s been a fact of life in the UK
> for most of its history).
And in Ireland too.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 2:13 PM
> > To: Randy Bush
> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org
&g
On Feb 20, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> At least the US has a written constitution and the concept of the
>> people being sovereign.
>
> and a room im sf where at&t hands all their internet and voice to the
> nsa. right. and the list is long. internet and voie traffic are no
> longe
> At least the US has a written constitution and the concept of the
> people being sovereign.
and a room im sf where at&t hands all their internet and voice to the
nsa. right. and the list is long. internet and voie traffic are no
longer private in the least sense. and cisco builds taps into a
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
(WTF quote that just went by - "Hospitals have backup diesel generators, but
only 6-12 hours of fuel". I certainly hope that number is suffering from
pulled-from-orifice syndrome. Heck - *our* day tank has 36 hours of diesel in
it because "power
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:49:25 -0800
"Tomas L. Byrnes" wrote:
> Right, because GCHQ doesn't/hasn't/never would do such a thing...
>
plonk - moron
--
John
Alright can someone moderate this thread and shut it down please?
--Original Message--
From: Tomas L. Byrnes
To: andrew.wallace
To: Randy Bush
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
Sent: Feb 20, 2010 7:49 PM
Right, because GCHQ doesn't/hasn't/n
ndrew.wall...@rocketmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 2:13 PM
> To: Randy Bush
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
>
> --- On Sat, 20/2/10, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> > From: Randy Bush
> > Subject: Re: "Cyber Shock
> My favorite: "What was most troubling to the participants was their
> inability to find a guilty party."
Wasn't Jeff Williams and his army of 100+ thousand trolls ?
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:50:06 PST, "andrew.wallace" said:
> I am from the UK and don't know how to watch CNN Cyber Shockwave via an
> internet live stream.
Quick summary an hour in: "Heck of a cyber-job, Brownie".
Nothing surprising here. If they wanted to be more realistic, they'd include
some
haha that was pretty damn funny!!!
> From: b...@world.std.com
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:00:06 -0500
> To: ra...@psg.com
> Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
> CC: nanog@nanog.org
>
>
> It's "Night of the Living Fed!", ex-bureaucrats bro
It's "Night of the Living Fed!", ex-bureaucrats brought back to life!
They just don't know what to do, they don't know what to focus on,
they're obsessed with whether or not they can manage to Mirandize
whoever is responsible for the attack and similar legal authorities.
Those who can't see this
> It's obvious though, they don't know who the enemy would be.
i suspect the old walt kelly saying may fit well here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_%28comics%29#.22We_have_met_the_enemy22
randy
--- On Sat, 20/2/10, Michael Painter wrote:
> From: Michael Painter
> Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 22:18
> andrew.wallace wrote:
> > It looks like this demo is pressing ahead for the
> intr
y Bush wrote:
From: Randy Bush
Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
To: "andrew.wallace"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 21:58
It looks like this demo is
a bunch of sick press and sick ex-gov wishtheycouldbeagains
trying to
get as much mindshare as t
andrew.wallace wrote:
It looks like this demo is pressing ahead for the intro of allowing the US Government to take control of private sector
networks
"in an emergency"... and wants to include smart phones into the bargin.
Or at least that is my interpretation of what the demo is trying to conv
--- On Sat, 20/2/10, Randy Bush wrote:
> From: Randy Bush
> Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
> To: "andrew.wallace"
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 21:58
> > It looks like this demo is
>
> a bunch of sick press an
> It looks like this demo is
a bunch of sick press and sick ex-gov wishtheycouldbeagains trying to
get as much mindshare as they can. and you're helping them.
randy
--- On Sat, 20/2/10, Randy Bush wrote:
> From: Randy Bush
> Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
> To: "andrew.wallace"
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 3:10
> the details were in the press days
> ago. 83.2% scare, ne
> US carried out "Cyber Shockwave" - an exercise by non-government actors who
> have close relations to the government past.
s/US/CNN/
s/exercise/show/
s/close relations/been paid by CNN to show off their relations/
> The results will be aired on CNN this weekend.
s/results/show/
the details were in the press days ago. 83.2% scare, negligible lessons
we can actually put in practice without becoming (more of) a police
state.
randy
US carried out "Cyber Shockwave" - an exercise by non-government actors who
have close relations to the government past.
The results will be aired on CNN this weekend.
Intelligence suggests the scenario was not standard and that a crash in the
smart phone network was used as a concept of how US
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