On 20/09/11 7:15 AM, Jason Baugher wrote:
Horses are okay, but you have to tie things to the wire so they can
see it. They're too dumb to remember where it is, apparently.
This has nothing to do with the horse's ability to see or remember where
the fence it. It has to do with the value
while we still lived on the farm, two vallies away was gordon, who ran a
dairy farm, milked, and delivered around coos and curry counties twice a
week. he told of deciding to go down to the big city, san francisco.
so he put good clothes on and packed a suitcase and headed south (a long
day
On 9/22/2011 9:58 AM, JC Dill wrote:
On 20/09/11 7:15 AM, Jason Baugher wrote:
Horses are okay, but you have to tie things to the wire so they can
see it. They're too dumb to remember where it is, apparently.
This has nothing to do with the horse's ability to see or remember
where the
On 9/22/2011 8:31 AM, Jason Baugher wrote:
On 9/22/2011 9:58 AM, JC Dill wrote:
[re: horses]
Other livestock aren't as likely to cause fatal injuries to car
occupants if they are hit, because the animal's body is lower to the
road, less likely to come over the hood.
That's interesting to
Can we take this offline? I don't believe livestock behavior patterns have
much operational content.
Thanks,
Chuck
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From: Jason Baugher [mailto:ja...@thebaughers.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:31 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Internet mauled
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:55:04 EDT, Chuck Church said:
Can we take this offline? I don't believe livestock behavior patterns have
much operational content.
What's the mathematical difference between modelling a sheep
stampede and modelling a slashdotting? The word is sheeple for
a reason...
Baugher
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Internet mauled by bears
On the other hand, I've been told that during a power outage cattle can
sometimes smell that the electricity is gone... all their noses start
sniffing after one in the pasture starts... and make a run for it...
Probably is an old
On 9/19/11 18:49 , Richard Barnes wrote:
And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be
cooked by the time the crew gets there!
montana experience says:
cows have rather thick skin, sheep come with insulation, and bison will
go through anything that gets in their way
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:37:55AM -0700, Joel jaeggli wrote:
cows have rather thick skin, sheep come with insulation, and bison will
go through anything that gets in their way including 3 x 6 diameter
corner posts and 4 strands of barbed and 2 hot wires.
horses on the other hand are
On 9/20/2011 2:37 AM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
On 9/19/11 18:49 , Richard Barnes wrote:
And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be
cooked by the time the crew gets there!
montana experience says:
cows have rather thick skin, sheep come with insulation, and bison will
On 09/20/11 00:37, Joel jaeggli wrote:
livestock always ends up on the other side of the fence...
Must be the greener pastures.
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--MCP
On the other hand, I've been told that during a power outage cattle can
sometimes smell that the electricity is gone... all their noses start
sniffing after one in the pasture starts... and make a run for it...
Probably is an old wives tale...
Yeah, Sheep or Goat proof fence? Good luck. Here
One more problem: Many of these rural mountain small WISP towers (such as
Idaho from this article), do not have electricity. Winter access is via
snow machine, snow-shoe, or helicopter, -- and power is obtained via solar
panels and batteries. They are often placed on forest service or BLM land,
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
He pointed out that these are the kind of problems city folk probably don't
have in an urban area because there is a bear shortage.
And backwoods towns have rednecks with shotguns, and bubba the backhoe
driver exists everywhere
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From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com]
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
He pointed out that these are the kind of problems city
folk probably
don't have in an urban area because there is a bear shortage.
Worth a read:
http://blog.level3.com/2011/08/04/the-10-most-bizarre-and-annoying-causes-of-fiber-cuts/
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jason LeBlanc j...@packetpimp.org wrote:
We have had fiber shot with what apparently was apparently a handgun in
down town Miami. Interesting that is
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:45 AM
To: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: Internet mauled by bears
-Original Message-
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com]
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
He pointed out
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:20 AM, John van Oppen
jvanop...@spectrumnet.us wrote:
We had a cow break down a door to a remote microwave site once... now we
are the proud owners of a generator backed electric fence at that site...
Rural physical plant issues are almost always entertaining.
And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be
cooked by the time the crew gets there!
On Sep 19, 2011 9:34 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:20 AM, John van Oppen
jvanop...@spectrumnet.us wrote:
We had a cow br...
Your
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:49, Richard Barnes richard.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be
cooked by the time the crew gets there!
Not quite. The point of the electric fence is to discourage
moooving through it, but you do not want
On Sep 19, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Richard Barnes wrote:
And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be
cooked by the time the crew gets there!
Nah, they are high frequency and high voltage, but very low current. It's
uncomfortable and may cause local burning similar to
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