Re: CRS-3

2010-03-19 Thread Steve Meuse
Paul Ferguson expunged (fergdawgs...@gmail.com): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost? Or how much power it would consume? Or how much heat it would generate? Admittedly, my information on these topics comes from NPR

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-19 Thread jim deleskie
): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost?  Or how much power it would consume?  Or how much heat it would generate? Admittedly, my information on these topics comes from NPR these days. :-) They said  it costs ~US$90k, and that ATT

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Snyder
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote: The press release at http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html states that the pricing for the CRS-3 STARTS AT $90K... Is that the cost for a nameplate you can stick on an empty rack with dark glass so you

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-10 Thread Huizinga, Rene
Cisco and linerate...if it would be a Juniper I could say OK, on a Cisco, first see then believe. Also, seeing CRS-1's, is the '3' in CRS-3 the multiplier or magnitude of problems to be expected compared to its 'little' buggy sister.. ? :) -Original Message- From: Bob Snyder

CRS-3 x T1600

2010-03-10 Thread GIULIANO (UOL)
JUNIPER Networks did a press note about the new T-1600 components: http://www.juniper.net/us/en/company/press-center/press-releases/2010/pr_2010_02_04-08_30.html And now CISCO with the new components for the CRS-1 ... to increase it to new CRS-3. Both companies looks like want to reach 4 Tbps

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Bob Snyder wrote: Linecards are interesting. We get a 100Gb card, we get a linerate 14-port 10Gb card, but apparently there's still only a single port OC-768 40Gb card. There has been claims that volume for OC-768 is low so no major effort has been seen to reduce OC-768

CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Brian Feeny
So who is going to be the first to deploy these? http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second - Stream every motion picture ever created in less than four minutes If nothing else you gotta love the Cisco Marketing

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread David Hubbard
If nothing else you gotta love the Cisco Marketing machine! Brian The article about this in the tech section on CNN already has comments in it like Oh, well Cisco owns Linksys and I have a Linksys router so will my ISP be updating me to the CRS-3 so I can download at those speeds? LOL

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Brandon Galbraith
It was mentioned that Att is already testing this with a 100gbps fiber run. On Mar 9, 2010 1:53 PM, Brian Feeny bfe...@mac.com wrote: So who is going to be the first to deploy these? http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Brett Watson
On Mar 9, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote: It was mentioned that Att is already testing this with a 100gbps fiber run. Maybe Peter Lothberg is testing one in his basement? :) -b

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Joel Esler
Yes, it says that right in the press release. J -- Joel Esler joel.es...@me.com http://www.joelesler.net On Tuesday, March 09, 2010, at 03:09PM, Brandon Galbraith brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote: It was mentioned that Att is already testing this with a 100gbps fiber run. On Mar 9, 2010

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Robert Enger - NANOG
Forget Linksys: Didn't Peter Lothberg's mom have a CRS1 in her basement already? :-) She said it was great for drying her clothes. If she gets the CRS-3, will she be able to dry her clothes even faster? On 3/9/2010 11:54 AM, David Hubbard wrote: The article about this in the tech section

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread deleskie
What happened to CRS-2? :) --Original Message-- From: Robert Enger - NANOG To: David Hubbard Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: CRS-3 Sent: Mar 9, 2010 4:20 PM Forget Linksys: Didn't Peter Lothberg's mom have a CRS1 in her basement already? :-) She said it was great for drying her

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Brandon Kim
LOL! Wow that is a pretty sad comment.. But back to the CRS-3, just wow!!! Subject: RE: CRS-3 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:54:16 -0500 From: dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com To: nanog@nanog.org From: Brian Feeny [mailto:bfe...@mac.com] So who is going to be the first to deploy

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Brandon Kim wrote: LOL! Wow that is a pretty sad comment.. But back to the CRS-3, just wow!!! Wow what? Is there anything in the CRS-3 that competitors are not shipping _today_? If you look at some startups, they are doing 4-5 times as many Gbps per slot

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:51:28 -0500 Brian Feeny bfe...@mac.com wrote: So who is going to be the first to deploy these? http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second Is that about 11 giggitybits per second? -

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread bas
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Brian Feeny bfe...@mac.com wrote If nothing else you gotta love the Cisco Marketing machine! Indeed Cisco marketing machine. Nothing new to CRS-1, just new linecards and route-processor. It would be like giving the CAT6500 a new name back when the SUP720/DCEF

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Mark Smith
Subject: Re: CRS-3 Sent: Mar 9, 2010 4:20 PM Forget Linksys: Didn't Peter Lothberg's mom have a CRS1 in her basement already? :-) She said it was great for drying her clothes. If she gets the CRS-3, will she be able to dry her clothes even faster? On 3/9/2010 11:54 AM, David

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Express Web Systems
Wow what? Is there anything in the CRS-3 that competitors are not shipping _today_? If you look at some startups, they are doing 4-5 times as many Gbps per slot, and pre-release equipment is in use in some networks already. The only wow here is wow, why did cisco hype how far behind

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Jake Khuon
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The only wow here is wow, why did cisco hype how far behind they are? Because in some organisations, the only vendor that matters is Cisco. -- /*=[ Jake Khuon kh...@neebu.net ]=+ | Packet Plumber,

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Jake Khuon
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 20:22 +, deles...@gmail.com wrote: What happened to CRS-2? :) It exploded and was destroyed during construction. Parts of it were also recycled to build the next CRS. |8^) -- /*=[ Jake Khuon kh...@neebu.net ]=+ | Packet Plumber,

