Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-09 Thread Scott Helms
Colton, Arris has plans to release a remote PHY+MAC box but I don't think they have released anything but their plans. John Chapman said last year at SCTE that Cisco was going down the remote PHY only path because they think that will be the most cost effective way for large MSOs to deploy MHAv2.

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-09 Thread Colton Conor
Scott, I was able to find the Huawie solution: http://www.huawei.com/ucmf/groups/public/documents/webasset/hw_415387.pdf Looks like its 32x4 capable today, and software upgradeable to DOCSIS 3.1 which is nice. Appears to also have a 10G uplink port on it. Seems like the best solution tech spec wis

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-09 Thread Scott Helms
Colton, Huawai has one, but I can't find the product page on their site off hand. Here's one from Sumavision: http://en.sumavision.com/product.asp?pageID=28&ID=712 Harmonic's small form factor CMTS is remote PHY+MAC (at least the strand mounted version is) but keep in mind that they've been prim

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2016-02-09 Thread Colton Conor
Yes, I looked at CASA, but their small unit is the C1G, which is an 8x8 max DOCSIS 3.0 unit. Plus they want a high price point, almost quadruple what a 16X4 Pico Digital or Harmonic's unit cost. Not seeing the value or specs there to justify it. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Steven Shalita wrot

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2016-02-09 Thread Colton Conor
Scott, Have any idea which exact vendors and model numbers are within this price range? So far I have just found mini CMTS systems like the Pico and Harmonic's. Both of these are a 16x4 configuration, but no mention of remote MAC+PHY nor DOSIS 3.1. Then their is Huawei's solution, but still I thin

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2016-02-05 Thread Colton Conor
Richard, Thanks for the information on these. Do you mind me asking what is a ballpark for these devices? From what I have read/heard, the Huawei D-CMTS was a 16x4 unit software upgradeable to 32x4 I thought. Is the one you have software upgradeable to 32x4? Are these DOCSIS 3.1 capable. Better y

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-04 Thread Richard Holbo
I'm in the middle of pulling some Cisco 7246VXR-UBR's (antiques) and replacing them with the Huawei D-CMTS devices. From what I understand of your needs, the Huawei devices will do what you are looking for. We are running 8x4, but can upgrade the licenses to 24x4 if we need the bandwidth, althoug

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-03 Thread Colton Conor
ity along the Arris line, skip the C4 and go straight to > the E6000. > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Corbe > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:18 AM > To: Colton Conor > Cc: NANOG > Subject

RE: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread frnkblk
If you need density along the Arris line, skip the C4 and go straight to the E6000. Frank -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Corbe Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:18 AM To: Colton Conor Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Cable Operator List Hey

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread jamie rishaw
he CMTS. > > > > > > Graham Johnston > > > Network Planner > > > Westman Communications Group > > > 204.717.2829 > > > johnst...@westmancom.com > > > think green; don't print this email. > > > > > > > > >

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2016-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
Colton, D3.1 gear is just coming online right now. If you're going to go with the smaller PHY+MAC approach I'd just make sure the company has plans to update their boxes to 3.1 in a decent (your judgement) amount of time. Don't expect any 3.0 box to be software upgradeable to 3.1, the hardware i

RE: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Graham Johnston
think green; don't print this email. From: Colton Conor [mailto:colton.co...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:44 AM To: Graham Johnston Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Cable Operator List Graham, What is DSG? Yes, I am really looking for a CMTS to perform layer 2 just as our DSLAMs and GP

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2016-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
Is a remote MAC+PHY the same thing as a Distributed Converged Cable Access Platform (D-CCAP) solution like Huawei is pushing? Is DOCSIS 3.1 even out, or am I looking for something that does not exist yet? Are these remote MAC+PHY devices in the under 10K price range that these smaller all in one C

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > Yes, we are in the USA. So based on everyones recommendations, I am going > to stay far away from EURODOCSIS. I was told be a vendor that Arris and > other USA FCC certified cable modems could easily be flashed to EURODOCIS > mode, so I did no

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
Yes, we are in the USA. So based on everyones recommendations, I am going to stay far away from EURODOCSIS. I was told be a vendor that Arris and other USA FCC certified cable modems could easily be flashed to EURODOCIS mode, so I did not think the CPE side was that big of a deal (is that even true

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2016-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
Nick, Absolutely, if your plant is in Europe or one of the other areas (lots of Africa and the middle East is like that) that adopted EuroDOCSIS I'd agree wholeheartedly. I didn't see Colton say where they're located, but all North America is the US flavor so that's what I assume on NANOG. That

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2016-02-02 Thread Nick Hilliard
Scott Helms wrote: > That very small upside for an extreme downside.Trying to hire someone > to work on your system with Euro channelization, not to mention buying > amplifiers and passives is a huge PITA. ... if your plant is in the US. > I have customers in Europe who > decided to do US DOCSIS

