Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-20 Thread Mark Tinka
Ultimately, I think every vendor will have customers with good experiences, and customers with not-so-good experiences. Without sufficient data, it is hard to say which vendor, in general, does a good job for their customer base re: TAC. What I will say, albeit anecdotally also, is that TAC

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-14 Thread Pascal Masha
The only issue,that I have experienced, with Nokia TAC is throwing stuff from team to team and before you get things done, each team has blamed the other team. On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 at 01:43, scott via NANOG wrote: > > > In light of this thread's contents, I have to give a shout out to Nokia >

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-14 Thread Justin H.
Richard Laager wrote: FWIW, I haven't tried calling after hours. If I have to call after-hours, I get an answer from someone who is going to be handling my case (assuming that it doesn't have an engineer who's on-shift already assigned to it).  Yes, after-hours has traditionally been when I

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-13 Thread scott via NANOG
In light of this thread's contents, I have to give a shout out to Nokia TAC. Maybe because we buy a lotta stuff and have a lotta maint contracts, but they don't do things like what has been mentioned. Of course, I see some stuff from Level 1 folks where I think 'whaaat???' but they

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-12 Thread Crist Clark
I've been reading the "${VENDOR}'s support has really gotten worse lately" threads for pretty much every vendor for the past twenty years. That's not to say they've all been wrong. But it reminds me of those quotes you'll see about how "these kids today are awful and society is going to pot" and

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-12 Thread Curtis L. Parish
We were one of the earlier adopters of Cisco ACI. Any issues with ACI were automatically escalated to an engineer that could fix almost anything.Now ACI tickets seem to go though a generic queue and the tech doesn't even know how to spell ACI. We continue to have the same type of

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-12 Thread Lyden, John C
> when a TAC engineer wanted to bounce our Voice VLAN SVI in the middle of an > *airport* production day. > I about turned over my desk trying to wrest the remote control session back > from him before he hit enter > on the shut. Since then, I have had to go through a not insignificant >

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread joel
> On Mar 11, 2024, at 12:54, michael brooks - ESC > wrote: > >> It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is >> sublime. If something is critical enough, and you push hard enough, Cisco >> will move heaven and earth to solve your issue. > > >This was an amazing

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread joel
You sir, not wrong. > On Mar 11, 2024, at 10:04, michael brooks - ESC > wrote: > > > >It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is > >sublime. If something is critical enough, and you push hard enough, Cisco > >will move heaven and earth to solve your issue. > >

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread Richard Laager
On 2024-03-07 05:08, Pedro Prado wrote: * I am biased, I’m from Arista * but having said that have you guys experienced Arista TAC? Yes. As you guys said scale may change things down the road, but at the current scale it’s still an engineer that answers your call, straight away. I think

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread michael brooks - ESC
> > It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is > sublime. If something is critical enough, and you push hard enough, Cisco > will move heaven and earth to solve your issue. > >This was an amazing laugh on a Monday morning. Thanks! O crap, did I miss the sarcasm?

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, michael brooks - ESC said: > Strap in for an "I remember when" ... My Cisco TAC experiences (which were few) were not great... probably around 2000 I opened a case with all the details, it was assigned, and promptly closed "can't reproduce". I didn't have a real lab setup, but

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread Tom Beecher
> > It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is > sublime. If something is critical enough, and you push hard enough, Cisco > will move heaven and earth to solve your issue. > This was an amazing laugh on a Monday morning. Thanks! On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 2:47 PM Joel

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread michael brooks - ESC
You are missing the point, we opened the case 3 months ago michael brooks On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 8:24 AM wrote: > To be honest, if your DR environment has been offline for 3 months and you > are just now opening a case, I would not consider that critical. > > Shane > > On Mar 11, 2024, at

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread sronan
To be honest, if your DR environment has been offline for 3 months and you are just now opening a case, I would not consider that critical.ShaneOn Mar 11, 2024, at 10:08 AM, michael brooks - ESC wrote:>It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is sublime.  If something

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-11 Thread michael brooks - ESC
>It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is sublime. If something is critical enough, and you push hard enough, Cisco will move heaven and earth to solve your issue. But is this not the problem itself? Strap in for an "I remember when" ... Once upon a time, I could

RE: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-09 Thread John van Oppen
: Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is sublime. If something is critical enough, and you push hard enough, Cisco will move heaven and earth to solve your issue.

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-07 Thread Joel Esler
It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is sublime.  If something is critical enough, and you push hard enough, Cisco will move heaven and earth to solve your issue.  — Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 6, 2024, at 13:42, Pascal Masha wrote:For us this has been the experience

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-07 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:49 PM, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: Hi, > Support quality has always been very modest, unless you specifically > pay to have access to named engineers. And this is not because quality > of the engineers changes, this is because vast majority of support > cases are

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-07 Thread Pedro Prado
* I am biased, I’m from Arista * but having said that have you guys experienced Arista TAC? Not propaganda, I truly see it very differently. As you guys said scale may change things down the road, but at the current scale it’s still an engineer that answers your call, straight away. Sent from

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-07 Thread Pascal Masha
With all honesty, if you ask me, my experience with most companies from China-in relation to Support- has always been fast and super satisfactory no matter the raised case or sensitivity of the impact to users. I have always felt comfortable running their gear and gives some sort of confidence in

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-07 Thread Giorgio Bonfiglio via NANOG
> On 7 Mar 2024, at 06:50, Saku Ytti wrote: > > The last case is so common that every first-line adopts the strategy of > 'pinging' you, regardless how good and clear information you provide, they > ask some soft-ball question, to see if you're still engaged. No way - I never understood

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 22:57, michael brooks - ESC wrote: > Funny you should mention this now, we were just discussing (more like > lamenting...) if support is a dying industry. It seems as though vendor > budgets are shrinking to the point they only have a Sales/Pre-Sales > department, and

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-06 Thread michael brooks - ESC
Funny you should mention this now, we were just discussing (more like lamenting...) if support is a dying industry. It seems as though vendor budgets are shrinking to the point they only have a Sales/Pre-Sales department, and from Day Two on you are on your own. Dramatic take of course, but if we

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-06 Thread Pascal Masha
For us this has been the experience to a point where 100s of nodes( from vendor x) had to be swapped out because no one had the patience anymore… On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 21:29, wrote: > Interesting, this has never been my experience even with Cisco or Juniper, > have always been able to escalate

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-06 Thread sronan
Interesting, this has never been my experience even with Cisco or Juniper, have always been able to escalate quickly to engineering. I wonder if it was related to the size of my accounts. Shane > On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:27 PM, Pascal Masha wrote: > > Thought about it but so far I believe

Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

2024-03-06 Thread Pascal Masha
Thought about it but so far I believe companies from China provide better and fast TAC responses to their customers than the likes of Cisco and perhaps that’s why some companies(where there are no restrictions)prefer them for critical services. For a short period in TAC call you can have over 10