Re: NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Beecher
To kinda cross this off the list, the videos of all the individual talks
are up on the Team NANOG Youtube channel.



On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 10:12 PM Steve Feldman 
wrote:

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> On Feb 15, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Joly MacFie  wrote:
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> My guess is that this is some kind of legal red tape, speakers signed off
> for livestream but not VOD. If just one speaker objects, it can take the
> whole thing down.
>
>
> Yes.
>
> As Tom mentioned in an earlier message, there was apparently some
> confusion about which rights were granted for at least one talk.  So to be
> safe the recorded stream was pulled for the time being, until the
> speaker(s) can confirm their intent.  And with post-conference travel and a
> holiday weekend in the U.S., it's unlikely to be resolved until next week.
>
> Steve
>
>


Re: NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-15 Thread Steve Feldman

On Feb 15, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Joly MacFie  wrote:
> My guess is that this is some kind of legal red tape, speakers signed off for 
> livestream but not VOD. If just one speaker objects, it can take the whole 
> thing down.

Yes.

As Tom mentioned in an earlier message, there was apparently some confusion 
about which rights were granted for at least one talk.  So to be safe the 
recorded stream was pulled for the time being, until the speaker(s) can confirm 
their intent.  And with post-conference travel and a holiday weekend in the 
U.S., it's unlikely to be resolved until next week.

Steve



Re: NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-15 Thread Joly MacFie
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 6:03 PM Grant Taylor via NANOG 
wrote:

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> Live streams through YouTube are quite different than videos uploaded to
> YouTube.
>
> YouTube doesn't store the live stream for later playback.  A separate
> copy of the video must be uploaded.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
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This is absolutely false, in fact the reverse is true! Public VOD on a
public livestream is the default. It has to be switched off, either by
deleting the streams, or making them 'private'.

What is also true is that, as long as a stream is under 8 hrs, YT has an
"editor" which permits trimming and "save as new".

My guess is that this is some kind of legal red tape, speakers signed off
for livestream but not VOD. If just one speaker objects, it can take the
whole thing down.

I will mention, that in the case of Hosein Badran's presentation, I asked
for, and received, permission to simulcast. It is available at
https://isoc.live/11782/

joly







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Re: NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-15 Thread Yang Yu
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 3:04 PM Grant Taylor via NANOG  wrote:
> Live streams through YouTube are quite different than videos uploaded to
> YouTube.
>
> YouTube doesn't store the live stream for later playback.  A separate
> copy of the video must be uploaded.

youtube live stream can be played back at a later time
e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI-jIY_lFnM

If a session shouldn't not be recorded, why not just pause the
stream/play a break video instead of making the entire day's recording
unavailable?


Re: NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-15 Thread Tom Beecher
  /Program Committee Hat On

One of the speakers from 78 had requested their talk not be recorded, and
to honor that request the livestream recordings were made private.

Some additional discussions were had on Friday, and those might be able to
be restored next week, assuming YouTube still has them.

  /Program Committee Hat Off

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 2:42 PM Ana Tomasović 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is anyone able to access NANOG 78 playlist on YouTube or the webcast
> URL?
>
> YouTube videos/playlist appear as private.
>
> Thank you.
>


Re: NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-15 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG

On 2/15/20 2:03 PM, Yang Yu wrote:
I asked NANOG several times to keep YouTube stream videos up until 
edited videos are published (usually a week later), never got a 
response on why they are not doing it.


Live streams through YouTube are quite different than videos uploaded to 
YouTube.


YouTube doesn't store the live stream for later playback.  A separate 
copy of the video must be uploaded.




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Re: NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-15 Thread Yang Yu
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 12:32 PM Chriztoffer Hansen
 wrote:
> Wish they would keep the Day 1, Day 2, Day 3 videos online until the
> edited talks have been published.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO8DR5ZGla8jSzWlrWt_cz13LLAz44rHY

I asked NANOG several times to keep YouTube stream videos up until
edited videos are published (usually a week later), never got a
response on why they are not doing it.


Re: NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-15 Thread Chriztoffer Hansen
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 20:40, Ana Tomasović  wrote:
> Is anyone able to access NANOG 78 playlist on YouTube or the webcast
> URL?
>
> YouTube videos/playlist appear as private.

Nope. -_-

Wish they would keep the Day 1, Day 2, Day 3 videos online until the
edited talks have been published.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO8DR5ZGla8jSzWlrWt_cz13LLAz44rHY

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NANOG 78 Webcasts

2020-02-15 Thread Ana Tomasović

Hi all,

Is anyone able to access NANOG 78 playlist on YouTube or the webcast 
URL?


YouTube videos/playlist appear as private.

Thank you.