Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-13 Thread Wes Hardaker
 On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:21:12 -0700, George B. geor...@gmail.com said:

GB There is a reason for that.  First of all, we (my employer) took this
GB as a brief test to simply see how much IPv6 traffic there really was,
GB and who and what would actually attempt to reach us by IPv6.  The idea
GB here being to attempt to identify IPv6 native networks.

Yep.  I agree, there are many reasons why you wouldn't want to
participate in a full set of tests.  I never said otherwise!  In fact,
many (very much most) sites didn't participate at all in IPv6 day, so
certainly the ones that did get some kudos for playing at all.

GB The test did, however, expose a bug in a piece of vendor gear that was
GB catastrophic to the business service.

And that's really the point: get up to speed, test things before hand as
best you can, and then test everything you can.  The whole point of the
day was to expose problems (and successes)!  You've exposed one and I'm
sure are looking for fixes for it!  My only real point is that you still
probably don't know what problems exist with the DNS services if you
didn't turn IPv6 support for DNS too.  I do understand your hesitation,
however, as it sounds like you were pretty sure there would be an
issue.
-- 
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My Pictures:  http://capturedonearth.com/
My Thoughts:  http://pontifications.hardakers.net/



Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-09 Thread Wes Hardaker
 On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:59:41 -0500, James Harr james.h...@gmail.com said:

JH I noticed that one of our vendors wasn't actually participating when
JH they very publicly put on their home page that they would. So I
JH queried the IPv6 day participation list to see who didn't have 's
JH for their listed website. It turned out to be around 9.5%

IMHO, it's worse than that.  Most sites only added a  record for
their website, and frequently didn't for their DNS server.  So they
weren't *really* doing a complete IPv6 test, IMHO.

I actually ended up documenting my full results of testing for a number
of things (including DNSSEC, just because I could) at:

http://pontifications.hardakers.net/computers/celebrating-world-ipv6-day-by-testing-the-candidates/

-- 
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My Pictures:  http://capturedonearth.com/
My Thoughts:  http://pontifications.hardakers.net/



Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-09 Thread Joly MacFie
Someone has told me that Microsoft switched off IPv6 for the day. Is that
true? To what extent?

j

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RE: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-09 Thread Schiller, Heather A

They are probably referring to this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2533454/

The following Fix it solution will resolve the issue by configuring
your computer to prefer IPv4, instead of IPv6. By default, Windows
prefers IPv6 over IPv4. This Fix it solution is temporary, to resolve
issues on World IPv6 Day for affected Internet users. On June 10, 2011
at 12:00AM, your computer will be configured to prefer IPv6 again after
your next reboot.

--h 

-Original Message-
From: Joly MacFie [mailto:j...@punkcast.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 3:03 PM
To: Wes Hardaker
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: IPv6 day non-participants

Someone has told me that Microsoft switched off IPv6 for the day. Is
that true? To what extent?

j

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Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-09 Thread George B.

 IMHO, it's worse than that.  Most sites only added a  record for
 their website, and frequently didn't for their DNS server.  So they
 weren't *really* doing a complete IPv6 test, IMHO.

There is a reason for that.  First of all, we (my employer) took this
as a brief test to simply see how much IPv6 traffic there really was,
and who and what would actually attempt to reach us by IPv6.  The idea
here being to attempt to identify IPv6 native networks.

We had to do this in a way that did not break our existing IPv4
services.  We run some services that we do not consider breakable
and our user profile is much different than a web site is.  We might
have millions of clients on a network that are, for the most part,
identically configured.  So for example, if one users device believes
it has IPv6 but doesn't *really* have IPv6 (as a link local IP so it
believes it has IPv6 or has IPv6 inside its network but not clean to
the Internet), then there are probably tens of thousands of
identically configured devices in that customer's network.  So we
don't face the some small fraction of one percent are broken
problem, we face a if one is broken, then a significant portion of
and possibly all of that customer's devices are broken.

If we put IPv6 DNS records in place that caused 100,000 clients to
break, we would have some serious explaining to do. In this case, a
very safe approach was to place an IPv6 address for our web site in
DNS.  None of our business traffic goes to our website.  In the
course of IPv6 day for the roughly 18 hours it was operating, we might
have had 200 hits on IPv6 compared to thousands of transactions per
second on our business protocols.

