RE: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-04 Thread Torres, Matt via NANOG
Thanks NANOG. For those interested, here is a summary list of due diligence tasks for purchasing IPv4 on the secondary market: 1. Check out the seller (Google search). What is their story? Generally avoid hosting companies because they may have more block/black list cleanup to do. 2.

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-04 Thread Marco Davids via NANOG
Op 04-04-19 om 01:14 schreef Mike Hammett: Do you have sources for the ~90% T-Mobile IPv6? Not arguing, but to use that as a source myself when spreading the IPv6 good word. https://www.worldipv6launch.org/apps/ipv6week/measurement/images/graphs/T-MobileUSA.png

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Jared Mauch" To: "Matt Torres" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 10:58:23 AM Subject: Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework > On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Torres, Matt via NANOG wrote: > > All, > Side stepping a migration to IPv6

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Martin Hannigan
gt; > > > *From:* NANOG *On Behalf Of *Torres, Matt via > NANOG > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:20 AM > *To:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework > > > > All, > > Side stepping a migration to IPv6 debate…. I’d li

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 8:20 AM Torres, Matt via NANOG wrote: > due diligence research on an IPv4 block [...] what results from those checks should cause us to walk away? Hi Matt, I think it also depends on your intended use. If you want a flawlessly clean block you can use for anything, you'll

RE: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Jeffrey Hathaway via NANOG
: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework All, Side stepping a migration to IPv6 debate I'd like to hear advise from the group about performing due diligence research on an IPv4 block before purchasing it on the secondary market (on behalf of an end-user company). My research has

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Nikolas Geyer
The issue isn’t with Spamhaus itself per se, more providers who implement automated edge filters based on those lists and then take a long time to get removed manually. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Eric Dugas mailto:edu...@unknowndevice.ca>> wrote: I cleaned two blocks

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Eric Dugas
I cleaned two blocks last year with Spamhaus and others. Took me less than two weeks and Spamhaus were the quickest of the bunch (we're talking about a full or two business days). PSN can be tricky, same for Netflix and whatnot but I always put these new blocks in "quarantine" for a couple of

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Nikolas Geyer
A big +1 to checking Spamhaus, specifically their DROP and EDROP lists. These two lists are what causes us most pain when acquiring IPv4 space as a lot of providers put auto blocking in place based on these two which can be difficult to get removed. I won’t even contemplate prefixes on either

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Apr 3, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > > On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 11:58:23 -0400, Jared Mauch said: > >> Mostly curious if you are doing IPv6 if you see that slowing your need for v4 >> or if they are growing at the same rate. > > And remember kids - the more you can push off

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 11:58:23 -0400, Jared Mauch said: > Mostly curious if you are doing IPv6 if you see that slowing your need for v4 > or if they are growing at the same rate. And remember kids - the more you can push off to native IPv6, the longer you can push off an upgrade to your CGNAT box.

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Torres, Matt via NANOG wrote: > > All, > Side stepping a migration to IPv6 debate…. I’d like to hear advise from the > group about performing due diligence research on an IPv4 block before > purchasing it on the secondary market (on behalf of an end-user

RE: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Sam Roche
-script/ We worked with the Brander Group as a broker. They were great and have since launched a portal/storefront I believe. Kind regards, Sam. From: NANOG On Behalf Of John Alcock Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:34 AM To: Torres, Matt Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Purchasing IPv4 space

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 15:20:17 -, "Torres, Matt via NANOG" said: > 3. Check SORBS blacklisting. It should not show up except maybe the DUHL > list(?). If it does, walk away. SORBS isn't the only place to check. As an example, if Spamhaus doesn't have nice things to say about the block,

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Matt Harris
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:34 AM John Alcock wrote: > Well, > > I did all three above and still had issues. I am still having issues. I > had to contact many people to get off of various blacklists, etc. These > are lists that are not publish and you will not know until you start using > the

Re: Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread John Alcock
Well, I did all three above and still had issues. I am still having issues. I had to contact many people to get off of various blacklists, etc. These are lists that are not publish and you will not know until you start using the space. Luckily, I have had great help from the list here in

Purchasing IPv4 space - due diligence homework

2019-04-03 Thread Torres, Matt via NANOG
All, Side stepping a migration to IPv6 debate I'd like to hear advise from the group about performing due diligence research on an IPv4 block before purchasing it on the secondary market (on behalf of an end-user company). My research has branched into two questions: a) What 'checks' should