Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 10:52 PM William Herrin wrote: > YOUR use of PON makes reasonably good sense. > > Features such as battery backup and ISDN is made for the explicit purpose of office buildings, not residential use. The flexibility that we enjoy will also work for office buildings. I do

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread K. Scott Helms
I'd say that any carrier grade GPON gear is way overkill for a LAN and you're going to have to run single mode fiber to use the consumer grade ONTs which is a big extra expense as few structured wiring companies do single mode. Second, Dasan Zhone is one of the vendors I'd absolutely avoid and

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread Baldur Norddahl
gt; > ---------- > *From: *"Alfie Pates" > *To: *nanog@nanog.org > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:34:29 PM > *Subject: *Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions > > The discussion was regarding an in-building LAN - residential access > networks/

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM Baldur Norddahl wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:51 PM William Herrin wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:47 PM Baldur Norddahl >> wrote: >> > Compared to the traditional approach, you will only have one centralized >> > GPON switch to manage. All the small

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Alfie Pates" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:34:29 PM Subject: Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions The discussion was regarding an in-building LAN - resident

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread Alfie Pates
The discussion was regarding an in-building LAN - residential access networks/WANs are a wholly different beast and GPON is fantastically suitable for that particular problem. There is, however, a reason that a lot of new mixed-use (business && residential) WAN fibre deployments end up building a

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 12/12/18 10:51 AM, William Herrin wrote: > The AV lab gets screwed. You're running the coax they need through the > noisy electrical riser because you didn't build dedicated comms risers > and closets. Naturally nobody checked with them so you don't yet > realize they can't do what they need to

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:51 PM William Herrin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:47 PM Baldur Norddahl > wrote: > > Compared to the traditional approach, you will only have one centralized > > GPON switch to manage. All the small ONT switches are managed through > > this. Complaints about the

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:47 PM Baldur Norddahl wrote: > Compared to the traditional approach, you will only have one centralized > GPON switch to manage. All the small ONT switches are managed through > this. Complaints about the interface is vendor specific. Because there is only > one

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 10:16 AM Aled Morris wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 at 06:48, Baldur Norddahl > wrote: > > It is possible one should not choose this system over a traditional > approach, but the people screaming "rip it out" are out of line IMHO. It > would be a huge expense to rewire a

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-12 Thread Aled Morris via NANOG
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 at 06:48, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > It is possible one should not choose this system over a traditional approach, > but the people screaming "rip it out" are out of line IMHO. It would be a > huge expense to rewire a building with copper and they already got a working >

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-11 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:16 AM Ross Tajvar wrote: > I don't really have any advice to offer here (sorry), but I am curious how > setting up a GPON LAN would save money vs just getting cheaper > switches...and also what a GPON LAN even looks like. Does every office or > classroom have an ONT? >

Re: Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-11 Thread Ross Tajvar
I don't really have any advice to offer here (sorry), but I am curious how setting up a GPON LAN would save money vs just getting cheaper switches...and also what a GPON LAN even looks like. Does every office or classroom have an ONT? On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:53 AM Nick Bogle wrote: > Hello

Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions

2018-12-11 Thread Nick Bogle
Hello fellow NANOG members :) Let me start with a little bit of background, my day job is a Network Engineer for a local university where we have primarily a Cisco environment from phones to switching to routing, etc. Before my time, we hired a contractor to design a GPON LAN system for a new