Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk Anecdotally, I had an interview years ago for a small-ish futures trading company based in London. The interviewer had to pause the interview part way through whilst he investigated a 10ms latency spike that the traders

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread John Osmon
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:30:33AM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk Anecdotally, I had an interview years ago for a small-ish futures trading company based in London. The interviewer had to pause the interview part way

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Rodrick Brown
On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk Anecdotally, I had an interview years ago for a small-ish futures trading company based in London. The interviewer had to pause the interview part way

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:01:36 EST, Rodrick Brown said: Trades today in the equity markets must be within the national best bid, best offer price range or companies can be fined by the SEC which is why latency

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:36:35PM -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Am I the only one who thinks that if network jitter can make you fall outside the acceptable price window, maybe, just maybe, the market is just too damned volatile for its own good? I've had an

RE: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Kiriki Delany
Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:54 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring In a message written on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:36:35PM -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Am I the only one who thinks that if network jitter can make you fall

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Craig
:54 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring In a message written on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:36:35PM -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Am I the only one who thinks that if network jitter can make you fall outside the acceptable price window, maybe, just maybe

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Joel jaeggli
where the incentives are that drive the observed behavior. Kiriki Delany -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:54 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring In a message written on Fri, Feb 17

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Craig cvulja...@gmail.com But also you have to consider, there are a large degree of shorter term players, who are in/out of the market and play both sides, these do have real-time data feeds, and do care about latency. Some shops go as far as to only use a

Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Hank Nussbacher
Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,520 crashes and spikes occurred. Anyone who has

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Rodrick Brown
On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il wrote: Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so quickly that human traders can't

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Jethro R Binks
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,520

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At 13:49 16/02/2012 +, Jethro R Binks wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so quickly that

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Christopher J. Pilkington
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 03:03:55PM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Anyone who has managed a network knows that when you look at your MRTG/Cacti graphs at 5min, 10min ,15min intervals - all looks well. Start looking at 1sec intervals and you will see spikes that hit 100% of capacity - even on

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Jason Chambers
On 2/16/12 5:03 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,520

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Jason Chambers jchamb...@ucla.edu wrote: On 2/16/12 5:03 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/16/12 05:03 , Hank Nussbacher wrote: Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,520

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Paul Graydon
On 2/16/2012 3:03 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,520