On 05/15/2018 04:34 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
>
> That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
> by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant newbies who don't know
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:42:31AM +0100, Brandon Butterworth wrote:
> and phishers/exploiters. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
> by four kinds of people
I'll accept that as a friendly amendment. ;)
It is -- to Brian Kantor's point elsewhere in the thread -- very
unfortunate that many
On 5/15/2018 05:59, Brian Kantor wrote:
>
> I imagine some fool told them this improves security, and they were
> stupid enough to believe it.
> - Brian
>
It's a bit simpler than that. Too many people are dazzled by polished
presentations. It's a sad fact of life that there are way
On 15/05/2018 10:34, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
>
> That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
> by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant newbies who don't know any
>
Embargo has been broken. Here's the full details: https://efail.de
(h/t Martjin Grooten)
On Mon, 14 May 2018, 09:19 Suresh Ramasubramanian,
wrote:
> Seems to be a set of MUA bugs that are being overblown and hyped up.
>
> TL;DR = Don't use HTML email with some mail clients
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:31 PM Alan Buxey wrote:
> real ones
>
Ah, the classic "no true Scotsman." I haven't seen one of these in a while.
I think the vast majority of HTML email use is due to "email formatting and
markup" being somewhere near the end of the priority
real ones send such formulae as LaTeX attachments - where their recipients
can have a simple plugin to view/display it inline (then save to
edit/modify etc).
HTML is horrible for formula...but at least I guess a little better than MS
Word.
alan
On May 15, 2018 at 05:34 r...@gsp.org (Rich Kulawiec) wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> > TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
>
> That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
> by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant
On 05/15/2018 07:22 PM, Jim Shankland wrote:
> On 5/15/18 2:34 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>>> TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
>> That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
>> by three kinds of
On 5/15/18 2:34 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant newbies who don't know any
better (2)
I did a lot. Centralized proprietary messenger with a lot of noise around.
Unlike for example clear p2p tox, federalized own jabber server, with
TOR to hide a metadata.
15.05.18 19:36, John Levine пише:
> In article <47acebac-7df1-0dbb-9584-27062a945...@netassist.ua> you write:
>> Really? Use
In article <47acebac-7df1-0dbb-9584-27062a945...@netassist.ua> you write:
>Really? Use extremely centralized closed source "solution"?
You might want to learn a little about Signal.
R's,
John
>
>LOL.
>
>15.05.18 18:47, John Levine пише:
>> In article
> On May 15, 2018, at 8:47 AM, John Levine wrote:
> Bruce Schneier's blog entry ended by saying that
> if you care about encryption use Signal or WhatsApp.
I didn’t even.
-Bill
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Really? Use extremely centralized closed source "solution"?
LOL.
15.05.18 18:47, John Levine пише:
> In article <240538927.8145.1526388210820.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> you
> write:
>> Encrypted e-mail is so incredibly niche, this won't affect almost everyone.
>
> Bruce Schneier's blog
In article <240538927.8145.1526388210820.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> you
write:
>Encrypted e-mail is so incredibly niche, this won't affect almost everyone.
Bruce Schneier's blog entry on this arcane buglet ended by saying that
if you care about encryption use Signal or WhatsApp.
R's,
John
On 5/15/2018 5:34 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant newbies who don't know any
better (2) ineducable morons who refuse to learn (3) spammers.
There are no exceptions.
For years, I was very
On 05/15/2018 02:34 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant newbies who don't know any
4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Email security: PGP/GPG & S/MIME vulnerability drop imminent
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
by three kinds of peopl
m>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:43:25 AM
Subject: Email security: PGP/GPG & S/MIME vulnerability drop imminent
This is likely bad enough operators need to pay attention.
@seecurity tweeted:
"We'll publish critical vulnerabilities in PGP/GPG and S/MIME email
Brian Kantor writes:
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 05:34:31AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> > TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
>>
>> That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
>>
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 05:34:31AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> > TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
>
> That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
> by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant
On Tue May 15, 2018 at 05:34:31AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> > TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
>
> That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
> by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant newbies
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 01:47:50PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> TL;DR = Don't use HTML email [snip]
That's enough right there. HTML markup in email is used exclusively
by three kinds of people: (1) ignorant newbies who don't know any
better (2) ineducable morons who refuse to learn (3)
Seems to be a set of MUA bugs that are being overblown and hyped up.
TL;DR = Don't use HTML email with some mail clients when sending pgp encrypted
mail.
https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2018-May/060315.html
--srs
On 14/05/18, 1:15 PM, "NANOG on behalf of George William Herbert"
This is likely bad enough operators need to pay attention.
@seecurity tweeted:
"We'll publish critical vulnerabilities in PGP/GPG and S/MIME email encryption
on 2018-05-15 07:00 UTC. They might reveal the plaintext of encrypted emails,
including encrypted emails sent in the past. #efail 1/4"
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