The test did, however, expose a bug in a piece of vendor gear that was
catastrophic to the business service.  The entire piece of gear blew
up that handles the business traffic in addition to the web traffic.
It rebooted itself but apparently did not boot cleanly.  This was bad
enough but it was rather quickly placed back into service (manual
kick) and happened at the slowest traffic time of the day and few/no
clients would have noticed.  Had we also experienced customer
complaints of slow/poor/no service during the time of the test, it
would have been pretty bad.

So enabling IPv6 DNS had the potential to cause global problems and
not limited to a single data center, it could have had global impact
to the domain.  Placing a single IPv6 DNS glue record and DNS server
in service would have also potentially resulted in local DNS servers
from around the globe that might prefer IPv6 attempting to reach that
one DNS server.  In other words, it would have created a potential
single point of failure and possibly degraded performance. So the IPv6
DNS infrastructure is being rolled out in a planned, methodical
fashion.  Dropping an  record for the web site was an easy thing
to do that was considered very low risk (as we assumed all of our
other gear could simply pass IPv6 packets without exploding) and
offered some participation with the community.

George

(speaking for himself)



Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-09 Thread Jared Mauch

On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:

 Someone has told me that Microsoft switched off IPv6 for the day. Is that
 true? To what extent?

I think this depends on the division.

their search (bing) folks turned it off.

% host www.bing.com.
www.bing.com is an alias for search.ms.com.edgesuite.net.
search.ms.com.edgesuite.net is an alias for a134.b.akamai.net.
a134.b.akamai.net has address 96.17.150.114
a134.b.akamai.net has address 96.17.150.112
a134.b.akamai.net has address 96.17.150.105


their gaming folks (xbox) left it on.

% host www.xbox.com.
www.xbox.com is an alias for www.gtm.xbox.com.
www.gtm.xbox.com is an alias for msxbwsd.vo.llnwd.net.
msxbwsd.vo.llnwd.net has address 208.111.170.165
msxbwsd.vo.llnwd.net has address 68.142.73.109
msxbwsd.vo.llnwd.net has IPv6 address 2607:f4e8:200:12:225:90ff:fe2a:9f9a
msxbwsd.vo.llnwd.net has IPv6 address 2607:f4e8:200:11:230:48ff:fed2:5022

(another view on the world)

2011-06-08.out:www.bing.com.|216.156.249.136,216.156.249.152|2600:1406::5043:4aa7,2600:1406::5043:4a8e|OK|OK|OKOK
2011-06-09.out:www.bing.com.|63.236.253.34,63.236.253.75,63.236.253.82,63.236.253.81,63.236.253.32,63.236.253.41,63.236.253.48,63.236.253.25||OK|Name
 or service not known|

2011-06-08.out:www.xbox.com.|128.242.186.238,128.242.186.198|2001:418:2401:3::c6ad:1531,2001:418:2401:3::c6ad:1548|OK|OK|OKOK
2011-06-09.out:www.xbox.com.|128.242.186.198,128.242.186.238|2a02:26f0:c:1::5c7a:32ba,2a02:26f0:c:1::5c7a:32b2|OK|OK|OKOK





IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread James Harr
I noticed that one of our vendors wasn't actually participating when
they very publicly put on their home page that they would. So I
queried the IPv6 day participation list to see who didn't have 's
for their listed website. It turned out to be around 9.5%

Before you read the list, here's me shedding responsibility with a
list of caveats:
- The crappy perl script I am using might be broken. IE - it doesn't
think about foo.com vs www.foo.com, HTTP redirection, or any of
that.
- The organizations in this list may have withdrawn because they found
out something was terribly broken.
- DNS caching may be skewing the results if the TTLs are long.

 SNIP 
www.xiphiastec.com Xiphiastec
www.pir.orgPublic Interest Registry
www.exactabacus.comExact Abacus
www.comcast.netComcast
www.shazzlemail.comShazzle, LLC
www.bangzoom.com   Bangzoom Software Inc
www.mihostcgi.com  mihostcgi
www.unclesamnames.com  American Domain Names
opendns.comOpenDNS
www.mutali.rw  Mutali
townnews.com   TownNews
www.infoblox.com   Infoblox
www.ripplecom.net  Ripple Communications
www.agame.com  Spil Games
www.alexville.com  Alexville Games
www.hkirc.hk   Hong Kong Internet Registration Corporation
www.hkdnr.hk   Hong Kong Domain Name Registration
www.buffalo.feb.govUnited States Office of Personnel Management
www.cyberport.hk   Hong Kong Cyberport Management Ltd
www.catnix.com CATNIX
sucomo.com Sucomo OHG
www.mybrighthouse.com  BrightHouse Networks
www.it-in.ru   it-in
ivancorp.net   Ivanhoe-IT
www.forestdaleinc.org  Forestdale Inc
www.towerstream.comTowerstream
www.intuix.com Intuix LLC
suse.org   Novell Inc.
www.IronNails.com  IronNails Consultancy
www.orbitdiensten.com  Orbit-Diensten
madonnaradio.com   Voila
www.gov.bc.ca  Government of British Columbia
www.zte.com.cn ZTE Corporation
www.tamagawa.jpTamagawa Academy  University


