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> *From:* NANOG on behalf
> of Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* August 19, 2021 10:32
> *To:* Ben Maddison ; nanog@nanog.org list <
> nanog@nanog.org>
> *Subject:* Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was:
> Setting sensible max-prefix limit
On 19.08.2021, at 22:39, Seth Mattinen wrote:
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>
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> On 8/19/21 11:19 AM, Ross Tajvar wrote:
>> I, and many others that I know, have successfully listed our networks in
>> PeeringDB while having no peering. You may just need to try again.
>
>
> All of the argument is based around an email d
On 8/19/21 11:19 AM, Ross Tajvar wrote:
I, and many others that I know, have successfully listed our networks in
PeeringDB while having no peering. You may just need to try again.
All of the argument is based around an email dated in *2015*. So yeah,
try again.
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From: NANOG on behalf of Eric
Kuhnke
Sent: August 19, 2021 10:32
To: Ben Maddison ; nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting
sensible
On 8/19/21 12:19 PM, Ross Tajvar wrote:
I, and many others that I know, have successfully listed our networks in
PeeringDB while having no peering. You may just need to try again.
Yup, can confirm I had no issues registering too and I've only got a
pretty small setup these days.
Looks like
I, and many others that I know, have successfully listed our networks in
PeeringDB while having no peering. You may just need to try again.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 5:53 PM Sabri Berisha wrote:
> - On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > On Aug 1
I agree with you in the utility of that, but sort of as a side topic...
I wonder how many ASes are out there that have any significant volume of
traffic/multi-site presences, but are exclusively 100% transit customers,
do not have any PNIs at major carrier hotels, and are not members of any
IX.
W
Hi Patrick,
On 08/18, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> > Of course! Including headers to show authenticity. I was very amused by the
> > explanation of the "chicken and egg" problem. Who's creating that? The
> > networks
> > who refuse to peer with non-peeringdb registered ASNs, or peeringdb who
> >
Sabri Berisha wrote on 19/08/2021 00:57:
- On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Rubens kuhlrube...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Currently RPKI can only validate origin, not paths. If/when a path
validation solution is available, then one easy way to know that
network A really means to peer with network B
On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 02:03, Randy Bush wrote:
> > The difference is, if you are able to use PeeringDB as a single
> > source of truth, it is a lot easier to grab the data you need.
>
> < pushing the analogy to the absurd >
>
> great idea! please tell me when i can use peeringdb as the single
>
> The difference is, if you are able to use PeeringDB as a single
> source of truth, it is a lot easier to grab the data you need.
< pushing the analogy to the absurd >
great idea! please tell me when i can use peeringdb as the single
source of truth for my bank balance? how about i can learn
> Currently RPKI can only validate origin, not paths.
not exactly you ar speaking of route origin validation
RPKI
The RPKI is an X.509 based hierarchy [RFC 6481] which is congruent
with the internet IP address allocation administration, the IANA,
RIRs, ISPs, ... It is just a da
When did PeeringDB turn into a routing (policy) registry?
You should use an IRRdb if you want to write RPSL.
* sa...@cluecentral.net (Sabri Berisha) [Thu 19 Aug 2021, 01:59 CEST]:
The difference is, if you are able to use PeeringDB as a single
source of truth, it is a lot easier to grab the dat
- On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
> Currently RPKI can only validate origin, not paths. If/when a path
> validation solution is available, then one easy way to know that
> network A really means to peer with network B is to publish a path
> validation tha
Currently RPKI can only validate origin, not paths. If/when a path
validation solution is available, then one easy way to know that
network A really means to peer with network B is to publish a path
validation that B can use and/or forward A's announcements.
Rubens
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 7:53 PM
* sa...@cluecentral.net (Sabri Berisha) [Thu 19 Aug 2021, 00:55 CEST]:
For example, if I were to register my peers (53356 and 136620) and AS5524 would
all of a sudden start to advertise my AS as behind it, you'd be able to flag
that.
I'm confused. When did PeeringDB turn into a routing (policy
- On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
Hi,
> Those networks would be ones that do not peer. Which seems pretty obvious to
> me
> - it is literally in the name.
I have an AS, I advertise IP space to the world. I want to be a Good Netizen and
register my BG
> Of course! Including headers to show authenticity. I was very amused by the
> explanation of the "chicken and egg" problem. Who's creating that? The
> networks
> who refuse to peer with non-peeringdb registered ASNs, or peeringdb who won't
> recognize ASNs that are not peering with anyone beca
- On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
Hi,
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Matthew Walster wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, 21:37 Sabri Berisha, wrote:
>> - On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Steve Lalonde st...@enta.net wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> > We always u
On Aug 18, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Matthew Walster wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, 21:37 Sabri Berisha, wrote:
> - On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Steve Lalonde st...@enta.net wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> > We always use PeeringDB data and refuse to peer with networks not in
>> > PeeingDB
>>
>> You are aware
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