Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
Am 24.02.2015 um 23:59 schrieb Doug Barton: On 2/24/15 1:42 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: ARP Networks: https://www.arpnetworks.com/vps Routed IP space (v4 and v6) as well as BGP peering. +1 for Arp, I'm a happy customer (no other affiliation). We are going to do this at datapath.io using AWS and others soon. We do some BGP peering on your behalf and expose some parameters to the VPS via API. Best regards, Sebastian
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Sebastian Spies s+mailinglisten.na...@sloc.de wrote: Am 24.02.2015 um 23:59 schrieb Doug Barton: On 2/24/15 1:42 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: ARP Networks: https://www.arpnetworks.com/vps Routed IP space (v4 and v6) as well as BGP peering. +1 for Arp, I'm a happy customer (no other affiliation). We are going to do this at datapath.io using AWS and others soon. We do some BGP peering on your behalf and expose some parameters to the VPS via API. Since the requirement included IPv6, I’m not sure how you plan to use AWS. Owen
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
Am 26.02.2015 um 22:14 schrieb Owen DeLong: On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Sebastian Spies s+mailinglisten.na...@sloc.de wrote: Am 24.02.2015 um 23:59 schrieb Doug Barton: On 2/24/15 1:42 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: ARP Networks: https://www.arpnetworks.com/vps Routed IP space (v4 and v6) as well as BGP peering. +1 for Arp, I'm a happy customer (no other affiliation). We are going to do this at datapath.io using AWS and others soon. We do some BGP peering on your behalf and expose some parameters to the VPS via API. Since the requirement included IPv6, I’m not sure how you plan to use AWS. You are right. Sorry for the sloppiness. OT: There is no way to even let two instances communicate with each other in the same VPC subnet using a protocol other than IPv4, although they transport ethernet headers (no VXLAN). Our only solution was to use v6 load balancers that tunnel with our endpoint on the other side of direct connect.
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
Partial thread jack How about VPS providers who will do BGP... Do they exist? /Partial thread jack On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Or NOT. That’s a horribly ugly thing to do in a situation where the desired behavior shouldn’t be that hard to achieve. Owen On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:07 , Baldur Norddahl baldur.nordd...@gmail.com wrote: You just need to enable proxy ARP on the box to simulate a routed subnet. Den 24/02/2015 19.25 skrev Alex Buie alex.b...@frozenfeline.net: Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? (for a small amount of IP addresses, /29 or /28 at most) I am finding a lot of places that will give you extra IPs on the box itself (oftentimes out of the provider's own larger unsubnetted prefix) but I am looking more for a setup with a single IP on the box and a prefix routed to it. TIA for your insight. Alex (if you or your company can do this, direct solicitations are okay too. do keep in mind it's just a personal project and I do not have larger commercial volume at this time) -- Zach Giles zgi...@gmail.com
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
deploy two utm's with bgp on the two internal and external interfaces col Sent from my iPhone On 24 Feb 2015, at 20:29, Zachary Giles zgi...@gmail.com wrote: Partial thread jack How about VPS providers who will do BGP... Do they exist? /Partial thread jack On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Or NOT. That’s a horribly ugly thing to do in a situation where the desired behavior shouldn’t be that hard to achieve. Owen On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:07 , Baldur Norddahl baldur.nordd...@gmail.com wrote: You just need to enable proxy ARP on the box to simulate a routed subnet. Den 24/02/2015 19.25 skrev Alex Buie alex.b...@frozenfeline.net: Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? (for a small amount of IP addresses, /29 or /28 at most) I am finding a lot of places that will give you extra IPs on the box itself (oftentimes out of the provider's own larger unsubnetted prefix) but I am looking more for a setup with a single IP on the box and a prefix routed to it. TIA for your insight. Alex (if you or your company can do this, direct solicitations are okay too. do keep in mind it's just a personal project and I do not have larger commercial volume at this time) -- Zach Giles zgi...@gmail.com
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
Or NOT. That’s a horribly ugly thing to do in a situation where the desired behavior shouldn’t be that hard to achieve. Owen On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:07 , Baldur Norddahl baldur.nordd...@gmail.com wrote: You just need to enable proxy ARP on the box to simulate a routed subnet. Den 24/02/2015 19.25 skrev Alex Buie alex.b...@frozenfeline.net: Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? (for a small amount of IP addresses, /29 or /28 at most) I am finding a lot of places that will give you extra IPs on the box itself (oftentimes out of the provider's own larger unsubnetted prefix) but I am looking more for a setup with a single IP on the box and a prefix routed to it. TIA for your insight. Alex (if you or your company can do this, direct solicitations are okay too. do keep in mind it's just a personal project and I do not have larger commercial volume at this time)
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
Same here, we do as well. But as per the OPs question: we will route additional space but you generally need a good reason for it. Regards, Tim Raphael On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:38 am, Jeff Fisher na...@techmonkeys.org wrote: On 02/24/2015 02:29 PM, Zachary Giles wrote: Partial thread jack How about VPS providers who will do BGP... Do they exist? /Partial thread jack Hit and miss I find. We do it for the odd client and haven't really had any issues.