-- 
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Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread Chris Grundemann
ISOC has a red/green dashboard of individual (non)participants:
http://www.worldipv6day.org/participant-websites/index.html

Cheers,
~Chris

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 09:59, James Harr james.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 I noticed that one of our vendors wasn't actually participating when
 they very publicly put on their home page that they would. So I
 queried the IPv6 day participation list to see who didn't have 's
 for their listed website. It turned out to be around 9.5%

 Before you read the list, here's me shedding responsibility with a
 list of caveats:
 - The crappy perl script I am using might be broken. IE - it doesn't
 think about foo.com vs www.foo.com, HTTP redirection, or any of
 that.
 - The organizations in this list may have withdrawn because they found
 out something was terribly broken.
 - DNS caching may be skewing the results if the TTLs are long.

  SNIP 
 www.xiphiastec.com             Xiphiastec
 www.pir.org                    Public Interest Registry
 www.exactabacus.com            Exact Abacus
 www.comcast.net                Comcast
 www.shazzlemail.com            Shazzle, LLC
 www.bangzoom.com               Bangzoom Software Inc
 www.mihostcgi.com              mihostcgi
 www.unclesamnames.com          American Domain Names
 opendns.com                    OpenDNS
 www.mutali.rw                  Mutali
 townnews.com                   TownNews
 www.infoblox.com               Infoblox
 www.ripplecom.net              Ripple Communications
 www.agame.com                  Spil Games
 www.alexville.com              Alexville Games
 www.hkirc.hk                   Hong Kong Internet Registration Corporation
 www.hkdnr.hk                   Hong Kong Domain Name Registration
 www.buffalo.feb.gov            United States Office of Personnel Management
 www.cyberport.hk               Hong Kong Cyberport Management Ltd
 www.catnix.com                 CATNIX
 sucomo.com                     Sucomo OHG
 www.mybrighthouse.com          BrightHouse Networks
 www.it-in.ru                   it-in
 ivancorp.net                   Ivanhoe-IT
 www.forestdaleinc.org          Forestdale Inc
 www.towerstream.com            Towerstream
 www.intuix.com                 Intuix LLC
 suse.org                       Novell Inc.
 www.IronNails.com              IronNails Consultancy
 www.orbitdiensten.com          Orbit-Diensten
 madonnaradio.com               Voila
 www.gov.bc.ca                  Government of British Columbia
 www.zte.com.cn                 ZTE Corporation
 www.tamagawa.jp                Tamagawa Academy  University


 --
 ^[:wq^M





-- 
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weblog.chrisgrundemann.com
www.burningwiththebush.com
www.theIPv6experts.net
www.coisoc.org



RE: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread Matt Frazer
The list of TownNews domains participating can be found here:

http://www.townnews365.com/ipv6/

-mjf


-Original Message-
From: James Harr [mailto:james.h...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:00 PM
To: nanog
Subject: IPv6 day non-participants

I noticed that one of our vendors wasn't actually participating when
they very publicly put on their home page that they would. So I
queried the IPv6 day participation list to see who didn't have 's
for their listed website. It turned out to be around 9.5%

Before you read the list, here's me shedding responsibility with a
list of caveats:
- The crappy perl script I am using might be broken. IE - it doesn't
think about foo.com vs www.foo.com, HTTP redirection, or any of
that.
- The organizations in this list may have withdrawn because they found
out something was terribly broken.
- DNS caching may be skewing the results if the TTLs are long.

