Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-06 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/05/2011 06:17 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: On 04/05/2011 05:59 PM, Michael Proto wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jared Mauchja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: Note that the paper Characterizing

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/04/2011 10:48 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Note that the paper Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks by Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year old sample, 30% or so) of broadband head ends are running without RED, and should be doing so if at all possible;

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Jared Mauch
On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: Note that the paper Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks by Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year old sample, 30% or so) of broadband head ends are running without RED, and should be doing so if at all

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Michael Proto
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: Note that the paper Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks by Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year old sample, 30% or so) of

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/05/2011 05:59 PM, Michael Proto wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jared Mauchja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: Note that the paper Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks by Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Jared Mauch
On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: On 04/05/2011 05:59 PM, Michael Proto wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jared Mauchja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: Note that the paper Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks by

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:18:00 +0200 From: Alexander Maassen outsi...@scarynet.org Subject: Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth wil, maybe after all this time you got the router, it gained 7lbs

IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread Michael Ruiz
Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth wil, maybe after all this time you got the router, it gained 7lbs of all the dust in it ? Consider what happens if the carrier encounters a route reflector -- flipping the bird?? Also how port mirrors will cause a collision and the bird will die

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/03/2011 10:04 PM, George Bonser wrote: Sigh... A major opportunity missed. Unfortunately the bufferbloat problem isn't a laughing matter, though I do wish I had thought of this idea in time for my talk. I will include this joke as some levity about the mess we're in as I repeat the

RE: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread George Bonser
In the mean while, we've started work on various AQM and buffer management systems, at www.bufferbloat.net. SFB (Stochastic Fair Blue) went upstream into Linux to aid testing last month, and we have an implementation of eBDP as well with which we are experimenting. Wireless is much more of a

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
Note that the paper Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks by Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year old sample, 30% or so) of broadband head ends are running without RED, and should be doing so if at all possible; alternatives are years out by the time

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-03 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/01/2011 11:44 AM, George Bonser wrote: From: Joao C. Mendes Ogawa Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth FYI --Jonny Ogawa - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - Dang, I was hoping to see an RFC on Bufferbloat

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-03 Thread Christian de Larrinaga
The audio I found at http://ietf80streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf80/ietf80-ch4-wed-am.mp3 Christian On 3 Apr 2011, at 20:53, Jim Gettys wrote: On 04/01/2011 11:44 AM, George Bonser wrote: From: Joao C. Mendes Ogawa Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion

RE: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-03 Thread George Bonser
Sigh... A major opportunity missed. Unfortunately the bufferbloat problem isn't a laughing matter, though I do wish I had thought of this idea in time for my talk. I will include this joke as some levity about the mess we're in as I repeat the talk going forward, and would tie in very

RE: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread George Bonser
From: Joao C. Mendes Ogawa Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth FYI --Jonny Ogawa - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - Dang, I was hoping to see an RFC on Bufferbloat in Avian Carriers and how tail-drop

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread Alexander Maassen
: Stephen H. Inden Subject: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:19:08 +0200 To: Global Environment Watch (GEW) mailing list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 List-Id: GEW mailing list. IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:18:00 +0200 From: Alexander Maassen outsi...@scarynet.org Subject: Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth wil, maybe after all this time you got the router, it gained 7lbs of all the dust in it ? Consider what happens if the carrier encounters a route

Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-03-31 Thread Joao C. Mendes Ogawa
FYI --Jonny Ogawa - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - From: Stephen H. Inden Subject: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:19:08 +0200 To: Global Environment Watch (GEW) mailing list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 List-Id

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-03-31 Thread Wil Schultz
On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Joao C. Mendes Ogawa jonny.og...@gmail.com wrote: FYI --Jonny Ogawa - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - From: Stephen H. Inden Subject: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:19:08 +0200 To: Global