> You know how to help. Take the Loadsharers pleadge and spread the word.
>
Or maybe suggest to some of these BDFL that they loosen their self imposed
requirements to maintain absolute control of the code, and share the
workload. It's not hard to work 50 hours a week for free. Don't!
On Thu,
Jon Lewis :
> This may have been an anomaly made possible by early .com $, but I'm pretty
> sure at one point, companies like VA Research / VA Linux employed developers
> who in various cases worked part or full time on the Linux kernel and other
> Open Source projects "as their job".
I was on
Once upon a time, Jon Lewis said:
> This may have been an anomaly made possible by early .com $, but I'm
> pretty sure at one point, companies like VA Research / VA Linux
> employed developers who in various cases worked part or full time on
> the Linux kernel and other Open Source projects "as
Once upon a time, Eric S. Raymond said:
> Chris Adams :
> > Once upon a time, Eric S. Raymond said:
> > > Tell it to Patrick Volkerding, who sweated to created the first Linux
> > > distribution
> >
> > No, he didn't.
>
> Can you be more specific? Are we possibly having some definitional
Eric,
Not to go too far afield, but I’m also not on anyone’s payroll, so I buy my own
individual-plan health insurance. Yes, it’s more expensive, but that’s the
price of not having just one boss :)
-mel beckman
> On Jun 27, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>
> Mehmet Akcin :
>>>
Eric S. Raymond :
> Miles Fidelman :
> > Now, if you mean, the oldest EXTANT distribution, that WOULD be Slackware.
>
> I will revise appropriately. And ask my informants some pointed questions.
>
> This is, by tge why, an exemplar of why LBIP evaluation should be
> crowdsourced. I can't know
Jan Schaumann :
> Perhaps an opportunity to collaborate with
> https://www.coreinfrastructure.org/ ?
I am unfortunately constrained in what I can say about CII.
The temptation to rant is extreme, but I would be revealing
confidences that are not mine if I did so.
I'll just suggest that if you
Miles Fidelman :
> Now, if you mean, the oldest EXTANT distribution, that WOULD be Slackware.
I will revise appropriately. And ask my informants some pointed questions.
This is, by tge why, an exemplar of why LBIP evaluation should be
crowdsourced. I can't know eveything relevant. No other
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
I think many of us assume that doing the sort of work you're referring to
will definitely result in the regular receipt of many prestigious,
high-paying job offers.
When that happens, it's actually a problem.
Let's suppose that someone were to
Miles Fidelman wrote:
> I think it would be a grand thing if someone put together a visible list of
> critical Internet infrastructure, who maintains it, and perhaps "click to
> support" buttons for those that need support.
Perhaps an opportunity to collaborate with
On 6/27/19 3:21 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
Chris Adams :
Once upon a time, Eric S. Raymond said:
Tell it to Patrick Volkerding, who sweated to created the first Linux
distribution
No, he didn't.
Can you be more specific? Are we possibly having some definitional issue
about what
Chris Adams :
> Once upon a time, Eric S. Raymond said:
> > Tell it to Patrick Volkerding, who sweated to created the first Linux
> > distribution
>
> No, he didn't.
Can you be more specific? Are we possibly having some definitional issue
about what constitutes a Linux distribution?
It is
Once upon a time, Eric S. Raymond said:
> Tell it to Patrick Volkerding, who sweated to created the first Linux
> distribution
No, he didn't.
--
Chris Adams
Jeff Shultz :
> As is, one thing that grates a bit personally is that the two advisor
> pages do not share a common structure - If I'm doing a comparison,
> even unconsciously, I'm going to want to be looking at like objects.
> Instead, I have your page, which matches the rest of the formatting of
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:31 AM Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>
> Jeff Shultz :
> > It will be interesting to see, should this get off the ground to any
> > significant amount, if it turns into a bit of a popularity contest -
> > where a few get the lions share of the donations and the rest a
> >
Miles Fidelman :
> I think it would be a grand thing if someone put together a visible list of
> critical Internet infrastructure, who maintains it, and perhaps "click to
> support" buttons for those that need support. Then again, such a list might
> present a wonderful target list for those who
Mehmet Akcin :
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 08:41 Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>
> > The members of this list are, I think, much more aware tham most that
> > a lot of critical Internet software is maintained by unfunded
> > volunteers, and of the systemic risks that result from this.
>
> Please
Jeff Shultz :
> It will be interesting to see, should this get off the ground to any
> significant amount, if it turns into a bit of a popularity contest -
> where a few get the lions share of the donations and the rest a
> pittance.
I'm aware of that possible failure mode. It's why I designed
Tom Beecher
> > Adding an organization in front of that whose sole reason for existence is
> > to decide who gets what % of the money doesn't make a lot of sense, mostly
> > because it is just creating another layer of people who are then going to
> > feel entitled to be compensated for taking
Matt Harris :
> Interesting concept, and seems like a good idea. What's the end goal look
> like?
Depends on timescale. What I want is for a growing number of skilled
engineers to be able to both (a) work shared-infrastructure problems
full time, and (b) be able to feed themselves and pay rent
I think it would be a grand thing if someone put together a visible list
of critical Internet infrastructure, who maintains it, and perhaps
"click to support" buttons for those that need support. Then again,
such a list might present a wonderful target list for those who might
want to do ill.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 9:34 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
>>
>> Encouraging folks to contribute to specific individuals directly may be a
>> little more difficult though, compared to, say, getting a legitimate
>> organization going that provides (likely objectively-determined merit-based)
>> payouts
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:32 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
> Encouraging folks to contribute to specific individuals directly may be a
>> little more difficult though, compared to, say, getting a legitimate
>> organization going that provides (likely objectively-determined
>> merit-based) payouts to
>
> Encouraging folks to contribute to specific individuals directly may be a
> little more difficult though, compared to, say, getting a legitimate
> organization going that provides (likely objectively-determined
> merit-based) payouts to the sort of folks you're talking about.
>
Adding an
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 08:41 Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> The members of this list are, I think, much more aware tham most that
> a lot of critical Internet software is maintained by unfunded
> volunteers, and of the systemic risks that result from this.
>
Please explain. This is not true.
> I'm
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:41 AM Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> The members of this list are, I think, much more aware tham most that
> a lot of critical Internet software is maintained by unfunded
> volunteers, and of the systemic risks that result from this.
>
> I'm attacking the problem at the
The members of this list are, I think, much more aware tham most that
a lot of critical Internet software is maintained by unfunded
volunteers, and of the systemic risks that result from this.
I'm attacking the problem at the root, applying what the Internet has
taught us about decentralization
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