Fwd: Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Lost Email Forwarder [Do Not Reply][DART-4276] via NANOG]

Before getting rid of the cellular based OOB, look into some more detail
about exactly what LTE modems are in those. I've seen some remarkable
results from equipment using the 600/700 bands (tmobile, verizon) for
getting signal into deeply buried concrete structures. There's a lot of
different types and capabilities of cellular data modems on the market.




On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 3:15 PM Matthew Crocker 
wrote:

>
>
> I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some
> low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have
> Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well.
> I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a
> wireless/ethernet bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and
> ethernet for when everything breaks.
>
>
>
> I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer
>
>
>
> I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Re: [External] Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Hunter Fuller via NANOG]

 On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:03 PM Saku Ytti  wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:53, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE <
> l...@6by7.net> wrote:
>
> Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades?
>>
>
> I would advise against this, OPEX nightmare. Who will NOC call when it is
> down? What will they say to the other end to identify the circuit? When
> will it get fixed? If not, how to escalate?
> Free OOB is too expensive for me.
>
>
I think these are definitely concerns to keep in mind.

But, keeping them in mind, if anyone is at DR ATL1 (56 Marietta) and wants
to do this sort of OOB trade, hit me up off-list, please. lol

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Router Jockey
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
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Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Saku Ytti]

On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:53, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE <
l...@6by7.net> wrote:

Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades?
>

I would advise against this, OPEX nightmare. Who will NOC call when it is
down? What will they say to the other end to identify the circuit? When
will it get fixed? If not, how to escalate?
Free OOB is too expensive for me.

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  ++ytti

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Mike Hammett]

*nods* band support, where the directional antenna is pointing, etc. 




cellmapper.com has a good map of tower locations, sector coverage, etc. If you 
have an Android device, you can contribute to the crowd-sourcing. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Eric Kuhnke"  
To: "Matthew Crocker"  
Cc: "NANOG"  
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 8:08:55 PM 
Subject: Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer 



Before getting rid of the cellular based OOB, look into some more detail about 
exactly what LTE modems are in those. I've seen some remarkable results from 
equipment using the 600/700 bands (tmobile, verizon) for getting signal into 
deeply buried concrete structures. There's a lot of different types and 
capabilities of cellular data modems on the market. 








On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 3:15 PM Matthew Crocker < matt...@corp.crocker.com > 
wrote: 






I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some low 
cost bandwidth options for out of band management. Currently I have Opengear 
boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well. I either need 
to replace them with new cell based devices or find a wireless/ethernet 
bandwidth option. I only need a couple serial ports and ethernet for when 
everything breaks. 

I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer 

I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers. 

Thanks 

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Robert Blayzor via NANOG]

On 4/15/21 6:14 PM, Matthew Crocker wrote:

I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer




I'm in both locations as well. We have a 10MB static IP connection for 
them and I think it's like $50/mo. Depends on how "out of band" you want 
it to be.


I also think Markley @ 1 summer offers something similar.

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Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE]

We don’t advertise it, but we’ll do the same where we can, which is most POPs.  
 The 2mbit waived commit is smart, clean. I like it!

Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades?  

—L.B.

Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
CEO 
l...@6by7.net 
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the 
world.”
FCC License KJ6FJJ



> On Apr 16, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore  wrote:
> 
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Warren Kumari  > wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 1:08 PM Bryan Fields  wrote:
>>> On 4/16/21 1:33 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
>>> https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band
>> 
>> Wow, this is an impressive offering.  I wish more providers would do this.
>> 
>> +manylots. It's always surprising to me how often companies (in all 
>> industries) can be broken up into those that understand the value of 
>> goodwill and those that instead nickel-and-dime.
>> My local Potbelly (sandwich ship) every now and then will just say "No 
>> charge, this one's on us". This only happens around once every 30-40 times I 
>> go in, but they loyalty that it has created means that I go there **way** 
>> more often than I otherwise would. It also means that in the few times that 
>> something goes wrong/I have a bad experience, I don't really care.
>> 
>> The additional profit that they've made from having me as a loyal customer 
>> more than covers the cost of 1 free sammich every N. 
>> 
>> In many ways Markley seems similar - they feel like they understand that 
>> some things (like OOB) are annoying to deal with, and that the loyalty / 
>> goodwill provided by being "nice" more than repays the cost of the service.
> 
> As the person who created that product for Markley, I can tell you that is 
> precisely what we were thinking.
> 
> It cost us nearly nothing, made customers stickier, generated good will, and 
> created a chance to talk to them about cloud offerings or similar. The only 
> “catch” is you need a fiber xconn. The thinking was it was barely more than a 
> copper xconn for POTS yet you get gigabit instead of dialup, or you would 
> have used fiber to another ISP anyway.
> 
> Every serious colo has enough bandwidth that 2 Mbps won’t be noticed, 
> competent network engineers (one hopes), and free switch ports (or can get 
> them cheap). Why don’t they do this? Perhaps someone in finance feels it can 
> be “monetized”. I feel the monetization lowers adoption and kills the other 
> benefits Warren mentions above - which are worth a hell of a lot more than 
> the paltry sum they would get from billing a few customers.
> 
> -- 
> TTFN,
> patrick
> 
> PS: The guest SSID at Markley has no captive portal. It was a problem for 
> customers who wanted to have their equipment get on the wifi to download 
> images, etc, so we took it off.

