Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-27 Thread Martin Hannigan
Hi Jason, This is not commonplace. That prefix is from a specially designated IXP micro allocation block. See http://bit.ly/1OEcHde for detail. The use of these specially designated blocks is for IXPs only. We (Akamai) don't have equipment numbered into this type of address space nor do we have a

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:32 PM, ITechGeek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > >> > I'm surprised they don't set aside a small piece of their IP space that >> an >> >> 'they' and 'their' here are confusing, which 'they' and 'their' did you >> mean? > > > In this

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-14 Thread ITechGeek
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > I'm surprised they don't set aside a small piece of their IP space that > an > > 'they' and 'their' here are confusing, which 'they' and 'their' did you > mean? In this case they being Google and their being Google's IP space (but y

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 4:05 PM, ITechGeek wrote: > I'm surprised they don't set aside a small piece of their IP space that an 'they' and 'their' here are confusing, which 'they' and 'their' did you mean? > ISP can anycast routes locally to the cache (Maybe a /24?) that sounds like a recipe for

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-14 Thread manning
one of the legacy uses of an IX was to place “content” near the eyeballs. For the adventurous, this meant placing NTP chimers, DNS & route servers, and even content directly on the switch mesh. Akamai might have been the first to pull back from that and move its services behind an Akamai route

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-14 Thread ITechGeek
I'm surprised they don't set aside a small piece of their IP space that an ISP can anycast routes locally to the cache (Maybe a /24?) --- -ITG (ITechGeek) i...@itechgeek.com https://itg.nu/ GPG Keys: https:

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-14 Thread Dave Temkin
Seems like an odd waste of resources; what if Google, Akamai, Netflix, and anyone else who wanted caches wanted IPs in that block? The IX would be out of address space pretty quickly, forcing a majority of users to re-number because of a small number of other users. -Dave On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-12 Thread Steven Schecter
Those IPs appear to be used by to Google cache servers at the QIX. It's common for CDNs to utilize provider space and not maintain their own layer-3. E.g. cache servers connected to switch, connected to provider, without the requirement of a router. /Steve On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Jaso

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-12 Thread Trent Farrell
^ my thought, they're on the QIX public block On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Stephen Fulton wrote: > Local Google caches at QIX? > > -- Stephen > > > On 2015-03-12 3:58 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > >> So today, I saw this: >> >> BlackBox:~ jlixfeld$ host google.ca 8.8.8.8 >> Using domain server:

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-12 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
Look for GGC. -- Eduardo Schoedler 2015-03-12 16:58 GMT-03:00 Jason Lixfeld : > So today, I saw this: > > BlackBox:~ jlixfeld$ host google.ca 8.8.8.8 > Using domain server: > Name: 8.8.8.8 > Address: 8.8.8.8#53 > Aliases: > > google.ca has address 206.126.112.166 > google.ca has address 206.126

Re: Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-12 Thread Stephen Fulton
Local Google caches at QIX? -- Stephen On 2015-03-12 3:58 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: So today, I saw this: BlackBox:~ jlixfeld$ host google.ca 8.8.8.8 Using domain server: Name: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53 Aliases: google.ca has address 206.126.112.166 google.ca has address 206.126.112.177 goog

Google served from non-google IPs?

2015-03-12 Thread Jason Lixfeld
So today, I saw this: BlackBox:~ jlixfeld$ host google.ca 8.8.8.8 Using domain server: Name: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53 Aliases: google.ca has address 206.126.112.166 google.ca has address 206.126.112.177 google.ca has address 206.126.112.172 google.ca has address 206.126.112.187 google.ca has a