On 15/Nov/19 11:33, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> Correct. The optimum location for peering is at the center of population
> density and the center of economic transaction density, since that minimizes
> average cable lengths to users. I’ve never observed a cable landing site in
> the downtown co
On 15/Nov/19 11:47, Martijn Schmidt via NANOG wrote:
> I think AMS-IX had an exchange in Mombasa in the SEACOM landing
> station at some point, but that is gone now. I'm not sure about the
> exact reasons there but someone here probably knows what happened.
Someone here definitely knows what h
On 17/Nov/19 01:02, william manning wrote:
> usually the logistics and business models of traditional CLS and DC
> are different (Bill Woodcock laid it out).
Massively different.
For example, it's not uncommon for CLS's to be built (or expanded)
purely from load containers.
Mark.
On 17/Nov/19 19:39, Rod Beck wrote:
> A landing station is not typically carrier neutral and is not designed
> to have a huge of excess space to accommodate third parties. When I
> was at Hibernia Atlantic we would get from time to time a disaster
> recovery client, but there was not a lot of exc
On 15/Nov/19 04:58, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
> Hey there
>
> I have been putting my thoughts on Infrapedia blog and sharing with
> folks like
>
> https://www.infrapedia.com/post/top20cities-datacenters
>
> I am working on a new article and this time my topic will be looking
> at cable landing stati
accordingly. It
will be a very poor choice for most potential clients.
Regards,
Roderick.
From: NANOG on behalf of william manning
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:02 AM
To: Mehmet Akcin
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Landing Stations used as datacenter
usually
usually the logistics and business models of traditional CLS and DC are
different (Bill Woodcock laid it out).
a few years ago i built a model for SWIFT that provided for dynamic
remapping of lambda in the event of backhoe fade. Not exactly your DC,
neutral IX form factor, but met the need at the
Owen of course. I was just expressing my humble opinion to the thread.
Cheers.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:41 PM Owen DeLong wrote:
> I was neither defending, nor advocating the placement, merely attempting
> to document some of the history.
>
> Owen
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2019, at 15:20 , Javier J wro
I was neither defending, nor advocating the placement, merely attempting to
document some of the history.
Owen
> On Nov 15, 2019, at 15:20 , Javier J wrote:
>
> I would think that just a few extra fractions of a second from the cable
> station to a DC/IX are better than a DC/IX near the beac
My mistake, I was also wrong about the landing site location being there, I
located the site using city permitting information It's 6KM away at a local
beach(woodbine).
Regards,
Andrew Paolucci
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On Friday, November 15, 2019 6:42 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote:
> Cr
Crosslake does not use the Enwave cooling pipes to enter 151 Front.
Torix is at 151 Front, but 151 Front is not Torix.
At 06:35 PM 15/11/2019, Andrew Paolucci via NANOG wrote:
Fresh water might not be in your scope for the
article, but I believe crosslakefibre.ca
operates a link across Lake O
Fresh water might not be in your scope for the article, but I believe
crosslakefibre.ca operates a link across Lake Ontario, Buffalo to Toronto at
TORIX 151 Front Street, but you'd need to verify with them if indeed the
landing comes directly into the facility, this may be the case though as lak
I would think that just a few extra fractions of a second from the cable
station to a DC/IX are better than a DC/IX near the beach where water can
wipe it all out. Preferably DC/IX should be on the 2nd or third floor IMHO
on some islands.
- J
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 4:11 PM Owen DeLong wrote:
>
Some Caribbean islands had IXs in landing stations early on IIRC. Usually
before the island built it’s first datacenter.
Some of them were better/faster about moving to the datacenter once it was
established than others.
Owen
> On Nov 15, 2019, at 01:47 , Martijn Schmidt via NANOG wrote:
>
On 15.11.2019 03:58, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
> Hey there
>
> I have been putting my thoughts on Infrapedia blog and sharing with
> folks like
>
> https://www.infrapedia.com/post/top20cities-datacenters
>
> I am working on a new article and this time my topic will be looking at
> cable landing stati
PPC-1 built by PIPE Networks, an Australian IX, fiber and carrier neutral colo
provider, uses a CLS in Cromer NSW (“Sydney”) that is also a PIPE data center.
Unfortunately PIPE got acquired by TPG and their IX platform is limping along
on life support these days.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 14,
I think AMS-IX had an exchange in Mombasa in the SEACOM landing station at some
point, but that is gone now. I'm not sure about the exact reasons there but
someone here probably knows what happened.
There's also a big amount of carriers in the TATA landing station in Mumbai, it
is the second-la
> On Nov 15, 2019, at 5:42 AM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
> I can’t find a single cls that is a good peering spot
Correct. The optimum location for peering is at the center of population
density and the center of economic transaction density, since that minimizes
average cable lengths to users. I
I can’t find a single cls that is a good peering spot
Latam has level3 cls in chile which is good location and has lots of
networks ixp. That is like only one I am aware, doing business is quite
horrible there.
Everything is over priced, slow burocraric.
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 19:18 Sean Donela
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
I am not a big fan of CLS deployments. They have limited networks ( like
only carriers and no eyeballs) and very expensive connectivity (usually)
Sometimes there isn't a choice, i.e. islands or other constrained
geographies. But I am not a fan of comb
Hey there
I have been putting my thoughts on Infrapedia blog and sharing with folks
like
https://www.infrapedia.com/post/top20cities-datacenters
I am working on a new article and this time my topic will be looking at
cable landing stations(cls). Do you consider cable landing stations as a
datace
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