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Patrick W. Gilmore]

On Apr 16, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 1:08 PM Bryan Fields  wrote:
>> On 4/16/21 1:33 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
> > https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band
> 
> Wow, this is an impressive offering.  I wish more providers would do this.
> 
> +manylots. It's always surprising to me how often companies (in all 
> industries) can be broken up into those that understand the value of goodwill 
> and those that instead nickel-and-dime.
> My local Potbelly (sandwich ship) every now and then will just say "No 
> charge, this one's on us". This only happens around once every 30-40 times I 
> go in, but they loyalty that it has created means that I go there **way** 
> more often than I otherwise would. It also means that in the few times that 
> something goes wrong/I have a bad experience, I don't really care.
> 
> The additional profit that they've made from having me as a loyal customer 
> more than covers the cost of 1 free sammich every N. 
> 
> In many ways Markley seems similar - they feel like they understand that some 
> things (like OOB) are annoying to deal with, and that the loyalty / goodwill 
> provided by being "nice" more than repays the cost of the service.

As the person who created that product for Markley, I can tell you that is 
precisely what we were thinking.

It cost us nearly nothing, made customers stickier, generated good will, and 
created a chance to talk to them about cloud offerings or similar. The only 
“catch” is you need a fiber xconn. The thinking was it was barely more than a 
copper xconn for POTS yet you get gigabit instead of dialup, or you would have 
used fiber to another ISP anyway.

Every serious colo has enough bandwidth that 2 Mbps won’t be noticed, competent 
network engineers (one hopes), and free switch ports (or can get them cheap). 
Why don’t they do this? Perhaps someone in finance feels it can be “monetized”. 
I feel the monetization lowers adoption and kills the other benefits Warren 
mentions above - which are worth a hell of a lot more than the paltry sum they 
would get from billing a few customers.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

PS: The guest SSID at Markley has no captive portal. It was a problem for 
customers who wanted to have their equipment get on the wifi to download 
images, etc, so we took it off.

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Warren Kumari]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 1:08 PM Bryan Fields  wrote:

> On 4/16/21 1:33 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
> > https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band
>
> Wow, this is an impressive offering.  I wish more providers would do this.
>

+manylots. It's always surprising to me how often companies (in all
industries) can be broken up into those that understand the value of
goodwill and those that instead nickel-and-dime.
My local Potbelly (sandwich ship) every now and then will just say "No
charge, this one's on us". This only happens around once every 30-40 times
I go in, but they loyalty that it has created means that I go there **way**
more often than I otherwise would. It also means that in the few times that
something goes wrong/I have a bad experience, I don't really care.

The additional profit that they've made from having me as a loyal customer
more than covers the cost of 1 free sammich every N.

In many ways Markley seems similar - they feel like they understand that
some things (like OOB) are annoying to deal with, and that the loyalty /
goodwill provided by being "nice" more than repays the cost of the service.
W




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>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
>


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complexities of his own making.
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Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Bryan Fields]

On 4/16/21 1:33 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
> https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band

Wow, this is an impressive offering.  I wish more providers would do this.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net

Re: [EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Warren Kumari]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:20 PM Mike McGurty  wrote:

> I believe we were recently quoted a price of like $900/month (between
> cross-connect and monthly charge) for 10Mb OpenGear OOB access in a large
> Canadian Data Center.  We passed.  While I don’t disagree, you have to pay
> for these services.  The cost far exceeds the value for what is provided in
> many cases.
>

I have often been pleasantly surprised by how often I can open a laptop in
a colo, see a list of SSIDs, figure out from the name who runs it, and ask
nicely if I can please attach an AP(/station) and OOB widget to their
network. I've basically always got the response of "Sure, as long as you
are only using it for OOB and don't try route traffic over it, no
worries". Often the reply also includes a "... and, could we do the
same? You stand up an AP and we'll tunnel OOB through it".