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 02 Feb 2016 14:26:14 +, Nick Hilliard said: > Jared Mauch wrote: > > I can create a catv or similar list easily. good name > > suggestions welcome. > > "There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation > and naming things". They're only hard because all *othe

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Alex Brooks
Hi, On 2 February 2016 at 15:47, Colton Conor wrote: > I would honestly perfer something that was hardened for outdoor use. Think > garden style apartments. What is the best for something like that? It depends where you are going to be deploying these things, northern New York state? Arizona

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2016-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
Nick, That very small upside for an extreme downside. Trying to hire someone to work on your system with Euro channelization, not to mention buying amplifiers and passives is a huge PITA. I have customers in Europe who decided to do US DOCSIS and they universally wish they had used the local "fl

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Edwin Mallette
on, as well as others. Many of the C-DOCSIS CMTSs seem either >> only >> > support, or are more often meant to support layer 2 operations where >>the >> > routing happens upstream from the CMTS. >> > >> > Graham Johnston >> > Network Planner &

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Nick Hilliard
Scott Helms wrote: > My 2 cents, buy CMTS/CCAP gear that's upgradeable to D3.1, ie CBR8, E6000, > or the big Casa unit, for the time being shoot for 24 channel downstream > bonding groups (24 * ~37mbps - overhead) which yields about 740 mbps > usable. the good thing about eurodocsis is that it giv

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Daniel Corbe
In-line below. -Daniel > On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > > Daniel, > > Thanks for the wealth of information. What kind of speeds are you offering? > How many customers are you putting on one of these boxes? What modems are you > using? We’re using Arris modems because we

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2016-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
> > johnst...@westmancom.com > > think green; don't print this email. > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor > > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:00 AM > > To: Danie

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
The biggest reason to not do EuroDOCSIS is logistics and dealing with various TAC organizations versus a pretty small increase in per channel performance (but not per hertz). I'd pretty strongly recommend against it, just because you're going to run into issues ranging from buying modems, to deali

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2016-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
Daniel, Thanks for the wealth of information. What kind of speeds are you offering? How many customers are you putting on one of these boxes? What modems are you using? I would honestly perfer something that was hardened for outdoor use. Think garden style apartments. What is the best for somethi

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
; Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:00 AM > To: Daniel Corbe > Cc: NANOG > Subject: Re: Cable Operator List > > Well, maybe NANOG's not a bad place for this post then! I would like to > know more about the data-only side of CMTS systems, and who the main > vendors are. &g

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 02:26:14PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Jared Mauch wrote: > > I can create a catv or similar list easily. good name > > suggestions welcome. > > "There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation > and naming things". https://xkcd.com/910/ > do

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Nick Hilliard
Jared Mauch wrote: > I can create a catv or similar list easily. good name > suggestions welcome. "There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things". docsis-nsp? Nick

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Daniel Corbe
Hey Colton, We’re using small 16 channel CMTS systems for residential MDUs and colocating them directly on premise inside of wiring closets and then connecting them by metro ethernet. We’ve had great successes so far with this model. There’s lots of CMTS vendors. There’s tons of used Motorol

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2016-02-02 Thread Graham Johnston
717.2829 johnst...@westmancom.com think green; don't print this email. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:00 AM To: Daniel Corbe Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Cable Operator List Well, maybe NANOG's not a bad

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2016-02-02 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 08:53:36AM -0500, Benjamin Hatton wrote: > The Cable TV List (http://cabletvlist.com/) doesn't get much traffic, but > it does have some quality people on it that can answer most CATV > questions. It is heavily weighted on the TV side, so most things are > related to transp

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2016-02-02 Thread Graham Johnston
Those that are SCTE members have access to the SCTE mailing list. Like the comments about the CableTV list, it is often focused on plant/transport/RF more than Docsis but there are good DOCSIS knowledgeable people on the list too that answer questions. Graham Johnston Network Planner Westman C

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2016-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
Well, maybe NANOG's not a bad place for this post then! I would like to know more about the data-only side of CMTS systems, and who the main vendors are. We have MDU properties where there is either old inside CAT3 phone wire, or coaxial cable. We have looked and are very familiar with the multipl

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2016-02-02 Thread Art Plato
day, February 2, 2016 8:53:36 AM Subject: Re: Cable Operator List The Cable TV List (http://cabletvlist.com/) doesn't get much traffic, but it does have some quality people on it that can answer most CATV questions. It is heavily weighted on the TV side, so most things are related to trans

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2016-02-02 Thread Benjamin Hatton
The Cable TV List (http://cabletvlist.com/) doesn't get much traffic, but it does have some quality people on it that can answer most CATV questions. It is heavily weighted on the TV side, so most things are related to transport gear, IRDs, and distribution equipment. I am unaware of any DOCSIS s

Re: Cable Operator List

2016-02-02 Thread Daniel Corbe
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > > Are there any mailing lists out there dedicated for cable/MSO type > operators? > I'm curious about this too. I’m not a cable operator (in that I haven’t successfully registered for a cable franchise yet) but I do operate a docsis network