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Arjan van der Oest
Renaming the 6500? Nice one, let's call it 7600 then :-) Arjan -Original Message- From: bas [mailto:kilo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tue 3/9/2010 9:33 PM To: Brian Feeny Cc: nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Re: CRS-3 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Brian Feeny bfe...@mac.com wrote If nothing

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Brian Feeny
Yes, and their stock price dipped today after the news release actually hit. So remember people, buy on rumor, sell on news. Brian On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Express Web Systems wrote: Wow what? Is there anything in the CRS-3 that competitors are not shipping _today_? If you look

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Tim Durack
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Brian Feeny bfe...@mac.com wrote: So who is going to be the first to deploy these? http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second - Stream every motion picture ever created in less than

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Philip Davis
On 3/9/2010 4:39 PM, Tim Durack wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Brian Feeny bfe...@mac.com wrote: So who is going to be the first to deploy these? http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second - Stream every

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Joachim Tingvold
On 9. mars 2010, at 22.39, Tim Durack wrote: This intelligence also includes carrier-grade IPv6 (CGv6) Can't wait to find out what this is. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps6537/ps6553/white_paper_c11-558744-00_ns1017_Networking_Solutions_White_Paper.html -- Joachim

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Dirk-Jan van Helmond
It's teh future of the tubes! Didn't you get the memo? Nah, actually it is just hardware assisted SP-wide NAT... See: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps6537/ps6553/white_paper_c11-558744-00_ns1017_Networking_Solutions_White_Paper.html Cisco believes that this is the

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The only wow here is wow, why did cisco hype how far behind they are? Because in some organisations, the only vendor that matters is Cisco. Then why bother hyping at all? Anyone who

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Scott Morris
It only supported IPv5. :) Scott [1]deles...@gmail.com wrote: What happened to CRS-2? :) --Original Message-- From: Robert Enger - NANOG To: David Hubbard Cc: [2]na...@nanog.org Subject: Re: CRS-3 Sent: Mar 9, 2010 4:20 PM Forget Linksys: Didn't Peter Lothberg's mom have

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Cian Brennan
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 05:02:01PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The only wow here is wow, why did cisco hype how far behind they are? Because in some organisations, the

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jake Khuon kh...@neebu.net wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 20:22 +, deles...@gmail.com wrote: What happened to CRS-2? :) It exploded and was destroyed during construction.  Parts of it were also recycled to build the next CRS. |8^) /me sits back patiently

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Jake Khuon
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:02 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The only wow here is wow, why did cisco hype how far behind they are? Because in some organisations, the only

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Joel Esler
No one ever got fired for buying Cisco? (This isn't true btw -- I know of people that did get fired for buying Cisco. Just saying...) J On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The only wow here is wow, why did cisco hype

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Bruce Williams
It's called doing the wall street dance. Their stock price jumped 3% yesterday in anticipation of the big announcement. Hype is hype, and people still remember the magic of the dotcom bubble. ZOMG! They increased the size of the tubez! BUY! BUY! [full disclosure: I own stock in Cisco] Tom

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Jake Khuon
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 18:45 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any errors. On Mar 9, 2010, at 17:31, Jake Khuon kh...@neebu.net wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:02 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote: On Tue,

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Bruce Williams
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Express Web Systems mailingli...@expresswebsystems.com wrote: Wow what? Is there anything in the CRS-3 that competitors are not shipping _today_? If you look at some startups, they are doing 4-5 times as many Gbps per slot, and pre-release equipment

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread George Bonser
-Original Message- From: Tim Durack Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:39 PM To: Brian Feeny Subject: Re: CRS-3 This intelligence also includes carrier-grade IPv6 (CGv6) Can't wait to find out what this is. accelerating the delivery of compelling new experiences Sounds like

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Crooks, Sam
Spend the GDP of a small nation on a single box! -Original Message- From: Brian Feeny [mailto:bfe...@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:51 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list Subject: CRS-3 So who is going to be the first to deploy these? http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Matthew Petach wrote: /me sits back patiently and waits for CRS-5, then...[1] CRS-3 is ~3 times as fast as CRS-1, so I guess the next iteration will be CRS-12 and then CRS-36, CRS-108 (perhaps CRS-100 just to make it easy). :P -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Brian Feeny bfe...@mac.com wrote: So who is going to be the first to deploy these? http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second - Stream every motion picture ever created in less than

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Mark
I fail to see how using linksys's range of products is going to be comparable to enterprise grade cisco gear. Well, your average consumer wouldn't be involved with a CRS or for that matter, anything that remotely resembles a CRS. Not sure why you'd pull the consumer market into this marketing

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Robert Enger - NANOG
On 3/9/2010 9:19 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Brian Feenybfe...@mac.com wrote: So who is going to be the first to deploy these? http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second - Stream every

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Paul Ferguson
the marketspeak. Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost? Or how much power it would consume? Or how much heat it would generate? Or perhaps more interestingly, given the way things seem to be going, how many (tens of?) millions of RIB entries it'll allow? Just curious

RE: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Arjan van der Oest
- From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patr...@ianai.net] Sent: Tue 3/9/2010 11:02 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: CRS-3 On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The only wow here is wow, why did cisco hype how far behind

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread David Conrad
On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost? Admittedly, my information on these topics comes from NPR these days. :-) They said it costs ~US$90k, and that ATT was in trails. Somehow, I'm skeptical (not of the trials

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, David Conrad wrote: Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost? Or how much power it would consume? Or how much heat it would generate? Power is fairly easy, you need somewhere in the order of 14kW per rack (at least you need to provision

Re: CRS-3

2010-03-09 Thread Gregory Hicks
Subject: Re: CRS-3 From: David Conrad d...@virtualized.org Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:06:39 -0800 On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost? Admittedly, my information on these topics comes from NPR these days