e 23, 2018 5:16 PM
To: Jean | ddostest.me
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 12:27:35 -0400, "Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG" said:
> Because, Apple adds a 25 ms artifical penalty to ipv4 dns resolution.
>
> https:/
On 25/Jun/18 15:57, Ben Cannon wrote:
> I’ll cop to ubiquiti at home and at work too (mainly for Wi-Fi and some ptp
> backhaul in which they are very strong). Any kind of HA in their routers
> keeps them out my enterprise clients of mine, let alone my network core.
With pressure on pricing
I’ll cop to ubiquiti at home and at work too (mainly for Wi-Fi and some ptp
backhaul in which they are very strong). Any kind of HA in their routers keeps
them out my enterprise clients of mine, let alone my network core.
-Ben
On Jun 25, 2018, at 6:50 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> That was a good
> That was a good tip, as I hadn't seen these before this thread.
they also make a good small-isp or large office router for USD 300
https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-pro/
> One thing I like about the MikroTik is that it goes forever without
> needing a reboot.
while i have not run a
On 23/Jun/18 20:14, Randy Bush wrote:
> in small corners, e.g. home, i use ubiquiti erx. i use the cli for
> config, and the gooey for watching traffic levels in pretty colors.
> they play well with both concast and at u-verse ipv4 and ipv6.
That was a good tip, as I hadn't seen these before
On 23/Jun/18 13:17, Jared Mauch wrote:
> I’ve found most folks doing Tik need the GUI, etc to interact with the
> devices. I can’t say I blame them in some ways either. Have you tried to
> upgrade an IOS-XR device before?
If I'm honest, one of the reasons I continue to go with the MX480
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Jared Mauch"
To: "Mark Tinka"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 6:17:15 AM
Subject: Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap
> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Mark Tinka w
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
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From: "Mark Tinka"
To: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 6:23:21 AM
Subject: Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) a
nt: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:06:24 PM
Subject: Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap
> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:55 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
> On 6/19/18 8:48 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> MikroTik is getting there but most people are just not enabling it
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 12:27:35 -0400, "Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG" said:
> Because, Apple adds a 25 ms artifical penalty to ipv4 dns resolution.
>
> https://ma.ttias.be/apple-favours-ipv6-gives-ipv4-a-25ms-penalty/
Umm.. It's 3 year old news that Apple implemented Happy Eyeballs.
And if you
in small corners, e.g. home, i use ubiquiti erx. i use the cli for
config, and the gooey for watching traffic levels in pretty colors.
they play well with both concast and at u-verse ipv4 and ipv6.
in san jose $dayjob, i am stuck with a cisco asa for cpe, a 1990s retro
antique providing job
: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 7:46 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap
On 06/11/2018 05:16 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
--- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ca By
Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA
reach them via ipv6
And Akaimai
> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
>
>
> On 22/Jun/18 15:05, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:
>
>> I’m not really sure “you get what you pay for” … compare with OpenWRT … you
>> have frequent updates, even in days when some important security flaw is
>> discovered,
On 22/Jun/18 15:05, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:
> I’m not really sure “you get what you pay for” … compare with OpenWRT … you
> have frequent updates, even in days when some important security flaw is
> discovered, as it happened a few months ago with WiFi. You can even develop
>
the LTE interface, but space for it).
Regards,
Jordi
De: Mark Tinka
Fecha: viernes, 22 de junio de 2018, 13:23
Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
CC: "nanog@nanog.org"
Asunto: Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap
On 22/Jun/18 12:47, JORDI PALET MART
On 22/Jun/18 12:47, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>
> Yeah I can confirm, as I tested it several times, 6to4 for them is
> proto41, but it is very confusing and against standards nomenclature …
> This don’t say anything good from a vendor, in my opinion!
>
Even those networks I know running
The problem with its IPv6 support is that is only supporting 6in4, which by the
way, they call it 6to4, so it is very weird and confusing customers ...
That "6-to-4 actually means 6-in-4" was quite confusing to me as well. I just
enabled it to prove that they had a language moment there. Good
On 22/Jun/18 10:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:
>
> The problem with its IPv6 support is that is only supporting 6in4, which by
> the way, they call it 6to4, so it is very weird and confusing customers ...
That "6-to-4 actually means 6-in-4" was quite confusing to me as well. I
we end up reflashing then with OpenWRT.
