IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Cliff Bowles
I accidentally sent this to nanog-request yesterday. I could use some feedback from anyone that can help, please. Question: will carriers accept IPv6 advertisements smaller than /48? Our org was approved a /36 based on number of locations. The bulk of those IPs will be in the data centers. As

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 09:11:46AM -0700, Cliff Bowles wrote: Question: will carriers accept IPv6 advertisements smaller than /48? Not generally, no. Our org was approved a /36 based on number of locations. The bulk of those IPs will be in the data centers. As we were chopping up the

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Edward Dore
If you’re talking about announcing each location separately, then RIPE have a couple of useful articles about prefix visibility on Ripe Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/ripe-atlas-a-case-study-of-ipv6-48-filtering https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dbayer/visibility-of-prefix-lengths

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Blake Dunlap
Regardless of the carriers, you'll find most ASs on the internet only listen to /48 or larger. So even if you get your prefixes accepted by your provider, don't assume you can get anywhere, or have your packets not fall in to uRPF blackholes randomly without a larger aggregate announcement.

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Laszlo Hanyecz
It's standard to filter out anything longer than /48. Your /36 prefix was chosen based on the number of sites, with a /48 per site, so just keep it simple. Trying to manage it in the way IPv4 addresses were managed will just ensure that you will have the same headaches of micro managing sub

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Cliff Bowles wrote: Question: will carriers accept IPv6 advertisements smaller than /48? Most of the carriers I've seen won't accept anything smaller than /48. You have 4096 /48s to use in your /36. The bigger concern for carriers/ISPs is IPv6 routing table bloat from

RE: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Cliff Bowles
I had a feeling... thanks for the feedback. CWB From: Blake Dunlap [mailto:iki...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:32 AM To: Edward Dore Cc: Cliff Bowles; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements Regardless of the carriers, you'll find most ASs on the internet only

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2013-12-18 17:11 , Cliff Bowles wrote: I accidentally sent this to nanog-request yesterday. I could use some feedback from anyone that can help, please. Question: will carriers accept IPv6 advertisements smaller than /48? Our org was approved a /36 based on number of locations. In GRH

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Antonio M. Moreiras
What do you recommend to an end user that have a direct assignment of a /48, and would like to disaggregate as part of a traffic engineering strategy? Moreiras. On 18/12/13 14:32, Blake Dunlap wrote: Regardless of the carriers, you'll find most ASs on the internet only listen to /48 or larger.

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Blake Dunlap
Your TE is not the rest of the world's routing slot's problem. Get more circuits and do your te with your providers directly. -Blake On Dec 18, 2013 10:57 AM, Antonio M. Moreiras morei...@nic.br wrote: What do you recommend to an end user that have a direct assignment of a /48, and would like

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 18, 2013, at 08:11 , Cliff Bowles cliff.bow...@apollogrp.edu wrote: I accidentally sent this to nanog-request yesterday. I could use some feedback from anyone that can help, please. Question: will carriers accept IPv6 advertisements smaller than /48? Generally, no. Since a /48

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Owen DeLong
Get another /48 for your other location. Owen On Dec 18, 2013, at 08:53 , Antonio M. Moreiras morei...@nic.br wrote: What do you recommend to an end user that have a direct assignment of a /48, and would like to disaggregate as part of a traffic engineering strategy? Moreiras. On

Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Edward Dore
Yes, from a filtering point of view a /48 in IPv6 is pretty similar to a /24 in IPv4, as perfectly illustrated by the two links in my post… My point was that if you are getting the carrier to do the announcement for you then they can announce an aggregated /48 prefix and then break that up

RE: IPv6 /48 advertisements

2013-12-18 Thread Eric C. Miller
Owen, thanks for this explanation. +1! Eric Miller, CCNP Network Engineering Consultant (407) 257-5115 -Original Message- From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 2:07 PM To: Cliff Bowles Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 /48 advertisements