 SNIP 





RE: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread Matt Frazer

The list of TownNews domains participating can be found here:

http://www.townnews365.com/ipv6/

 ahwatukee.com
 alpineavalanche.com
 anchoragepress.com
 aransaspassprogress.com
 argus-press.com
 auburnpub.com
 azdailysun.com
 banderabulletin.com
 beatricedailysun.com
 belgrade-news.com
 bigbeargrizzly.net
 billingsgazette.com
 bismarcktribune.com
 bloxcms-ny1.com
 bloxcms.com
 boernestar.com
 bonnercountydailybee.com
 bonnersferryherald.com
 bozemandailychronicle.com
 breezejmu.org
 cameronherald.com
 camplejeuneglobe.com
 carrollcountytimes.com
 casperjournal.com
 cdapress.com
 cdapressextra.com
 chetekalert.com
 chieftain.com
 chippewa.com
 citizen.com
 coastreportonline.com
 codyenterprise.com
 colletontoday.com
 coloradocountycitizen.com
 columbiabasinherald.com
 columbustelegram.com
 coronadonewsca.com
 cumberlink.com
 dailyjournalonline.com
 dailyleader.com
 dailyrecordnews.com
 dailytoreador.com
 democratherald.com
 doaneline.com
 douglas-budget.com
 eastvalleytribune.com
 elgincourier.com
 elkodaily.com
 enterprise-journal.com
 explorernews.com
 farmandranchguide.com
 flatheadnewsgroup.com
 florala.net
 fltimes.com
 forest-blade.com
 fortcampbellcourier.com
 fortstocktonpioneer.com
 fremonttribune.com
 fromthevine.info
 ftleetraveller.com
 gazettetimes.com
 gettysburgtimes.com
 glendalestar.com
 globegazette.com
 goac.com
 gonzalesinquirer.com
 gvnews.com
 hanfordsentinel.com
 helenair.com
 herald-review.com
 heraldextra.com
 hillcountrynews.com
 hmbreview.com
 houstonherald.com
 huskerextra.com
 huskerfootball.com
 iberianet.com
 idahopress.com
 illelections.com
 imperialbeachnewsca.com
 indianapolisrecorder.com
 insidetucsonbusiness.com
 iowastatedaily.com
 jg-tc.com
 journalnet.com
 journalreview.com
 journalstar.com
 journaltimes.com
 katytimes.com
 keepmecurrent.com
 kokomoperspective.com
 lacrossetribune.com
 lakeexpo.com
 leaderadvertiser.com
 leadertelegram.com
 lebanon-express.com
 leecmstraining.com
 leetemplates.com
 livingstonparishnews.com
 lodinews.com
 lompocrecord.com
 lonepeaklookout.com
 loyolaphoenix.com
 madisonvillemeteor.com
 magiccitymagazine.com
 magicvalley.com
 magnoliareporter.com
 marlindemocrat.com
 maysville-online.com
 messenger-index.com
 midwestproducer.com
 minnesotafarmguide.com
 mississippilink.com
 missoulian.com
 mountain-news.com
 mtstandard.com
 murrayledger.com
 muscatinejournal.com
 mycaldwellcounty.com
 mycarrollcountynews.com
 mynwmo.com
 napavalleyregister.com
 navasotaexaminer.com
 nctimes.com
 newjerseyhills.com
 news-expressky.com
 news-graphic.com
 norfolknavyflagship.com
 nwitimes.com
 nwmissourinews.com
 ourcoloradonews.com
 outdoornews.com
 ozarkcountytimes.com
 pantagraph.com
 peoriatimes.com
 portlavacawave.com
 poststar.com
 pressofatlanticcity.com
 priestrivertimes.com
 qctimes.com
 rapidcityjournal.com
 ravallirepublic.com
 riverfloodwatch.com
 rrdailyherald.com
 rrobserver.com
 salamancapress.com
 santamariatimes.com
 savvyshopperdeals.com
 scene262.com
 sealynews.com
 seasidesignal.com
 shoshonenewspress.com
 siouxcityjournal.com
 statehornet.com
 syvnews.com
 taylordailypress.net
 tdn.com
 terrelltribune.com
 tetonvalleynews.net
 the-standard.org
 thechiefleader.com
 thecountrytoday.com
 theeaglepost.us
 thegardenisland.com
 thehuttonews.com
 theorion.com
 theprairiestar.com
 therandolphleader.com
 theroyalregister.com
 thesouthern.com
 thetandd.com
 thevindicator.com
 thewesternnews.com
 thewetumpkaherald.com
 theworldlink.com
 tipofyourfingers.com
 townnews-cms.com
 townnews365.com
 trib.com
 tristate-media.com
 tristateneighbor.com
 utownnews.com
 uvaldeleadernews.com
 voiceoftheironrange.com
 vp-mi.com
 wcfcourier.com
 wereadnatrona.com
 westyellowstonenews.com
 winonadailynews.com
 yourwestvalley.com


