Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-15 Thread Yunhong Gu via NANOG
Thanks for the tests that show the NODATA is from the authoritative
nameserver. To clarify, Google DNS does not filter either  or any of
these domains.

Yunhong

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Yang Yu yang.yu.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Nicholas Warren
 nwar...@barryelectric.com wrote:
  Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns,
 or is Microsoft not available over v6?
 
  Thanks,
  Nich
 

 probably not Google DNS filtering


 test point 1

 $ dig e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net

 ;  DiG 9.10.2-P2  e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  @
 n0dspb.akamaiedge.net
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 51914
 ;; flags: qr aa rd ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
 ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.IN  

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 dspb.akamaiedge.net.1000IN  SOA n0dspb.akamaiedge.net.
 hostmaster.akamai.com. 1436917052 1000 1000 1000 1800

 ;; Query time: 51 msec
 ;; SERVER: 96.7.248.137#53(96.7.248.137)
 ;; WHEN: Wed Jul 15 08:37:32 KST 2015
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 119



 test point 2

 $ dig e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net

 ;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  @
 n0dspb.akamaiedge.net
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27887
 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.IN  

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20  IN  2600:1408:10:18f::2768
 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20  IN  2600:1408:10:181::2768
 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20  IN  2600:1408:10:188::2768

 ;; Query time: 18 msec
 ;; SERVER: 88.221.81.193#53(88.221.81.193)
 ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 14 16:37:17 2015
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 128


 I get different IPs for n0dspb.akamaiedge.net / n0dscb.akamaiedge.net
 every time.

 So it depends on source IP of the query and which akamai DNS server is
 answering?



Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread John Levine
In article c26aba0f2e16624ea737db4674dc05ab167b2...@mail.baec.local you write:
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is 
Microsoft not available over v6?

Looks like it's your DNS.

;  DiG 9.10.2-P2  www.microsoft.com 
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16645
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.microsoft.com. IN  

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.microsoft.com.  3559IN  CNAME   toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
toggle.www.ms.akadns.net. 260   IN  CNAME   www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net. 21560 IN CNAME 
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net. 3560 IN CNAME 
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 9   IN  2600:1408:10:18f::2768



Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

however...this revelation is shocking...my users can access www.microsoft.com
material via IPv6?? turn this filth off!!  ;-)

alan


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
There is

C:\Users\jluthmandig -t  www.microsoft.com +short
toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.
2600:1407:10:390::2768
2600:1407:10:389::2768


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Nicholas Warren nwar...@barryelectric.com
wrote:

 Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or
 is Microsoft not available over v6?

 Thanks,
 Nich




Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Mel Beckman
Microsoft is highly IPv6 connected. 

nslookup
set type=
www.microsoft.com.
Server: 206.83.0.42
Address:206.83.0.42#53

Non-authoritative answer:
www.microsoft.com   canonical name = toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
toggle.www.ms.akadns.netcanonical name = 
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net canonical name = 
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net  canonical name = 
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  has  address 2600:1406:34:280::2768
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  has  address 2600:1406:34:288::2768

What did you lookup?

 -mel beckman

 On Jul 14, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Nicholas Warren nwar...@barryelectric.com 
 wrote:
 
 Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is 
 Microsoft not available over v6?
 
 Thanks,
 Nich
 


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Mark Keymer

Umm, ok so your saying you get  records for microsoft.com

I am Not talking about www.microsoft.com I agree that it has  
records. But the request was for microsoft.com


And as noted other domains without the WWW might not have  Records.

Sincerely,

Mark Keymer
CFO/COO
Vivio Technologies

On 7/14/2015 2:22 PM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:

Hi,


No.  My DNS (using the roots) gets it right.  ;-)

so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its 
your DNS
and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6  ;-)same true for OpenDNS? 
likely...

alan




Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Daniel C. Eckert
Which property are you trying to access?  Bing?  Azure?  O365?  Something
else?
On Jul 14, 2015 12:34 PM, Nicholas Warren nwar...@barryelectric.com
wrote:

 Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or
 is Microsoft not available over v6?

 Thanks,
 Nich




Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:

 On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:22 PM,  a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi,

 No.  My DNS (using the roots) gets it right.  ;-)

 so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its 
 your DNS
 and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6  ;-)same true for OpenDNS? 
 likely...

 Dude, it was a test I ran for Nicholas... not my dns.   It doesn't
 mean something is internal or related to a person just because they
 post some data here.

 Do I need to spoon feed you the test data that I posted earlier?

 Perhaps the smiley? :)

Yes.  ;-)

:)

-Jim P.


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 There is

And there isn't

~$ dig -t  www.microsoft.com +short
toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.

~$ host e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has address 23.220.92.16


-Jim P.