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
On 02/24/2015 02:29 PM, Zachary Giles wrote: Partial thread jack How about VPS providers who will do BGP... Do they exist? /Partial thread jack Hit and miss I find. We do it for the odd client and haven't really had any issues.
OT: VPS with Routed IP space
Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? (for a small amount of IP addresses, /29 or /28 at most) I am finding a lot of places that will give you extra IPs on the box itself (oftentimes out of the provider's own larger unsubnetted prefix) but I am looking more for a setup with a single IP on the box and a prefix routed to it. TIA for your insight. Alex (if you or your company can do this, direct solicitations are okay too. do keep in mind it's just a personal project and I do not have larger commercial volume at this time)
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
You just need to enable proxy ARP on the box to simulate a routed subnet. Den 24/02/2015 19.25 skrev Alex Buie alex.b...@frozenfeline.net: Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? (for a small amount of IP addresses, /29 or /28 at most) I am finding a lot of places that will give you extra IPs on the box itself (oftentimes out of the provider's own larger unsubnetted prefix) but I am looking more for a setup with a single IP on the box and a prefix routed to it. TIA for your insight. Alex (if you or your company can do this, direct solicitations are okay too. do keep in mind it's just a personal project and I do not have larger commercial volume at this time)
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
never saw that post. right up my alley. Thanks! On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:45 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Alex Buie alex.b...@frozenfeline.net wrote: Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? (for a small amount of IP addresses, /29 or /28 at most) I am finding a lot of places that will give you extra IPs on the box itself (oftentimes out of the provider's own larger unsubnetted prefix) but I am looking more for a setup with a single IP on the box and a prefix routed to it. Hi Alex, You can usually deconfigure the extra IP's on the box and send them down the tunnel. At worst you do a little proxy arp to tell the router that your vps still serves those addresses. You'll find providers are reluctant to assign /28's and /29's to low-dollar VPS services. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Zachary Giles zgi...@gmail.com wrote: How about VPS providers who will do BGP... Do they exist? They do but it's BYOA and $10/mo generally doesn't cut it. Nat Morris has been doing this, here’s a presentation he has on this topic: http://www.slideshare.net/natmorris/anycast-on-a-shoe-string - Jared -- Zach Giles zgi...@gmail.com
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Alex Buie alex.b...@frozenfeline.net wrote: Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? (for a small amount of IP addresses, /29 or /28 at most) I am finding a lot of places that will give you extra IPs on the box itself (oftentimes out of the provider's own larger unsubnetted prefix) but I am looking more for a setup with a single IP on the box and a prefix routed to it. Hi Alex, You can usually deconfigure the extra IP's on the box and send them down the tunnel. At worst you do a little proxy arp to tell the router that your vps still serves those addresses. You'll find providers are reluctant to assign /28's and /29's to low-dollar VPS services. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Zachary Giles zgi...@gmail.com wrote: How about VPS providers who will do BGP... Do they exist? They do but it's BYOA and $10/mo generally doesn't cut it. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems . Web: http://www.dirtside.com/
RE: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
ARP Networks: https://www.arpnetworks.com/vps Routed IP space (v4 and v6) as well as BGP peering. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Zachary Giles Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 12:29 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space Partial thread jack How about VPS providers who will do BGP... Do they exist? /Partial thread jack [...] Den 24/02/2015 19.25 skrev Alex Buie alex.b...@frozenfeline.net: Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? [...]
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:45 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Alex Buie alex.b...@frozenfeline.net wrote: Anybody know of or have recommendations for providers of small VPS-line boxen (or alternative solutions) to serve as GRE endpoints? (for a small amount of IP addresses, /29 or /28 at most) I am finding a lot of places that will give you extra IPs on the box itself (oftentimes out of the provider's own larger unsubnetted prefix) but I am looking more for a setup with a single IP on the box and a prefix routed to it. Hi Alex, You can usually deconfigure the extra IP's on the box and send them down the tunnel. At worst you do a little proxy arp to tell the router that your vps still serves those addresses. You'll find providers are reluctant to assign /28's and /29's to low-dollar VPS services. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Zachary Giles zgi...@gmail.com wrote: How about VPS providers who will do BGP... Do they exist? They do but it's BYOA and $10/mo generally doesn't cut it. Nat Morris has been doing this, here’s a presentation he has on this topic: http://www.slideshare.net/natmorris/anycast-on-a-shoe-string - Jared
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
On 2/24/15 1:42 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: ARP Networks: https://www.arpnetworks.com/vps Routed IP space (v4 and v6) as well as BGP peering. +1 for Arp, I'm a happy customer (no other affiliation). FWIW, Doug
Re: OT: VPS with Routed IP space
Thanks to those who mailed off-list for the BGP thread-jack. Seems like those providers that do BGP would probably route their own space to VPS as well.. (Like OP want. if I understand correctly). Some of them even state that they even SWIP the addresses, which is positive. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 2/24/15 1:42 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote: ARP Networks: https://www.arpnetworks.com/vps Routed IP space (v4 and v6) as well as BGP peering. +1 for Arp, I'm a happy customer (no other affiliation). FWIW, Doug -- Zach Giles zgi...@gmail.com