-mjf


-Original Message-
From: James Harr [mailto:james.h...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:00 PM
To: nanog
Subject: IPv6 day non-participants

I noticed that one of our vendors wasn't actually participating when
they very publicly put on their home page that they would. So I
queried the IPv6 day participation list to see who didn't have 's
for their listed website. It turned out to be around 9.5%

Before you read the list, here's me shedding responsibility with a
list of caveats:
- The crappy perl script I am using might be broken. IE - it doesn't
think about foo.com vs www.foo.com, HTTP redirection, or any of
that.
- The organizations in this list may have withdrawn because they found
out something was terribly broken.
- DNS caching may be skewing the results if the TTLs are long.

 SNIP 





Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread George B.
Was participating until we hit a rather nasty load balancer bug that
took out the entire unit if clients with a short MTU connected and it
needed to fragment packets (Citrix Netscaler running latest code).  No
fix is available for it yet, so we had to shut it down.  Ran for about
9 hours before the magic client that blew it up connected.

So if you are using a Netscaler with SLB-PT (IPv6 VIP balancing to
IPv4 servers), the entire LB is subject to stop working until they get
this fixed.



Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread Joly MacFie
I notice that that page currently lists as http://www.bbc.co.uk/  as
unreachable via IPv4 ! ?

j

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Chris Grundemann cgrundem...@gmail.comwrote:

 ISOC has a red/green dashboard of individual (non)participants:
 http://www.worldipv6day.org/participant-websites/index.html

 Cheers,
 ~Chris



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Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
 http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
 VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
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Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread Griffiths, Chris
The ISOC dashboard that Chris mentions is indeed accurate and up to date
from our perspective.  Comcast is definitely an active participant with
our website http://xfinity.comcast.net, which is live with a published
 and is IPv6 reachable.

Thanks
--
Chris Griffiths
Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.


On 6/8/11 12:16 PM, Chris Grundemann cgrundem...@gmail.com wrote:

ISOC has a red/green dashboard of individual (non)participants:
http://www.worldipv6day.org/participant-websites/index.html

Cheers,
~Chris

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 09:59, James Harr james.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 I noticed that one of our vendors wasn't actually participating when
 they very publicly put on their home page that they would. So I
 queried the IPv6 day participation list to see who didn't have 's
 for their listed website. It turned out to be around 9.5%

 Before you read the list, here's me shedding responsibility with a
 list of caveats:
 - The crappy perl script I am using might be broken. IE - it doesn't
 think about foo.com vs www.foo.com, HTTP redirection, or any of
 that.
 - The organizations in this list may have withdrawn because they found
 out something was terribly broken.
 - DNS caching may be skewing the results if the TTLs are long.

  SNIP 
 www.xiphiastec.com Xiphiastec
 www.pir.orgPublic Interest Registry
 www.exactabacus.comExact Abacus
 www.comcast.netComcast
 www.shazzlemail.comShazzle, LLC
 www.bangzoom.com   Bangzoom Software Inc
 www.mihostcgi.com  mihostcgi
 www.unclesamnames.com  American Domain Names
 opendns.comOpenDNS
 www.mutali.rw  Mutali
 townnews.com   TownNews
 www.infoblox.com   Infoblox
 www.ripplecom.net  Ripple Communications
 www.agame.com  Spil Games
 www.alexville.com  Alexville Games
 www.hkirc.hk   Hong Kong Internet Registration
Corporation
 www.hkdnr.hk   Hong Kong Domain Name Registration
 www.buffalo.feb.govUnited States Office of Personnel
Management
 www.cyberport.hk   Hong Kong Cyberport Management Ltd
 www.catnix.com CATNIX
 sucomo.com Sucomo OHG
 www.mybrighthouse.com  BrightHouse Networks
 www.it-in.ru   it-in
 ivancorp.net   Ivanhoe-IT
 www.forestdaleinc.org  Forestdale Inc
 www.towerstream.comTowerstream
 www.intuix.com Intuix LLC
 suse.org   Novell Inc.
 www.IronNails.com  IronNails Consultancy
 www.orbitdiensten.com  Orbit-Diensten
 madonnaradio.com   Voila
 www.gov.bc.ca  Government of British Columbia
 www.zte.com.cn ZTE Corporation
 www.tamagawa.jpTamagawa Academy  University


 --
 ^[:wq^M





-- 
@ChrisGrundemann
weblog.chrisgrundemann.com
www.burningwiththebush.com
www.theIPv6experts.net
www.coisoc.org





Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:49 PM, George B. wrote:

 Was participating until we hit a rather nasty load balancer bug that
 took out the entire unit if clients with a short MTU connected and it
 needed to fragment packets (Citrix Netscaler running latest code).  No
 fix is available for it yet, so we had to shut it down.  Ran for about
 9 hours before the magic client that blew it up connected.
 
