RE: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-15 Thread Frank Bulk
NOG list Subject: RE: Approach to allocating netblocks --On onsdag, onsdag 14 jan 2009 10.30.18 -0600 Frank Bulk wrote: > But perhaps the BCP is to make the customer renumber, in which case I'm > making things more complicated than they need to be. Most customers with PA space (which is what

Re: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-15 Thread Måns Nilsson
--On torsdag, torsdag 15 jan 2009 15.11.48 -0500 William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Måns Nilsson > wrote: >> from operational standpoint renumbering is not that bad. > > Måns, > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work-01.t > xt provides 24 p

Re: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-15 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > For the first time we have our own ARIN-assigned netblocks that we can now > split out and divide to our customers. > > What's the best approach to handing out /30's, /29's, etc. that is efficient > as possible but allows for customers to expan

RE: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-15 Thread Måns Nilsson
--On onsdag, onsdag 14 jan 2009 10.30.18 -0600 Frank Bulk wrote: > But perhaps the BCP is to make the customer renumber, in which case I'm > making things more complicated than they need to be. Most customers with PA space (which is what you are giving them) are quite used to renumbering. If not

Re: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-14 Thread jkinz
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:34:29AM -0600, Jason Biel wrote: > Customer should have the forethought to request the right amount of space to > include for growth. hmm, as a vict^H^H^H^H former associate of a few startups I can assure you the customer will almost never know how much space they need f

Re: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-14 Thread Aidan Whyte
ry 14, 2009 10:35 AM > To: frnk...@iname.com > Subject: Re: Approach to allocating netblocks > > Perhaps I'm missing something, but I've never seen much of a problem > with non-contiguous blocks for customer address space expansion..

Re: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Grundemann
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:05, Frank Bulk wrote: > For the first time we have our own ARIN-assigned netblocks that we can now > split out and divide to our customers. > > What's the best approach to handing out /30's, /29's, etc. that is efficient > as possible but allows for customers to expand t

Re: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-14 Thread Jason Biel
> > But perhaps the BCP is to make the customer renumber, in which case I'm > making things more complicated than they need to be. > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Israel [mailto:da...@otd.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:17 AM > To

RE: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-14 Thread Frank Bulk
ore complicated than they need to be. Frank -Original Message- From: Dave Israel [mailto:da...@otd.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:17 AM To: frnk...@iname.com Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Approach to allocating netblocks If most of your allocations are small, and you don&#x

Re: Approach to allocating netblocks

2009-01-14 Thread Dave Israel
If most of your allocations are small, and you don't plan on growing them very often, you'll probably do better with starting at the ends and working your way inward.For example,. for /30s, allocate 0/30, then 4/30, 248/30, and 252/30 before moving in to 8/30, 12/30, 240/30, and 244/30. That wa