> Anyone who is multihomed with cogent ipv6 in their mix should shutdown
> their IPv6 bgp session. Let’s see if we can make their graph freefall.
Ettore Bugatti, maker of the finest cars of his day, was once asked why his
cars had less than perfect brakes. He replied something like, "Any fool can
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016, Dave Bell wrote:
I don't get this. Google are basically a hosting provider. If I set up
my own website, I would expect to have to pay transit for it. If I ran a
hosting business I would expect to pay transit. Why are google
different?
If you had presence all across the w
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016, William Herrin wrote:
>> It's Cogent's fault because: double-billing. Google should not have to
>> pay Cogent for a service which you have already paid Cogent to provide
>> to you. Cogent's demand is unethical. They intention
On 10 March 2016 at 15:55, William Herrin wrote:
> It's Cogent's fault because: double-billing. Google should not have to
> pay Cogent for a service which you have already paid Cogent to provide
> to you. Cogent's demand is unethical. They intentionally fail to
> deliver on the basic service expec
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016, William Herrin wrote:
It's Cogent's fault because: double-billing. Google should not have to
pay Cogent for a service which you have already paid Cogent to provide
to you. Cogent's demand is unethical. They intentionally fail to
deliver on the basic service expectation you p
On 10/Mar/16 17:25, Jon Lewis wrote:
> My guess is that GOOG is playing peering chicken with Cogent on "the
> IPv6 Internet" because doing so is low impact. Doing this with v4
> routing would be far more painful to both GOOG and single-homed Cogent
> customers (probably make the news and make o
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Anyone that complains about double billing doesn't apparently know how the
> Internet works and should relegate themselves to writing articles for
> GigaOm.
>
Mike,
I picture you saying that with a Godfather voice and going on to talk about
Am 10.03.2016 um 22:25 schrieb Damien Burke :
> Anyone who is multihomed with cogent ipv6 in their mix should shutdown their
> IPv6 bgp session. Let’s see if we can make their graph freefall.
Alternative:
set community [do not announce to Cogent]
*SCNR*
Behalf Of William Herrin
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:56 AM
To: Dennis Burgess
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Subject: Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dennis Burgess
mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
> Not wishing to get
dwest-ix.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:55:30 AM
Subject: Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Denni
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dennis Burgess
wrote:
> Not wishing to get into a pissing war with who is right or wrong, but it
> sounds like
> google already pays or has an agreement with cogent for v4, as that's
> unaffected,
> cogent says google is simply not advertising v6 prefixes to the
> Cc: Dennis Burgess ; North American Network
> Operators' Group
> Subject: Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
>
> In other words, GOOG is playing peering chicken with Cogent for IPv6. I'm
> not surprised. I suggested it during talks with GOOG roughly 10 years
> ag
, cogent says google is simply not advertising v6 prefixes to them,
so, how is that cogent's fault?
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From: Jon Lewis [mailto:jle...@lewis.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 11:26 AM
To: Jürgen Jaritsch
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Subject: Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
In other words, GOOG is playing peering chicken with Cogent for IPv6. I&#
In other words, GOOG is playing peering chicken with Cogent for IPv6. I'm
not surprised. I suggested it during talks with GOOG roughly 10 years
ago...not saying I had any influence...I'm pretty sure I did not. :)
GOOG wants Cogent to peer. Cogent wants GOOG to pay for transit (from
them or
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