Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-26 Thread Saku Ytti
https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=JSA10819 https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=JSA10713 https://tools.cisco.com/security/center/content/CiscoSecurityAdvisory/cisco-sa-20180307-cpcp

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-26 Thread Alan Buxey
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/26/hyperoptics_zte_routers/ yet another ZTE issue . :( alan

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On 24 April 2018 at 21:45, Naslund, Steve wrote: Hey, > The US Government considers Huawei and ZTE to have "close ties" to the > Chinese government according to the Director of National Intelligence along > with the heads of CIA, FBI, and the NSA as stated in testimony

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Naslund, Steve
>I'm sure all these companies have legal entities in all countries the operate >in. So Huawei in US is US company and Huawei products bought in US from US >Huawei are good,. but bad >when bought from Huawei China? IANAL however I was a network engineer for the US Air Force for over ten years.

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey Aaron, > Excuse my lack of knowledge... What does this mean? "Shareholders are people > holding Vanguard/Blackrock." Funds which are largest owners of Cisco shares. -- ++ytti

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Aaron Gould
Excuse my lack of knowledge... What does this mean? "Shareholders are people holding Vanguard/Blackrock." Aaron > On Apr 24, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > Shareholders are people holding Vanguard/Blackrock.

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread STARNES, CURTIS via NANOG
-Original Message- >From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Saku Ytti >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:59 AM >To: Naslund, Steve <snasl...@medline.com> >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE >On 24 April 2018 a

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On 24 April 2018 at 19:50, Naslund, Steve wrote: > Easy one, what law is the company incorporated under? Nothing against the > Chinese companies (some of their stuff is really great), but it is admittedly > hard to separate China's military industrial complex from their

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Naslund, Steve
> > > Yes looks like they are both under pressure. I feel bad for the USA based > > employees. I know Huawei has quite a few in Plano, Texas. > > Feel sorry for US based consumers. Historically protectionism always > hurts the local economy most. By creating artificial demand on local > products,

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Colton Conor
Saku, I do feel bad for US Based consumers as I am one of them! Overall, I find Huawei's solutions to be 1/3 the price of the equivalent Juniper/Cisco. The only the stopping me from buying them is the fear of it being hacked due to the media. Like the S6720-EI is MEF certified, runs MPLS, and is

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On 20 April 2018 at 16:44, Colton Conor wrote: > Yes looks like they are both under pressure. I feel bad for the USA based > employees. I know Huawei has quite a few in Plano, Texas. Feel sorry for US based consumers. Historically protectionism always hurts the local

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Colin Stanners (lists)
gt; Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE Josh, I like the whitebox route, but I can't find anything that will come close price wise. Example, Huawei S6720 with 24 10G ports, 2 40G ports, and full MPLS operating system from Huawei is $3500 out the door wit

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Colton Conor
l 20, 2018 7:35 AM > To: Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>; NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE > > Ah. ZTE is in a spot of trouble right about now. > > http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2142557/zte-calls-us- > government-ban-extremely-u

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread STARNES, CURTIS via NANOG
Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE Ah. ZTE is in a spot of trouble right about now. http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2142557/zte-calls-us-government-ban-extremely-unfair-vows-fight-its-rights On 20/04/18, 5:58 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Colton Conor" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf o

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Colton Conor
Josh, I like the whitebox route, but I can't find anything that will come close price wise. Example, Huawei S6720 with 24 10G ports, 2 40G ports, and full MPLS operating system from Huawei is $3500 out the door with a lifetime warranty. I can't even find a whitebox hardware, not even accounting

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Ah. ZTE is in a spot of trouble right about now. http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2142557/zte-calls-us-government-ban-extremely-unfair-vows-fight-its-rights On 20/04/18, 5:58 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Colton Conor" wrote: Of the

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
Why not just go the whitebox route and pick your NOS of choice? Far cheaper, and far more flexible. On Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:28 AM Colton Conor wrote: > Of the two large Chinese Vendors, which has the better network operating > system? Huawei is much larger that ZTE is

China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Colton Conor
Of the two large Chinese Vendors, which has the better network operating system? Huawei is much larger that ZTE is my understanding, but larger does not always mean better. Both of these manufactures have switches and routers. I doubt we will use their routing products anytime soon, but the