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Antonio Querubin

On Tue, 14 Jul 2015, Jared Mauch wrote:


www.microsoft.com seems to pass these checks for me:

http://ipv6-test.com/validate.php

Perhaps they have some other site that doesn't have it enabled?


http://www.mrp.net/cgi-bin/ipv6-status.cgi

SMTP fails for both microsoft.com and xbox.com

live.com has only DNS.

bing.com is a total fail.


Antonio Querubin
e-mail:  t...@lavanauts.org
xmpp:  antonioqueru...@gmail.com


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

 And there isn't


its your DNS  ;-)


host e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has address 104.70.251.201
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has IPv6 address 2a02:26f0:cb:2a4::2768
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has IPv6 address 2a02:26f0:cb:29a::2768



alan


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

 No.  My DNS (using the roots) gets it right.  ;-)

so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its 
your DNS
and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6  ;-)same true for OpenDNS? 
likely...

alan


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 There is

 And there isn't

 ~$ dig -t  www.microsoft.com +short
 toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
 www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.
 www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.

 ~$ host e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net
 e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net has address 23.220.92.16


BTW, the issue is Google Public DNS:

~$ dig -t  www.microsoft.com +short @2001:4860:4860::
toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.
2600:1408:17:28e::2768
2600:1408:17:280::2768

~$ dig -t  www.microsoft.com +short @8.8.8.8
toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.
www.microsoft.com-c.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net.
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.

-Jim P.


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 4:30 PM,  a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi,

 And there isn't


 its your DNS  ;-)

No.  My DNS (using the roots) gets it right.  ;-)

The failure is somewhere between Google Public DNS's IPv4 servers and Akamai.

See my earlier post.

-Jim P.


Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:22 PM,  a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi,
 
 No.  My DNS (using the roots) gets it right.  ;-)
 
 so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its 
 your DNS
 and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6  ;-)same true for OpenDNS? 
 likely...
 
 Dude, it was a test I ran for Nicholas... not my dns.   It doesn't
 mean something is internal or related to a person just because they
 post some data here.
 
 Do I need to spoon feed you the test data that I posted earlier?

Perhaps the smiley? :)

I think the general statement is that if someone uses Google DNS they may not 
be getting the full IPv6 experience which may be surprising to some people.

I’m not sure why google would filter the  responses, or if it’s something 
else happening but it does make me wonder what other queries that google would 
get wrong.

- Jared

Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:22 PM,  a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi,

 No.  My DNS (using the roots) gets it right.  ;-)

 so if you choose google DNS you dont see the right stuff..in which case its 
 your DNS
 and not microsoft or Akamai not doing IPv6  ;-)same true for OpenDNS? 
 likely...

Dude, it was a test I ran for Nicholas... not my dns.   It doesn't
mean something is internal or related to a person just because they
post some data here.

Do I need to spoon feed you the test data that I posted earlier?

-Jim P.


M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Nicholas Warren
Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is 
Microsoft not available over v6?

Thanks,
Nich



Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Mark Keymer
I agree that www.microsoft.com passes. But it looks like microsoft.com 
does not.


sincerely,

Mark Keymer
CFO/COO
Vivio Technologies

On 7/14/2015 12:39 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:

www.microsoft.com seems to pass these checks for me:

http://ipv6-test.com/validate.php

Perhaps they have some other site that doesn't have it enabled?

- Jared

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 07:33:19PM +, Nicholas Warren wrote:

Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is 
Microsoft not available over v6?

Thanks,
Nich




Re: M$ no v6 or just me?

2015-07-14 Thread Yang Yu
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Nicholas Warren
nwar...@barryelectric.com wrote:
 Surely Microsoft has IPv6 connectivity? Is there a problem with my dns, or is 
 Microsoft not available over v6?

 Thanks,
 Nich


probably not Google DNS filtering


test point 1

$ dig e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net

;  DiG 9.10.2-P2  e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 51914
;; flags: qr aa rd ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.IN  

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
dspb.akamaiedge.net.1000IN  SOA n0dspb.akamaiedge.net.
hostmaster.akamai.com. 1436917052 1000 1000 1000 1800

;; Query time: 51 msec
;; SERVER: 96.7.248.137#53(96.7.248.137)
;; WHEN: Wed Jul 15 08:37:32 KST 2015
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 119



test point 2

$ dig e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net

;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net  @n0dspb.akamaiedge.net
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27887
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net.IN  

;; ANSWER SECTION:
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20  IN  2600:1408:10:18f::2768
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20  IN  2600:1408:10:181::2768
e10088.dspb.akamaiedge.net. 20  IN  2600:1408:10:188::2768

;; Query time: 18 msec
;; SERVER: 88.221.81.193#53(88.221.81.193)
;; WHEN: Tue Jul 14 16:37:17 2015
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 128


I get different IPs for n0dspb.akamaiedge.net / n0dscb.akamaiedge.net
every time.

So it depends on source IP of the query and which akamai DNS server is
answering?