
it is a fiction.
Meh. Fiction or no, it does a suitably effective job connecting my
users to my servers when and where they want to connect.
On Apr 8, 2010, at 3:51 PM, David Conrad wrote:
Sure they are. I personally know of several cases where addresses have been
sold. Right now, people have to go through a bunch of foo, creating dummy
companies to hold the IP address assets, transferring the assets, selling the
dummy
John,
In the cases I'm aware of (which were some time ago), there was (to my
knowledge) no fraud involved.
Or are you indicating the mechanisms I described are in some way fraudulent?
Regards,
-drc
On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:46 PM, John Curran wrote:
On Apr 8, 2010, at 3:51 PM, David Conrad
On Apr 8, 2010, at 7:51 PM, David Conrad wrote:
John,
In the cases I'm aware of (which were some time ago), there was (to my
knowledge) no fraud involved.
If you see more recent cases of this occurring, please report them.
Or are you indicating the mechanisms I described are in some way
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