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> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 9:37 PM
> To: Michael Loftis
> Cc: Nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Moving fibre trunks: interruptions?
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>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Michael Loftis <mlof...@wgops.com> wrote:
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>> If it is in the railr
Pretty much. Here is an example of permitting requirements for underground.
Underground costs 5-12/foot (or more in urban areas) whereas aerial can be as
low as $2/foot.
Jared Mauch
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Ricky Beam wrote:
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>> On Fri, 01 Sep 2017 15:52:40 -0400,
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From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Michael Hallgren
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Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 9:47 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Moving fibre trunks: interruptions?
Le 02/09/2017 à 21:25, Baldur Norddahl a écrit :
> That depends
Den 2. sep. 2017 21.49 skrev "Michael Hallgren" :
Le 02/09/2017 à 21:25, Baldur Norddahl a écrit :
> That depends on the country. Here in Denmark it is not possible to get
> rights to put up any aerial at all. The cost difference is irrelevant when
> you have no option but to put
The the USA, we have tornadoes, hurricanes, nasty wind and lightning, ice
accumulation on lines, and idiot squirrels that like to eat fiber. Buried
fiber over time will end up being cheaper than aerial once you factor in
maintenance and repair. Add to that the additional cost of pole studies,
Le 02/09/2017 à 21:25, Baldur Norddahl a écrit :
> That depends on the country. Here in Denmark it is not possible to get
> rights to put up any aerial at all. The cost difference is irrelevant when
> you have no option but to put it in the ground.
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> Not only is there no new aerial installations
That depends on the country. Here in Denmark it is not possible to get
rights to put up any aerial at all. The cost difference is irrelevant when
you have no option but to put it in the ground.
Not only is there no new aerial installations here but the old ones are
taken down. Very little is left
lantic?
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> From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Jared Mauch
> <ja...@puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 9:37 PM
> To: Michael Loftis
> Cc: Nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Moving fibre trunks: interruptions?
On 2017-09-01 18:38, Ricky Beam wrote:
> Buried stuff requires a great deal of planning, permitting, and insurance.
Are cables in railway right of way considered "burried stuff" from the
point of view of all the regulatory approvals since it is on private
land (railway's) ?
I take it that it
On Fri, 01 Sep 2017 15:52:40 -0400, Rod Beck
wrote:
I don't think there is virtually any aerial in Europe. So given the cost
difference why is virtually all fiber buried on this side of the
Atlantic?
Aerial is simple and fast... pull the cable through a
On 2017-09-01 16:12, Alain Hebert wrote:
> Being somehow familiar with how things operate when it involve
> Quebec Govt and the Fed Govt... Expect hell. Pray for purgatory.
> Rejoice if it takes less than 3 months.
In this particular case, the government is giving CN new land, and once
Yeah,
Being somehow familiar with how things operate when it involve
Quebec Govt and the Fed Govt... Expect hell. Pray for purgatory.
Rejoice if it takes less than 3 months.
PS: At least we have very good, and dedicated, cabling crews.
=D.
But yeah, there is work
September 1, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Michael Loftis
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Moving fibre trunks: interruptions?
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Michael Loftis <mlof...@wgops.com> wrote:
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> If it is in the railroad RoW they may be restricted to daylight working
> only. Check
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Michael Loftis wrote:
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> If it is in the railroad RoW they may be restricted to daylight working
> only. Check with your provider or OSP crew.
>
Yup. Railroad work is complex just because you have to coordinate with the
railroad owner and
If it is in the railroad RoW they may be restricted to daylight working
only. Check with your provider or OSP crew.
--
"Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors
into trouble of all kinds."
-- Samuel Butler
I'd expect at least a couple of hours of outage while the cable is reconnected.
When doing the move on the live cable (assuming 1 cable). There will
be a splicing crew at each end of the move. They will then break a
tube or ribbon at a time and splice into the new cable.
Splicing unused portions
A large highway interchange is being rebuilt in Montréal (Turcot) and
this requires that the CN mainline tracks out of downtown be moved a few
hundred metres to the north for a couple of kilometres until it rejoins
the existing alignment.
Part of the contract involves the cost of moving the
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