Regards,
Jordi
-Mensaje original-
De: NANOG en nombre de Mark Tinka
Fecha: viernes, 22 de junio de 2018, 9:07
Para: Jared Mauch , Job Snijders
CC: North American Network Operators' Group
Asunto: Re: IPv6 faster/better proof
On 20/Jun/18 06:06, Jared Mauch wrote:
> I know. They’re very popular in the WISP and FTTH communities that are doing
> sub-10G as their aggregate bits. I understand the price appeal but not a fan
> personally.
Not a fan either for the backbone, even though a lot of ISP's in South
Africa
On 20/Jun/18 05:48, Jared Mauch wrote:
> MikroTik is getting there but most people are just not enabling it either.
I have a MikroTik hAP Lite router for my FTTH service at my house.
It has excellent support for IPv6, including a ton of translation
mechanisms.
My problem is my home provider
> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:55 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
> On 6/19/18 8:48 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> MikroTik is getting there but most people are just not enabling it either.
>
>
> RouterOS still has "will not fix" IPv6 bugs, so that doesn't help shops
> dependent on Mikrotik want to move
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:56 PM Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
> On 6/19/18 8:48 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> > MikroTik is getting there but most people are just not enabling it either.
>
>
> RouterOS still has "will not fix" IPv6 bugs, so that doesn't help shops
> dependent on Mikrotik want to move forward
On 6/19/18 8:48 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
MikroTik is getting there but most people are just not enabling it either.
RouterOS still has "will not fix" IPv6 bugs, so that doesn't help shops
dependent on Mikrotik want to move forward with deploying it.
> On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Job Snijders wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 05:01:24PM -0700, Ca By wrote:
>>> I posit that the more miles a packet has to travel, the more likely
>>> it is to be an IPv4 packet.
>>
>> Related. The more miles the traffic travels the more likely it is the
>>
faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap
On 06/11/2018 05:16 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
>
> --- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> From: Ca By
>
>> Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA
>> reach them via ipv6
>>
>> And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles
&
On 06/11/2018 05:16 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
--- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ca By
Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA
reach them via ipv6
And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles
And they both report ipv6 is faster / better.
Let me
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 05:01:24PM -0700, Ca By wrote:
> > I posit that the more miles a packet has to travel, the more likely
> > it is to be an IPv4 packet.
>
> Related. The more miles the traffic travels the more likely it is the
> long tail ipv4 15% of internet that is not the wales : google,
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:08 PM Job Snijders wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Ca By wrote:
> > A similar take, is that big eyeballs (tmobile, comcast, sprint, att,
> verizon
> > wireless) and big content (goog, fb, akamai, netflix) are ipv6. Whats
> left
> > on ipv4 is the long tail
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Ca By wrote:
>
> A similar take, is that big eyeballs (tmobile, comcast, sprint, att,
> verizon wireless)
>
There're a lot of big eyeball networks missing from that list. Spectrum
biz class, no IPv6, for one. And some big "content"-ish ones, too.
Google's
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Ca By wrote:
> A similar take, is that big eyeballs (tmobile, comcast, sprint, att, verizon
> wireless) and big content (goog, fb, akamai, netflix) are ipv6. Whats left
> on ipv4 is the long tail of people asking for help on how to buy a /24
Joking aside, I
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:29 PM Job Snijders wrote:
> I suspect that this may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>
> Perhaps lack of IPv6 is more prevalent in rural areas with poorer
> connectivity to the rest of the Internet? Perhaps both these CDNs
> serve content for different types of
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:29 PM Job Snijders wrote:
> I suspect that this may not be an apples to apples comparison.
>
> Perhaps lack of IPv6 is more prevalent in rural areas with poorer
> connectivity to the rest of the Internet? Perhaps both these CDNs
> serve content for different types of
I suspect that this may not be an apples to apples comparison.
Perhaps lack of IPv6 is more prevalent in rural areas with poorer
connectivity to the rest of the Internet? Perhaps both these CDNs
serve content for different types of devices over the different AFIs
(maybe old mediaboxes with a slow
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
> Hmm... Faster and better?
>
> The links seem to be an IPv6 cheerleader write up.
> I looked at the URLs and the URLs one pointed to and
> pulled out everything related to IPv6 being
> faster/better.
>
>
Is it possible that simply having a
--- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ca By
> Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA
> reach them via ipv6
>
> And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles
And they both report ipv6 is faster / better.
Hmm... Faster and better?
The links seem
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