Re: CDN Overload?

Mike, you might want to reference this thread - http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2016-July/thread.html#87147 - as another data point. LLNW was sending data at levels ~ 10x greater than my policed DSL user's subscription rates. It seems to me that either the client or the server TCP

Re: CDN Overload?

016 18:29:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: CDN Overload? Mike, I have the right contact there and I'll flag this thread that way in case they havent already seen it. Best, Martin Hannigan AS 20940 // AS 32787 On Thursday, September 22, 2016, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: &

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;, NANOG < > nanog@nanog.org <javascript:;>> > Sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:28:17 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: Re: CDN Overload? > > > I have seen traffic from Microsoft in Europe to single hosts on our > campus that seemed to be unusually (high bps) and

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2016 16:28:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: CDN Overload? I have seen traffic from Microsoft in Europe to single hosts on our campus that seemed to be unusually (high bps) and long. I don’t recall if the few multiple hosts I noticed this on over time were only on our campus wifi. If not perhaps the

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ke Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:19:35 PM > Subject: Re: CDN Overload? > > > > > > Mike, > > > I will forward to the requisite group for a look. Have yo

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..@ics-il.net> > Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:19:35 PM > Subject: Re: CDN Overload? > > > Mike, > > I will forward to the requisite group for a look. Have you brought this to > our attention previously? I

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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:19:35 PM Subject: Re: CDN Overload? Mike, I will forward to the requisite group for a look. Have you brought this to our attention previously? I don't see anything. If you did, please forward me the ticket numbers or message(s) (peering@ is best) so we

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Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:08:55 AM &g

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more platforms. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:08:

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:: I have made this into a Google Form to make it easier to :: track compared to randomly formatted responses on multiple :: mailing lists, Facebook Groups, etc. Yeah, because... but I don't do email like that why is it hard to read? it's really hard to read email this way. because it's

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nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:32:58 AM Subject: Re: CDN Overload? It appears all complaints are from SP doing wireless. I am going to go with a yes and put forth a these that these guys have a common factor somewhere. It could be equipment from a some popular vendor of w

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It appears all complaints are from SP doing wireless. I am going to go with a yes and put forth a these that these guys have a common factor somewhere. It could be equipment from a some popular vendor of wireless or maybe some common method to throttle that is popular in the wireless community. I

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WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 12:34:48 PM Subject: CDN Overload? I participate on a few other mailing lists focused on eyeball networks. For a couple ye

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;baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:02:30 AM Subject: Re: CDN Overload? How come we have never seen this problem? We have a ton of DSL and many of those are slow, but no customer complaints about overloaded lines from CDN networks. Could it be

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How come we have never seen this problem? We have a ton of DSL and many of those are slow, but no customer complaints about overloaded lines from CDN networks. Could it be that the way you throttle the bandwidth is defect? It is easy to blame the other guy but could it be that you are doing

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* Jon Lewis: > This is kind of a funny problem though, because CDNs get paid to > deliver data, and they get compared/graded according to who can > deliver the bits the fastest...and here you are complaining that > they're delivering the bits too fast (or at least faster than you'd > like them

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Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 12:34:48 PM Subject: CDN Overload? I participate on a few other mailing lists focused on

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@cbcast.com> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:44:24 AM Subject: Re: CDN Overload? On 20 Sep 2016 9:14 am, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: > > Now lets move the Windows 10 updates. A 'buried in the st

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On 20 Sep 2016 9:14 am, "George Skorup" wrote: > > Now lets move the Windows 10 updates. A 'buried in the sticks' customer on Canopy 900 FSK. 1.5Mbps/384k. Multiple streams from Microsoft and LLNW at the same time. LLNW alone had maybe 10 streams going and was sending at over

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g.org> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 12:34:48 PM Subject: CDN Overload? I participate on a few other mailing lists focused on eyeball networks. For a couple years I've been hearing complaints from this CDN or that CDN was behaving badly. It's been severely ramping up the past few mo

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Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 12:34:48 PM Subject: CDN Overload? I participate on a few other

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, Mike Hammett wrote: The principal complaint is that upstream of whatever is doing the rate limiting for a given customer there is significantly more capacity being utilized than the customer has purchased. This could happen briefly as TCP adjusts to the capacity

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> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > These situations effectively shut out all other Internet traffic to that > customer or even portion of the network for low capacity NLOS areas I think the growing gap between those with high speed links and so-called

CDN Overload?

I participate on a few other mailing lists focused on eyeball networks. For a couple years I've been hearing complaints from this CDN or that CDN was behaving badly. It's been severely ramping up the past few months. There have been some wild allegations, but I would like to develop a bit more