Yes, many colo's frown upon/"ban" Wifi, but what they don't notice doesn't
hurt them... The Internet used to be built on people helping each other out
- let's see if we can recreate that

W



>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> *From: *NANOG  on behalf of "
> jstal...@ieee.org" 
> *Date: *Friday, April 16, 2021 at 12:03 PM
> *To: *'Matthew Crocker' , 'NANOG' <
> nanog@nanog.org>
> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1
> Summer
>
>
>
>
>
> Ha! “Surprised”? Well, offering OOB for a reasonable price could be a
> differentiator for the savvy colo providers, but bean counters say: “Huh?
> If customer X wants OOB, they can pay ~$300/mo for a cross-connect”.
> ~$300/mo might seem an exaggeration, but not for some of us. Even ~$150/mo
> is ridiculous.
>
>
>
> If 4G-ish mobile service won’t work, expect to pay. ;-(
>
>
>
> -Joel
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of 
> *Matthew
> Crocker
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:15 PM
> *To:* NANOG 
> *Subject:* OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer
>
>
>
>
>
> I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some
> low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have
> Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well.
> I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a
> wireless/ethernet bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and
> ethernet for when everything breaks.
>
>
>
> I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer
>
>
>
> I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Phil Lavin via NANOG]

> On 15 Apr 2021, at 23:29,   wrote:
> 
>  
> Ha! “Surprised”? Well, offering OOB for a reasonable price could be a 
> differentiator for the savvy colo providers, but bean counters say: “Huh? If 
> customer X wants OOB, they can pay ~$300/mo for a cross-connect”. ~$300/mo 
> might seem an exaggeration, but not for some of us. Even ~$150/mo is 
> ridiculous.

$300/month would be a bargain at One Summer

For what it’s worth, I really like Markley. Everybody that works there is 
fantastically helpful and they don’t cut corners on their infrastructure. Only 
gripe is X-Connect pricing

Re: [EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Mike McGurty]

I believe we were recently quoted a price of like $900/month (between 
cross-connect and monthly charge) for 10Mb OpenGear OOB access in a large 
Canadian Data Center.  We passed.  While I don’t disagree, you have to pay for 
these services.  The cost far exceeds the value for what is provided in many 
cases.

Michael

From: NANOG  on behalf of 
"jstal...@ieee.org" 
Date: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 12:03 PM
To: 'Matthew Crocker' , 'NANOG' 
Subject: [EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer


Ha! “Surprised”? Well, offering OOB for a reasonable price could be a 
differentiator for the savvy colo providers, but bean counters say: “Huh? If 
customer X wants OOB, they can pay ~$300/mo for a cross-connect”. ~$300/mo 
might seem an exaggeration, but not for some of us. Even ~$150/mo is ridiculous.

If 4G-ish mobile service won’t work, expect to pay. ;-(

-Joel

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Crocker
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:15 PM
To: NANOG 
Subject: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer


I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some low 
cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have Opengear 
boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well.  I either 
need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a wireless/ethernet 
bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and ethernet for when 
everything breaks.

I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer

I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.

Thanks



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Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Shane Ronan]

Someone has been spending time at Equinix.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:01 PM  wrote:

>
>
> Ha! “Surprised”? Well, offering OOB for a reasonable price could be a
> differentiator for the savvy colo providers, but bean counters say: “Huh?
> If customer X wants OOB, they can pay ~$300/mo for a cross-connect”.
> ~$300/mo might seem an exaggeration, but not for some of us. Even ~$150/mo
> is ridiculous.
>
>
>
> If 4G-ish mobile service won’t work, expect to pay. ;-(
>
>
>
> -Joel
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of 
> *Matthew
> Crocker
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:15 PM
> *To:* NANOG 
> *Subject:* OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer
>
>
>
>
>
> I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some
> low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have
> Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well.
> I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a
> wireless/ethernet bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and
> ethernet for when everything breaks.
>
>
>
> I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer
>
>
>
> I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Phil Lavin via NANOG]

> On 15 Apr 2021, at 23:14, Matthew Crocker  wrote:
>  
> I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer
>  
> I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.

In --dayJob we were a customer of 1 Summer. OOB was provided by Markley in the 
form of a couple of L3 circuits on SMF with some static IPs. I don’t recall the 
exact commercial relationship as I wasn’t in the company at the time it was 
negotiated but it was effectively supplied free of charge with the rack space. 
Cross-connects at 1 Summer are so damn expensive it’s impractical to take a 
feed from anybody else. That said, if you’re in the MMR then you probably have 
a lot more flexibility.