 So if you are using a Netscaler with SLB-PT (IPv6 VIP balancing to
 IPv4 servers), the entire LB is subject to stop working until they get
 this fixed.

And this is EXACTLY why we needed World IPv6 Day.

Thank you for participating.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick




Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread David Israel

On 6/8/2011 6:18 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:49 PM, George B. wrote:


Was participating until we hit a rather nasty load balancer bug that
took out the entire unit if clients with a short MTU connected and it
needed to fragment packets (Citrix Netscaler running latest code).  No
fix is available for it yet, so we had to shut it down.  Ran for about
9 hours before the magic client that blew it up connected.

So if you are using a Netscaler with SLB-PT (IPv6 VIP balancing to
IPv4 servers), the entire LB is subject to stop working until they get
this fixed.

And this is EXACTLY why we needed World IPv6 Day.


It is also probably why doing it again next month is too aggressive, and 
why we probably should have started doing them earlier.  I wonder how 
many bug reports got filed today?


-Dave




Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread Jorge Amodio
 So if you are using a Netscaler with SLB-PT (IPv6 VIP balancing to
 IPv4 servers), the entire LB is subject to stop working until they get
 this fixed.

 And this is EXACTLY why we needed World IPv6 Day.

Agreed, right on the money !!

Traffic stats may not say a lot yet due to tunnels and lack of native
IPv6 connectivity but finding this type of bugs is a major reason to
do live tests, even if the test fails.

Next one ? a month seems to be too soon, I guess there is a lot of
useful data to crunch and analyze and fixes to do, but sure we need
more live IPv6 activity.

I think it would be cool if for the next one, some major broadband
access providers take IPv6 down to the end customer, and not just
commercial customers. I know that CPE could be an issue but we need to
reach that layer. It does not help that the test says that my machine
and browser are ready when in the middle I've a brick that won't
work..

Cheers
Jorge



Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread George B.
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote:
 So if you are using a Netscaler with SLB-PT (IPv6 VIP balancing to
 IPv4 servers), the entire LB is subject to stop working until they get
 this fixed.

 And this is EXACTLY why we needed World IPv6 Day.

 Agreed, right on the money !!

 Traffic stats may not say a lot yet due to tunnels and lack of native
 IPv6 connectivity but finding this type of bugs is a major reason to
 do live tests, even if the test fails.

Well, we are still attempting to recreate the problem.  It isn't
something as simple as someone coming in over a tunnel with a small
MTU with a larger advertised MSS.  There is some magic that must
happen to actually put the unit in this state.  We ran for 9 hours
before and 9 hours after the hiccup without any problems.

So it is going to take a while before we are ready to test this again
live.  The sooner I can recreate the problem, the better, though.



Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-08 Thread Shahid Shafi
I dont think ISOC dashboard is updating any more. Google is no longer
advertising  but dashboard still shows green and TTLs were short on
those records.

\\

;  DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2  www.google.com in 
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15535
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.google.com.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com.588628INCNAMEwww.l.google.com.

;; Query time: 191 msec
;; SERVER: 2620:0:ccc::2#53(2620:0:ccc::2)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun  8 18:08:38 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 52



On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:16 PM, George B. geor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote:
  So if you are using a Netscaler with SLB-PT (IPv6 VIP balancing to
  IPv4 servers), the entire LB is subject to stop working until they get
  this fixed.
 
  And this is EXACTLY why we needed World IPv6 Day.
 
  Agreed, right on the money !!
 
  Traffic stats may not say a lot yet due to tunnels and lack of native
  IPv6 connectivity but finding this type of bugs is a major reason to
  do live tests, even if the test fails.

 Well, we are still attempting to recreate the problem.  It isn't
 something as simple as someone coming in over a tunnel with a small
 MTU with a larger advertised MSS.  There is some magic that must
 happen to actually put the unit in this state.  We ran for 9 hours
 before and 9 hours after the hiccup without any problems.

 So it is going to take a while before we are ready to test this again
 live.  The sooner I can recreate the problem, the better, though.