Re: Ear protection

2015-09-26 Thread Alan Buxey
Great summary of the thread No-one using remote control robots with video feed etc for working in these environments then? Plans to? ;) alan

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-26 Thread Dovid Bender
No but some one in Australia just bought the iPhone 6s via a robot. --Original Message-- From: Alan Buxey Sender: NANOG To: Nick Hilliard To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Ear protection Sent: Sep 26, 2015 04:21 Great summary of the thread No-one using remote control robots with video

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-25 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 23/09/2015 10:34, Nick Hilliard wrote: > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? Summarising, people seem to use a wide variety of kit: Ear muffs: - 3M Peltor Shotgunner Hearing Protector - 3M Peltor Optime Acoustic headsets: - 3M Pel

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2015-09-24 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
00 x200 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Holloway >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:48 AM >> To: Joe Greco; jim deleskie >> Cc: Alex Rubenstein; NANOG >> Subject: Re: Ear prote

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2015-09-24 Thread Chris Boyd
> On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > be more expensive. $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it’s higher performance and much quieter. —Chris

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-24 Thread mikea
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 09:51:07AM -0500, Chris Boyd wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > > be more expensive. > > $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it’s higher

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-24 Thread Sameer Khosla
$60ish. Sk. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Nick Hilliard Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 5:34 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Ear protection What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? I'm down to my last couple

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2015-09-24 Thread Joe Greco
> > On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > >=20 > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > > be more expensive. > > $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it=E2=80=99s higher = > performance and much quieter. That's not typical

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Jameson, Daniel
I use these http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Faders-Tuned-Earplugs-Electro/dp/B007RRTO2Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8=1443014097=8-9=er+20+ear+plugs in the equipment room, You can still hear, just brings the level down to a manageable level. Looks like a pair of headphones.

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:08:09 -, Alex Rubenstein said: > Why not just build a Datacenter that is quiet? When buying a compute cluster, if there's a budget choice between 15 more teraflops, or 15 less decibels, the teraflops *always* win. pgpPEg0jomK8N.pgp Description: PGP signature

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2015-09-23 Thread jim deleskie
atacenter that is quiet? > > On Sep 23, 2015 05:34, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> wrote: > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? I'm > down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: > > http://www.shop3m.com/3m-corded-earplugs-hearing-conservation-11

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Why not just build a Datacenter that is quiet? On Sep 23, 2015 05:34, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> wrote: What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? I'm down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: http://www.shop3m.com/3m-corded-earplugs-hearing-conservation-111

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2015-09-23 Thread Joe Greco
> Why not just build a Datacenter that is quiet? Because the cost differential to do so is a lot greater than the $10 to get some hearing protection? Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can be more expensive. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services -

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2015-09-23 Thread Joe Greco
> Maybe I've always listened to my music to loud and spend the bulk of time > via ssh, but I've never felt a need for hearing protection in a DC, is this > generally an issue for people? Depends on how long and how noisy. As I've gotten older, I find loud noise in general is less tolerable, so

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 8:50 AM, wrote: > When buying a compute cluster, if there's a budget choice between > 15 more teraflops, or 15 less decibels, the teraflops *always* win. > Loudly sounds like a flop to me puns fully intended -- Brian Christopher Raaen

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Will van Gulik
, at 11:42, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> wrote: >> What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? > > Telecommuting, in my case. > > had to say it! :0 > >>

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2015-09-23 Thread Harald Koch
I use Etymotic earplugs on my motorcycle as well as in other loud environments, because they attenuate "without loss of clarity": http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ETY-Plugs-Protection-Earplugs/dp/B0044DEESS ​ -- Harald

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2015-09-23 Thread Royce Williams
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> wrote: > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? For me, it depends on the use case. If I need to monitor for other sounds, or listen to music: Bose QuietComfort 15 - discontinued,

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Jordan Medlen
[mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Harald Koch Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:45 AM To: David Hubbard <dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com> Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Ear protection I use Etymotic earplugs on my motorcycle as well as in other loud environmen

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 9/23/15, 7:53 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Joe Greco" wrote: >> Maybe I've always listened to my music to loud and spend the bulk of >>time >> via ssh, but I've never felt a need for hearing protection in a DC, is >>this >> generally an

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Steve Mikulasik
I use these normally. http://www.howardleight.com/earplugs/laser-lite I am surprised some datacenters don't have a requirement for ear protection when entering their facilitiy. Most large construction sites I have been to required me to have ear plugs at least in a pocket and I have been

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2015-09-23 Thread David Hubbard
nal Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of > Nick Hilliard > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 5:34 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Ear protection > > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters > these days? I'm down

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Matthew Black
Hilliard Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:34 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Ear protection What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? I'm down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: http://www.shop3m.com/3m-corded-earplugs-hearing-conservation-1110.html These work

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Keith Stokes
Since I’m in our colo facility this morning, I decided to put some numbers on it in my little isolated corner with lots of blowers running. According to my iPhone SPL meter, average SPL is 81 - 82 dB with peaks 88 - 89 dB. According to the OSHA hearing protection chart, 90 dB is the maximum

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2015-09-23 at 13:48 +, Bryan Holloway wrote: > Depends on the type of "noise" too. Obviously seek competent medical advice, but my understanding is that this is a myth. The energy of sound is what causes damage. Bach played at 120dB will do just the same damage as a jet engine at

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Eric Rogers
Holloway Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:48 AM To: Joe Greco; jim deleskie Cc: Alex Rubenstein; NANOG Subject: Re: Ear protection On 9/23/15, 7:53 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Joe Greco" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of jgr...@ns.sol.net> wrote: >> Maybe I've always listen

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Erik Sundberg
[mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Lamar Owen Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:13 AM To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Ear protection On 09/23/2015 10:09 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: > Since I’m in our colo facility this morning, I decided to put some numbers on > it

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2015-09-23 Thread Lamar Owen
On 09/23/2015 10:09 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: Since I’m in our colo facility this morning, I decided to put some numbers on it in my little isolated corner with lots of blowers running. According to my iPhone SPL meter, average SPL is 81 - 82 dB with peaks 88 - 89 dB. With SPL that close to

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
ed or your not measuring the noise that will most impact your hearing. You should also not rely on your employer providing ear protection. You should take it on yourself to guard against tinitis. (No fun. I have a touch of it in my left ear but not from music or concerts. From randomness. Overly

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
benefit of a > headphone plug so you can still use your phone, ipod, etc. > while you're in the data center. :-) > > David > > > -Original Message- > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of > > Nick Hilliard > > Sent: Wed

Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? I'm down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: http://www.shop3m.com/3m-corded-earplugs-hearing-conservation-1110.html These work reasonably well in practice, with a rated nominal noise reduction rate of 29dB. Some people find

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> wrote: > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? Telecommuting, in my case. had to say it! :0 > I'm > down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: > > http://www.shop3m.com/3m-co

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Joe Greco
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> wrote: > > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? > > Telecommuting, in my case. > > had to say it! :0 I carry these around in my pocket all the time: http://www.amazo

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Justin Sherrill
> What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? > I'm down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: http://www.moldex.com/hearing-protection/foam-earplugs/pura-fit.php This are cheap, but that's sort of the point - you can put a bin, or several bins, filled wit

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Don Nightingale
Subject: Re: Ear protection On 9/23/15, 7:53 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Joe Greco" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of jgr...@ns.sol.net> wrote: Maybe I've always listened to my music to loud and spend the bulk of time via ssh, but I've never felt a need for hearing pr