In other DCs we tended to either sub-lease rack space from a colo provider, as 
they could provide a feed from their adjacent network racks for very little 
cost, or we found a friendly network in the same suite to either take a cheap 
feed from or swap bandwidth with.

LTE reception in the majority of DCs is awful so I was never willing to trust 
it to work when needed.

RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[jstalder]

 

Ha! "Surprised"? Well, offering OOB for a reasonable price could be a
differentiator for the savvy colo providers, but bean counters say: "Huh? If
customer X wants OOB, they can pay ~$300/mo for a cross-connect". ~$300/mo
might seem an exaggeration, but not for some of us. Even ~$150/mo is
ridiculous.

 

If 4G-ish mobile service won't work, expect to pay. ;-(

 

-Joel

 

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Matthew
Crocker
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:15 PM
To: NANOG 
Subject: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

 

 

I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I'm looking for some
low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have
Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don't work too well.
I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a
wireless/ethernet bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and
ethernet for when everything breaks.

 

I'm in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer

 

I'm surprised OOB bandwidth isn't a feature for colocation providers.

 

Thanks

 

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Matthew Crocker]

Geez,  I’ve been at 1 Summer for 6+ years, never new they offered this.  I’ll 
have to check it out

Thanks

-Matt


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On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 01:18, Matthew Crocker 
mailto:matt...@corp.crocker.com>> wrote:

I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some low 
cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently

I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.

That would surprise me too.

https://www.digitalrealty.com/connectivity/ip-bandwidth
https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band

--
  ++ytti

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Dovid Bender]

We use Raritan console devices in NJR2 and I couldn't be happier. They
allow you to have to connections. We have a VPN device that is connected to
our wan switches and then we have Verizon LTE as a backup. When we first
went with T-Mobile we had problems with the connectivity (see
https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-January/098723.html). We
then moved over to Verizon where the signal was strong but we had issues
with the MTU issues (see
https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-June/101576.html). I ended
up adding a rule to the raritan to lower the PDU and that allowed
connectivity via the cellular network. I used the cellular modem that
raritan recommended although I probably could have gone with something
cheaper like the MikroTik LtAP.



On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 6:14 PM Matthew Crocker 
wrote:

>
>
> I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some
> low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have
> Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well.
> I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a
> wireless/ethernet bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and
> ethernet for when everything breaks.
>
>
>
> I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer
>
>
>
> I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Mitcheltree, Harold B]

Give the Verizon Machine to Machine plan a try before you give up on the 
cellular.

--Pete

From: NANOG  on behalf of Saku 
Ytti 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 12:33 AM
To: Matthew Crocker 
Cc: NANOG 
Subject: Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer



On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 01:18, Matthew Crocker 
mailto:matt...@corp.crocker.com>> wrote:


I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some low 
cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently



I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.

That would surprise me too.

https://www.digitalrealty.com/connectivity/ip-bandwidth
https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band

--
  ++ytti

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Saku Ytti]

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 01:18, Matthew Crocker 
wrote:

I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some
> low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently
>
>
>
> I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.
>

That would surprise me too.

https://www.digitalrealty.com/connectivity/ip-bandwidth
https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band

-- 
  ++ytti

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Louis D]

What SIM provider and modem are you using in those Opengears?
It’s been over a year but walked around 60 Hudson with LTE . I would
exhaust the modem , provider , antenna placement options

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:12 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Before getting rid of the cellular based OOB, look into some more detail
> about exactly what LTE modems are in those. I've seen some remarkable
> results from equipment using the 600/700 bands (tmobile, verizon) for
> getting signal into deeply buried concrete structures. There's a lot of
> different types and capabilities of cellular data modems on the market.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 3:15 PM Matthew Crocker 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for
>> some low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I
>> have Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too
>> well.  I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a
>> wireless/ethernet bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and
>> ethernet for when everything breaks.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.
>>
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>> Thanks
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Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Eric Kuhnke]

Before getting rid of the cellular based OOB, look into some more detail
about exactly what LTE modems are in those. I've seen some remarkable
results from equipment using the 600/700 bands (tmobile, verizon) for
getting signal into deeply buried concrete structures. There's a lot of
different types and capabilities of cellular data modems on the market.




On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 3:15 PM Matthew Crocker 
wrote:

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> I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some
> low cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have
> Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well.
> I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a
> wireless/ethernet bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and
> ethernet for when everything breaks.
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> I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer
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> I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.
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> Thanks
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OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

[Matthew Crocker]

I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some low 
cost bandwidth options for out of band management.  Currently I have Opengear 
boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well.  I either 
need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a wireless/ethernet 
bandwidth option.   I only need a couple serial ports and ethernet for when 
everything breaks.

I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer

I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.

Thanks