> On Feb 26, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Livingood, Jason <jason_living...@comcast.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I think the bigger culprit is not the stuff ISPs buy but what consumers
> buy (aka COAM).

I’m certainly not a comcast apologist, (I do wish they would service the 
communities where they had their call centers, like here in the unserved parts 
of their Scio Township call center).

But Jason is spot-on here.  There are clear scale problems when dealing with 
large numbers of customers, and no matter what some of them will use crap 
equipment.

We as an the techies in industry often “just fix it” for our 
friends/parents/colleagues.  I am an enabler of CGN as I often help a local 
WISP with their environment when they should be doing IPv6 or something else.  
Often people are willing to leave as a customer because their device which gets 
no firmware updates blocks valid DNS requests or has some other problem.

These items are shipped freight 6 months in advance from someplace like 
Shenzhen and never updated, then when they don’t work, customers who don’t 
understand RF propagation issues, why running a cable through the wall is 
better, etc.. end up ditching because of the $200 gift card offered for 8 hours 
of time waiting for an installation appointment in 2 years.

These incentives are all wrong in the marketplace, we need better equipment, 
better people and better responses to the issues.

We all have committed various technical sins, I’m not immune, nor is Comcast or 
likely most people on the list.  This thread was started because Comcast and 
the teams led by Michael actually worked to remediate abusive customer 
equipment that wasn’t their fault.

As we continue to connect devices to the network, the ability to do this type 
of remediation is essential.  If you don’t believe me, look at the recent 
settlement with ASUS 
(http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/02/asus-lawsuit-puts-entire-industry-on-notice-over-shoddy-router-security/)
  or this twitter account - http://tinyurl.com/p6tfh8d where things are 
comically documented.  (Short URL as it uses a profane term that some systems 
may filter).

- Jared

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