Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-11-03 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On further reflection: It occurs to me that if a lone researcher conducted such an intrusion against the security and privacy of email (and its contents) (and its users), possible outcomes might include a raid by heavily-armed authorities, confiscation of anything that even looks like an

RE: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-28 Thread Leo Vegoda
Jimmy Hess wrote: [...] This may be easier than you think, if remote account access is allowed only using Web-based mail, and company managed mobile devices. Whitelist the cell carrier's mobile network, using ActiveSync. An IMAP connection attempt from anywhere is immediately suspect.

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-27 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com This could be a useful proactive countermeasure against the UIT (Unintentional Insider Threat); of employees inappropriately entering corporate e-mail credentials into a known third party service with outside of organizational

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Baribault
It's opt-in in that if you bother to read the 240,405 pager of the agreement when you install the 'upgrade' software, then you have in fact opted in .. so legally (IANAL) you have opted in. BS! Gary B Gary Baribault Courriel: g...@baribault.net GPG Key: 0x685430d1 Fingerprint: 9E4D 1B7C CB9F

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-27 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Alas, it can't. Using it against LI would work, cause you have a hope of knowing what address space their proxies are in. LI's behavior is unique. LI is probably the only one you need to detect. You can't do that

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Chris Hartley hartl...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone who has access to logs for their email infrastructure ought probably to check for authentications to user accounts from linkedin's servers. [snip] Perhaps a prudent countermeasure would be to redirect all POP,

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Well said -- Jason Hellenthal Voice: 95.30.17.6/616 JJH48-ARIN On Oct 26, 2013, at 2:06, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Chris Hartley hartl...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone who has access to logs for their email infrastructure ought probably to check for

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Laszlo Hanyecz
When a user signs up for a social media account they generally do so by providing an email address like vic...@freewebmailsite.com and selecting a password. The social media site can obviously probe freewebmailsite.com and attempt to authenticate using the same password that you just provided

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
There's a reason I use an email alias if I sign up to places like that and why I do not place much information on these sites... There's a reason I maintain somewhere approaching 20 passwords in my head too and why the password I use for accessing my own systems will never be the password I use

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Rich Kulawiec
(My apologies to those of you who are also on the mailop list and have already seen these remarks.) This isn't particularly surprising: LinkedIn are spammers. Have been since forever. They hit real addresses, fake addresses, mailing lists, spamtraps, never-existed addresses, everything. And

RE: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Phil Bedard
I had to answer the question of Why is LinkedIn asking for my GMail account information to one of my parents recently. Oh it is so they can access your information and use it It is how some random guys I play tennis with in a league keep popping up as people I should add, since they likely

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Michael Thomas
Chris Hartley wrote: Anyone who has access to logs for their email infrastructure ought probably to check for authentications to user accounts from linkedin's servers. Likely, people in your organization are entering their credentials into linkedin to add to their contact list. Is it a problem

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Gary Baribault
The other difference is that Google tells you up front, LinkedIn installed this out of the bleue without any real permissions. Of course if this where an opt in thing, nobody would be opting in! Well, I never did install their app and most certainly never will, and am telling all of my friends

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Scott Howard
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Gary Baribault g...@baribault.net wrote: The other difference is that Google tells you up front, LinkedIn installed this out of the bleue without any real permissions. Of course if this where an opt in thing, nobody would be opting in! Well, I never did

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Michael Thomas
Scott Howard wrote: Have you actually confirmed it's NOT opt-in? The screenshots on the Linked-in engineering blog referenced earlier certainly make it look like it is. http://engineering.linkedin.com/sites/default/files/intro_installer_0.png Of course, you could argue there's a difference

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Andre Tomt
On 26. okt. 2013 08:06, Jimmy Hess wrote: Perhaps a prudent countermeasure would be to redirect all POP, IMAP, and Webmail access to your corporate mail server from all of LinkedIn's IP space to a Honeypot that will simply log usernames/credentials attempted. The list of valid

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-26 Thread Phil Bedard
I don't see that happening. I have heard of a couple companies sending out emails saying installing it violates company IT policies and I'm sure those using MDM will create policies to disable it. It's one of those things which should probably just fade into history quietly. Maybe

If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Shrdlu
I hate to do this, but it's something that anyone managing email servers (or just using a smart phone to update LI) needs to know about. I just saw this on another list I'm on, and I know that there are folks on NANOG that are on LinkedIn. ++

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Jim Shankland
Well, this concerned me at first, but then I read the description of how it's done (http://engineering.linkedin.com/mobile/linkedin-intro-doing-impossible-ios): We understand that operating an email proxy server carries great responsibility. We respect the fact that your email may

RE: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Network IPdog
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RE: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

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Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread George Bakos
next thing you know, Google is going to be offering free email so they can do the same thing. On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:45:40 -0700 Shrdlu shr...@deaddrop.org wrote: I hate to do this, but it's something that anyone managing email servers (or just using a smart phone to update LI) needs to know

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Phil Bedard
I saw some antectdotal stuff on this yesterday but reading their engineering blog entry makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Oh nevermind, that's just the alcohol. This is perhaps one of the worst ideas I've seen concocted by a social media company yet. -Phil On 10/25/13, 6:56 PM, George

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Paul WALL
Adding Zaid Ali Khan for feedback. On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Shrdlu shr...@deaddrop.org wrote: I hate to do this, but it's something that anyone managing email servers (or just using a smart phone to update LI) needs to know about. I just saw this on another list I'm on, and I know

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 22:56:48 -, George Bakos said: next thing you know, Google is going to be offering free email so they can do the same thing. The difference is that Google only does it to your @gmail.com address. It doesn't snarf up all your outbound gba...@alpinista.org mail too.

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Jay Farrell
And then of course there was this: http://www.informationweek.com/social-business/social_networking_consumer/linkedin-responds-to-email-grabbing-suit/240161630 Linkedin denies the allegations, but I'm convinced there's something to them. I was receiving a steady stream of linkedin invites on

Re: If you're on LinkedIn, and you use a smart phone...

2013-10-25 Thread Chris Hartley
Anyone who has access to logs for their email infrastructure ought probably to check for authentications to user accounts from linkedin's servers. Likely, people in your organization are entering their credentials into linkedin to add to their contact list. Is it a problem if a social media