RE: L2 redundant VPN

2013-01-22 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
 Run MPLS over these four boxes and build L2 pseudowires across

Using link bundling and one router at each end has faster convergence and
it's cheaper, you can do l2tpv3 if you can't have mpls

adam






L2 redundant VPN

2013-01-21 Thread Tomas Podermanski
Hi networking guys,

I need some help :-). We try to find for our department reliable
solution for L2 VPN. The task is to connect two remote data centers,
each of them connected two 1Gbps  lines (with link aggregation). Only IP
connectivity between data centers is available (so there is no
possibility to create circuit based on MPLS or something like that). The
basic problem is that high reliability is required, so the solution have
to be fully redundant.

The initial idea was about two OpenVPN servers in each data center + two
switches (HP E5800) joined into one logical switch via VRF. The link
failure is based on LACP packets between both data centers.  The
solution works, however performance of OpenVPN is really creepy. The
maximum we were able to get from this configuration was about 100Mbps.
We expect at least 500Mbps (or more in the future).

In our thoughts then we were thinking about l2tp on some cisco/HP(H3C)
device, however there is little information about performance of that
solution and I am not sure how the failure detection would work in
redundant configuration.

Have anybody some experience with similar solution or at least any idea ?


Thanks a lot for thoughts

Tomas




Re: L2 redundant VPN

2013-01-21 Thread Dan Olson
Can you enable aes-ni on your openvpn servers?  Any newer intel xeon 
chipset should support it, but it is usually disabled (bios) by default.

There are more tuning tips at 
http://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/Gigabit_Networks_Linux 


- Original Message -
 From: Tomas Podermanski tpo...@cis.vutbr.cz
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:37:55 PM
 Subject: L2 redundant VPN
 
 Hi networking guys,
 
 I need some help :-). We try to find for our department reliable
 solution for L2 VPN. The task is to connect two remote data centers,
 each of them connected two 1Gbps  lines (with link aggregation). Only
 IP
 connectivity between data centers is available (so there is no
 possibility to create circuit based on MPLS or something like that).
 The
 basic problem is that high reliability is required, so the solution
 have
 to be fully redundant.
 
 The initial idea was about two OpenVPN servers in each data center +
 two
 switches (HP E5800) joined into one logical switch via VRF. The link
 failure is based on LACP packets between both data centers.  The
 solution works, however performance of OpenVPN is really creepy. The
 maximum we were able to get from this configuration was about
 100Mbps.
 We expect at least 500Mbps (or more in the future).
 
 In our thoughts then we were thinking about l2tp on some
 cisco/HP(H3C)
 device, however there is little information about performance of that
 solution and I am not sure how the failure detection would work in
 redundant configuration.
 
 Have anybody some experience with similar solution or at least any
 idea ?
 
 
 Thanks a lot for thoughts
 
 Tomas
 
 
 



Re: L2 redundant VPN

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
Alternatively, just disable encryption by using --cipher none if you 
only care about the L2 bridging and don't care about the encryption 
aspect.  You should get a huge performance boost through the tunnel and 
it would be the same thing as dropping a dedicated circuit in there.


Of course, encryption is generally a Good Thing(tm), and the AES-NI 
stuff is phenomenal, but it's not necessarily required in places where 
you're just trying to get a link set up between 2 sites and you were 
considering MPLS anyways.


- Pete


On 01/21/2013 05:37 PM, Dan Olson wrote:

Can you enable aes-ni on your openvpn servers?  Any newer intel xeon
chipset should support it, but it is usually disabled (bios) by default.

There are more tuning tips at 
http://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/Gigabit_Networks_Linux


- Original Message -

From: Tomas Podermanski tpo...@cis.vutbr.cz
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:37:55 PM
Subject: L2 redundant VPN

Hi networking guys,

 I need some help :-). We try to find for our department reliable
solution for L2 VPN. The task is to connect two remote data centers,
each of them connected two 1Gbps  lines (with link aggregation). Only
IP
connectivity between data centers is available (so there is no
possibility to create circuit based on MPLS or something like that).
The
basic problem is that high reliability is required, so the solution
have
to be fully redundant.

The initial idea was about two OpenVPN servers in each data center +
two
switches (HP E5800) joined into one logical switch via VRF. The link
failure is based on LACP packets between both data centers.  The
solution works, however performance of OpenVPN is really creepy. The
maximum we were able to get from this configuration was about
100Mbps.
We expect at least 500Mbps (or more in the future).

In our thoughts then we were thinking about l2tp on some
cisco/HP(H3C)
device, however there is little information about performance of that
solution and I am not sure how the failure detection would work in
redundant configuration.

Have anybody some experience with similar solution or at least any
idea ?


Thanks a lot for thoughts

 Tomas